Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Andrew Briscoe on March 15, 2012, 05:15:22 pm
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I see we now have a forsale section for each board, plus the origonal one.
The way i have read it the 3 new sections you will have to pay to list an item,
but no mention of a charge in the usual for sale section.
Is this correct. :(
Luckily most of us have added each other on facebook, and there are also other forums where it is
free, will this efect cleanitup, i have noticed it is much quieter of late, and busier on facebook,
or is it just because Shaun has become a Moderator ;) ;D
Andrew.
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The forum has a lot of traffic and from this sells advertising
Charging us for selling stuff isn't a great idea in my opinion
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Free for 3 months then a "small" charge.
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=149387.0
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Well that's gonna die on its @rse, nobody in their right mind is going to pay to put a post on a forum! Greedy money grabbing t***s, havent thought this one through!!!!
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Well that's gonna die on its @rse, nobody in their right mind is going to pay to put a post on a forum! Greedy money grabbing t***s, havent thought this one through!!!!
Sit on the fence why don't ya! ;D
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Sit on the fence why don't ya! ;D
Straight to the point as ever ;D
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perhaps they will invest in equipment to make this forum faster?
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Die on its arse or not you would be advertising to an audience who would/should be interested in what you are selling and have some knowledge of the industry........or you could put it on ebay have some hopefuls bid on it, sale falls through, do it all again...... and in the end pay your ebay fees.
It makes me laugh that some people will throw their weight around and make other forum members look small and cheap for looking for a cheap vac/ pump/ anything to save a few bob but when someone mentions charges to sell a bit of kit they start to throw their toys around and are full of negativity!!!!!!!!
I doubt the forum runs for free by itself Jim, as i am sure you dont run your business that way.
Tony
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Yer Jim
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Yer Jim
Constructive input as usual Paul
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Only time will tell if it works our not but we don't pay to post on the Carpet Cleaning section that's free, it was once courted that members would pay for a more selective forum and that was from members not admin.
Shaun
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yer Paul!!! ;D
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yer Paul!!! ;D
Billy constructive input as usual
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Yarp!!!!!!!!!!!
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I know what a helmet ;D
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I know what a helmet ;D
Yes you are
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Only time will tell if it works our not but we don't pay to post on the Carpet Cleaning section that's free, it was once courted that members would pay for a more selective forum and that was from members not admin.
Shaun
So are you saying Shaun that we advertise stuff on this section so it dosnt incur a charge or would it be moved ?
Could we mention on here that we are thinking about selling an item, saving us a few bob,
or would that not be allowed either ?
D
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Only time will tell if it works our not but we don't pay to post on the Carpet Cleaning section that's free, it was once courted that members would pay for a more selective forum and that was from members not admin.
Shaun
So are you saying Shaun that we advertise stuff on this section so it dosnt incur a charge or would it be moved ?
Could we mention on here that we are thinking about selling an item, saving us a few bob,
or would that not be allowed either ?
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You Cumbrian's are as tight as the Cornish...... ;D
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
;D ;D ;D
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
Its a good job you didnt, you mised your phone number out !!
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;D
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
Let's say, hypthetically that this was the case - what would you ask for it?
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It'd only get deleted and then a deleted account, is it worth it?
I have bought and sold loads on here and its usually the first section I go to but if the forum needs money to run then an income has to be made.
Shaun
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
Let's say, hypthetically that this was the case - what would you ask for it?
And what would your phone number be ;D
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
Let's say, hypthetically that this was the case - what would you ask for it?
It's not really for sale. ;D
Forums do seem to be a good business model don't they. I think it's only recently though someone has started thinking seriously about their pension plan. But you don't want to kill the golden goose, it's a fine line to tread
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I was going to advertise my 2 year old 400psi Ninja including hoses, like new condition at a very reasonable price, first to see will buy, but I don't think I'll bother now.
Let's say, hypthetically that this was the case - what would you ask for it?
