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Title: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Andy L.W.C.S. on February 01, 2012, 08:28:47 pm
has anyone seen or heard about this for van systems, using a thermostat connected to your pump and when it gets below set temp pump kicks in circulating water thus stops it freezing in hose/pump n tank (pump on lowest setting???
any ideas  :P Cheers
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Andy L.W.C.S. on February 01, 2012, 10:03:52 pm
come on pips, someone must be able to help on this matter!!!  ???
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Jista on February 01, 2012, 10:13:48 pm
Nah m8 sorry m8n don't fink that will work TBH
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Jista on February 01, 2012, 10:15:29 pm
Water can freeze on the move
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: dave.e on February 01, 2012, 10:43:49 pm
Water can freeze on the move


water can freeze when it's running very slowly but not at a constant speed and if so it would have to be around -20
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: windiewasher on February 01, 2012, 10:46:14 pm
put fish in your tank overnight,works perfect fella
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: William McCafferty on February 01, 2012, 10:47:17 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250953679066?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

just set this up on your system to come on every hour for 15 minutes.
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Nathanael Jones on February 01, 2012, 10:48:54 pm
http://www.indiegogo.com/Thermoshine-advanced-WFP-controller?a=215355

 :)
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: dazmond on February 02, 2012, 12:30:12 am
oil filled radiator does the job.around £40 for a half decent one.money well spent IMO.costs me around £1-50 a night in electric to wake up to a frost free van on cold mornings.


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 02, 2012, 07:17:32 am
nat jones as designed a flow controller which does this and you should be able to buy soon. ;)
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Andy L.W.C.S. on February 02, 2012, 07:35:29 am
docwindows, gold fish or ??? Cheers Lol
pure hydro, that looks like it might be the thing to use  :D
dazmond, cant 1 of me vans next to Hse to run power cable  :(
cheers pips, got something to get on wiv now
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Nathanael Jones on February 02, 2012, 08:16:07 am
nat jones as designed a flow controller which does this and you should be able to buy soon. ;)

You can pre-order already from the link above (more pics coming soon). Delivery for the first batch will start mid march.  ;D ;D

Only 50 units will be available at that special price though,...  ;)
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Ian Sheppard on February 02, 2012, 09:49:46 am
Also worth having a look at a Frost stat controller which will run with a diesel or calor gas heater.
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: windiewasher on February 02, 2012, 10:57:05 am
docwindows, gold fish or ??? Cheers Lol
pure hydro, that looks like it might be the thing to use  :D
dazmond, cant 1 of me vans next to Hse to run power cable  :(
cheers pips, got something to get on wiv now
yeah goldfish they say if its upto 450 litres you just need 10!
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: William McCafferty on February 02, 2012, 11:01:23 am
nat jones as designed a flow controller which does this and you should be able to buy soon. ;)

You can pre-order already from the link above (more pics coming soon). Delivery for the first batch will start mid march.  ;D ;D

Only 50 units will be available at that special price though,...  ;)

by then we will be in the middle of a heatwave compared to what its like today ;D
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Nathanael Jones on February 02, 2012, 04:58:58 pm
True,.. but you'll be prepared for next year, & you get it at a never to be repeated price.  ;)

Plus there's the remote control,...  ;D ;D
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Nathanael Jones on February 03, 2012, 10:44:31 am
Video coming soon,.. here's a pic tho (The label is only temp,.. the proper high quality one should arrive in the post Monday):

(http://d2oadd98wnjs7n.cloudfront.net/medias/164602/pictures/full/20120203022835-IMAG0425.jpg?1328264967)

Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: [GQC] Tim on February 03, 2012, 10:55:20 am
I think that's a great advancement, looks fantastic, but is it really necessary? If you can't get a lead out to your van, I guess so, but a thermostat fan heater is easier, cheaper to run and does a better job I would imagine as it circulates the air. Have had the same fan heater in the van for the last 3 winters, and it's always frost free.
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: LBWCS on February 03, 2012, 06:33:08 pm
I like this idea.my concern is this-my back door has to be open for fume release as I have a fogwash. This would mean I have to leave the door open letting cold in, and obviously security issues. Drilling a hole in the roof isn't an option for me
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Nathanael Jones on February 03, 2012, 07:48:57 pm
A roof vent would be essential if you wanted to run the system with all doors closed,.. and to be honest I'd never recommend running a DIY hot system unattended unless you're 110% sure its been properly & competently installed.

Roof vents are cheap & easy to fit though,.. although I did cringe a little when I started cutting the hole in my van roof,...
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Frankybadboy on February 03, 2012, 08:02:43 pm
looks good matt.





would you like me to test one out. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: William McCafferty on February 04, 2012, 11:43:47 am
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250953679066?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

just set this up on your system to come on every hour for 15 minutes.

I set this up and it does not work ???  I think it might have something to do with the amps the pumps draws, this timer needs 30amps while my pumps only goes upto 8amps.

I have also tried the socket timer that you use in the house, but the voltage is not enough to send the timer around.

anyone know one which does work?
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Nathanael Jones on February 04, 2012, 12:39:50 pm
That ebay one should work,.. maybe you got a faulty one?
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: William McCafferty on February 04, 2012, 12:46:58 pm
i wired it up correctly, even the led light came on, but the pump would not work, it did my head in :o
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: Roy Harding on February 04, 2012, 12:59:44 pm
If I was going down this route, I would use one of these http://www.garden4less.co.uk/hozelock_water_timer.asp

when the timer opens the valve the fogwash would fire and heat the water, I would have the hot going back to the pump di and back to heater. And have it do so every couple of hours for 5mins.


Roy
Title: Re: circulating water at night in van
Post by: William McCafferty on February 04, 2012, 04:17:55 pm
If I was going down this route, I would use one of these http://www.garden4less.co.uk/hozelock_water_timer.asp

when the timer opens the valve the fogwash would fire and heat the water, I would have the hot going back to the pump di and back to heater. And have it do so every couple of hours for 5mins.


Roy

thanks for that roy.

Matt on other forum (cleaning) suggested this one

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WATER-TIMER-GARDEN-IRRIGATION-fits-HOZELOCK-ELECTRONIC-/370518920426?pt=UK_Home_Garden_GardenEquipment_HandTools_SM&hash=item5644a60cea