And what would your phone number be ;D
I'm X directory. ;D
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What sort of price are they thinking Shaun ( i think i'm half Yorkshire) ;)
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disgusted at the pack mentality against tony at the start of this .. but he is right.. i see the braggers on here every day who claim to charge this and that and they got the best equipment ever but when it comes to selling anything for say £400 the same people are crying because they cot to pay a fee .. i smell something out a cow's bum with a lot of folks on here
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personally i don't think it will work, purely because of wynnes example.... its just too easy to abuse.
if the admin want to make money offer to make a subscription membership that allows personel links to be' follow' instead of 'no follow'
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I don't know how much you could contact admin.
Shau
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I agree it will be difficult to manage, maybe folk peed off cause its always been free,
if they origonally knew it would end up with 23.5k members, they could of charged a yearly subscription and ran the forum from a beach in the Bahamas.
I have met folk when on courses who have never posted on here, yet look into the forsale section and buy off it, and never give any info back to the forum.
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It'd only get deleted and then a deleted account, is it worth it?
So if you put a link to an outside website saying you are sellinging x,y,z (fleabay for example) would that be deleted?
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Die on its arse or not you would be advertising to an audience who would/should be interested in what you are selling and have some knowledge of the industry........or you could put it on ebay have some hopefuls bid on it, sale falls through, do it all again...... and in the end pay your ebay fees.
It makes me laugh that some people will throw their weight around and make other forum members look small and cheap for looking for a cheap vac/ pump/ anything to save a few bob but when someone mentions charges to sell a bit of kit they start to throw their toys around and are full of negativity!!!!!!!!
I doubt the forum runs for free by itself Jim, as i am sure you dont run your business that way.
Tony
Tony, not sure if you're aware but this isn't the only cleaning forum!! I certainly don't use all of them out there but have 7 in my favourites! No other forums charge their users to advertise their own second hand kit for sale, and I don't see that changing in the foreseeable future.
Charging for posts in the for sale section is stupid and ill-thought out. It just won't attract any significant business because people can get the same thing for free elsewhere (of course there will be some paid-for posts, by people who haven't got a clue and don't know any better. Really ethical that, bordering on a scam if you ask me.)
Unless this is an early April fools joke? ;)
Let's keep dishing out the business lessons then.... :)
Of course this forum doesn't run for free, but it doesn't exactly cost an arm and a leg to register a domain name and pay for server space. I'm not well up on hosting charges etc, maybe someone with some better knowledge on that could fill in the blanks, but this forum would need X amount of disk space and Y amount of bandwidth.... even if it cost £100 a month that's diddly squat.
You know those adverts you see at the top and bottom? Uhmmmmm well they probably cover the server costs plus a hefty amount more.... so where is the money going to from the good honest users who have to pay just for selling a wand for £50 or something? It's a scandal!
If the owner of this forum had the slightest bit of sense he'd integrate it more into his business and write off the cost against the increased revenue gained... now where have I seen that business model before???? ;D ;)
Sorry for sitting on the fence earlier Colin, hopefully you can see which side I'm on now? :D
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Maybe we ought to get paid for the content we produce and the moderators should be paid for spending time managing it. ;)
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Like your thinking there Wynne. From the length of some of my posts I'd be the highest earner on here by a mile ;D ;D
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Wynne I like it ;D
Shaun
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Like your thinking there Wynne. From the length of some of my posts I'd be the highest earner on here by a mile ;D ;D
Thought that was the case anyway, Jim?
:P
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If you use Ebay you pay a listing fee and a sales fee.
For years people have been able to plug their ebay auction on here and end up getting a much higher price.
Looks like those days have gone.
Like Mike says I can see problems glad Shaun's got my job ;D ;D
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I'm poorer than Shaun!!!
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No one is poorer than me!
Shaun the impecunious
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No one is poorer than me!
Shaun the impecunious
You can afford a dictionary though, eh?
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The other week there was a thread about the Cimex. One of the the first things I did was go an have a look on ebay to see what was on offer.
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Thanks for the business lesson Jim.
I still dont think it's such an outrageous idea to be asked for a couple of quid to advertise to a captive audience but what do I know I am just a small time carpet cleaner with no business sense.
Tony
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Tony, the point is that forums are the kind of things that are offered as a FREE to use service for certain communities... if the owner wishes to recoup revenue for their running they should do it in ways other than charging their users to use it!
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disgusted at the pack mentality against tony at the start of this .. but he is right.. i see the braggers on here every day who claim to charge this and that and they got the best equipment ever but when it comes to selling anything for say £400 the same people are crying because they cot to pay a fee .. i smell something out a cow's bum with a lot of folks on here
Missed your reply dan, thanks for the support, it's their attitude that stops other new members contributing for fear of being shot down in flames which is not good but the mods let the behaviour go, not that I need anyone to defend me but apart from Jim who is intelligent and does make worthwhile posts the others are just part of "the pack" like bullies. Nothing worthwhile to say but just put others down but if that's how they get off good luck to them.
Tony
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wether charging is right or wrong i think it will be detrimental to ciu. less people will put goods up for sale because of the fee which will mean less people coming on here for a nosey, which in turn will put off advertisers which i guess is a good revenue. forums seem to forget there main oposition is facebook and twitter, few guys on here ask why we want carpet cleaners as friends on our facebook, well thats my answer. i get just as good info off facebook as i do off here and throwing even the smallest spanner in the works will only speed up the inevitable, the forums demise.
my advice, charge those that make money off us, don't charge those that make this forum what it is. after all, "we" are your bread and butter.
not saying i'm right, but its food for thought.
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Tony, the point is that forums are the kind of things that are offered as a FREE to use service for certain communities... if the owner wishes to recoup revenue for their running they should do it in ways other than charging their users to use it!
Not defering from my previous comments but yes Jim I see your point and to a certain extent agree, just thought that you took a particularly passionate point of view on it, just wanted to bring a different point of view, devils advocate if you like.
Tony
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CIU certainly missed a trick there Derek. Harvesting all those contacts for your FB page would have been worth a bob or two to them. ;D
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CIU certainly missed a trick there Derek. Harvesting all those contacts for your FB page would have been worth a bob or two to them. ;D
Oh well done :o Nothing like giving them even more money raising ideas 8)
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Pay-To-Post there's another idea for them. ;D
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Pay-To-Post there's another idea for them. ;D
Your post are almost as constructive as Paul moss.
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Tony I don't know you but you do seem to be a 'Mr Angry' where the whole world has to agree with you or you throw your toys out the pram. I'm sure in real life you are not like this and is just the impression I get from your posts.
Hope you find this constructive.
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Tony to say that your an absolute helmet is about as constructive as i could be to you ::)
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Tony I don't know you but you do seem to be a 'Mr Angry' where the whole world has to agree with you or you throw your toys out the pram. I'm sure in real life you are not like this and is just the impression I get from your posts.
Hope you find this constructive.
Wynne I don't know about you but you appear to me to be one of the pack (a bully) I am sure your not like that once you can't hide behind your keyboard.
Tony
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Tony to say that your an absolute helmet is about as constructive as i could be to you ::)
And the pack leader comes out to play!
I cannot dignify your patheticness Paul better we don't respond to each other in the future.
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Tony, what on earth are you on about (a bully)? My posts have been suggesting paying to sell items on the forum has limited scope and to have a light hearted approach to the dilemma.
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Tony, we seem to disagree on some things but as you say I do voice my opinions passionately, just my way :) I know what you mean, it may well be only a couple of quid or whatever but it's the principle of the thing, that's what gets my goat.
As for Paul Moss, you have to learn to take him with a pinch shovel full of salt... he is a naughty scamp and likes to push peoples' buttons... I used to bite, and he and the gang used to get a good rise out of me... but you learn to just accept it's just screwing around and it's very easy to take the mickey from behind a computer keyboard ;)
No matter what, you can always console yourself with the fact that he's a ginger ;D ;D
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Now you told me he is a ginger I can't fight with him no more, my mum told me not to pick on........... Well anyway I take it all back sorry Paul no more fighting, make up make up never never break up........
Tony
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Tony
What happened with TACCA did you join in the end?
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Tony
What happened with TACCA did you join in the end?
Yes I did, why?
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Well at the next meeting just look for the ginger one with sequins. ;D
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Well at the next meeting just look for the ginger one with sequins. ;D
So I need to bring my handbag for the fight off!
Tony
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Banter sometimes doesn't translate on forums, you two will get on just fine.
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Maybe start a new poll on this one.
Good idea or not.
I'd say not as most of us use other forums and would simply post in their for sale sections. This could ultimately lead to reduced traffic on this site over time and thus have a negative effect.
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Well at the next meeting just look for the ginger one with sequins. ;D
So I need to bring my handbag for the fight off!
Tony
No Tony, you will just need to bring some body up with you.
As they will need to drive your van back ;D
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Well at the next meeting just look for the ginger one with sequins. ;D
So I need to bring my handbag for the fight off!
Tony
No Tony, you will just need to bring some body up with you.
As they will need to drive your van back ;D
They do say that gingers have got a temper..
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Everyone gets the P taken out of them on here Jim has had the real brunt of the jokes atm Billy's little blower gets it, I used to ge teased about being thrifty with my hard earned but now I'm a moderator it's all stopped ;D Dennis gets it with his 6 fingers and Goofy teeth but that's Norfolk for you!
Keeping things as a joke is good but personal threats well we can't have that can we?
Sir Shaun the velorous
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I find it really annoying that they have split the for sale section into seperate parts. I used to like browsing through the forsale section to see what "everybody" had for sale now you have to look in loads of sections.
Put it all back in one place please.
Don't care if they charge to post on it, if they do, i just won't post there and post it somewhere else where it is free like most will
Cheers Goron
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Im only joshin ;D
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Shaun isn't thrifty, Scots are thrifty, as a fellow Yorkshire man I can confirm the definition of a Yorkshire man is a Scot with the generosity squeezed out of him :D
Al.
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Shaun is as tight as they come night out in Newcastle I'm sure he only got the round in once ;)
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That must have been 8 years ago are you still holding a grudge? anyway I didn't get the round in the end :o
Shaun
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Dennis gets it with his 6 fingers and Goofy teeth but that's Norfolk for you!
Sir Shaun the velorous
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Nothing wrong with 6 fingers, I can count quicker. ;D
Ps do you mean valorous? :D
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One round in eight years eventually, well done Shaun, proud of you.
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One round in eight years eventually, well done Shaun, proud of you.
And that was only because they held him upside down to empty his pockets (after cutting the padlocks first) ;D
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You've seen Houdini escape well that was me and my wallet intact, I wouldn't know how to open it anyway!
Shaun
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Oi, Leave my little blower alone!!!!!
Best things come in small packages!!!!
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Any way im actually strawberry blonde :-*
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Any way im actually strawberry blonde :-*
Yeah right, and i've got the biggest blower in the uk!!!!!
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No Bill that bird actually said that you looked like the biggest bloater in the UK ;D
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I can't wait to get round a pub table with you lot ;D
then under it :-\
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I can't wait to get round a pub table with you lot ;D
then under it :-\
Won't take long!!!!!!!!
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I need someone to spike my pints with lemonade ;)
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Just add some SPM then you wouldn't have to spend as much on teeth whitening products. 8) ;D
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;D
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One round in eight years eventually, well done Shaun, proud of you.
And that was only because they held him upside down to empty his pockets (after cutting the padlocks first) ;D
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now the market place is empty and the used section has posts in it, I'm confused.