Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richywilts on January 20, 2012, 03:41:55 pm
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Does anyone else suffer from being self employed that your wife or partners seem to think u can drop everything coz ur the boss, it's constantly every week some fin new for me last year our daughter wouldn't sleep well thru nite so my girlfriend was up most nite ringing next day saying I'm tired ya going to have to come home, then it's daisys being a nightmare doing me head in ya gna av to come home, she always find something to moan about, I need to go the tip coz wheelie bins full she wants me to do it when I'm working, I was meant to go last Saturday she slept in till 2 in the afternoon
Stresses me out !!!!!!!!!!
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i would tell her 2 words. The second one is OFF!!
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I do Steve but then I cum back home to me stuff packed in bin bags!!!
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show her who the boss is,if it works for god sake let me know ;D ;D
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the way they look at it our hours are flexible dont understand we have to grab most days as others can be wash outs
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I'm suffering with both cleaners being ill this week, had crap week with weather n one cleaner scaring us thinking he was having heart attack getting rushed to a n e for it to be a really bad lung infection
So I was on me own n had 4 jobs pencilled in for internals or first cleans that I cudnt let down not everyday work n she was casing me now not speaking to me thinking I'm the one whose out of order
She doesn't think logically
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Dump ;D
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its not just me then...
night mare i share your pain rich
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maybe time for a new missus :o,tell her if you have to come home look after kid or do something else she will av go out earn the money then,going av put your foot down but this will surely bring more arguments so brace yourself
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Dump ;D
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Dump ;D
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show her who the boss is,if it works for god sake let me know ;D ;D
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under her thumb rich ;D ;D ;D
remind chris is bill needs paying ;)
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Dump ;D
and replace with 2 more ;D
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Dump ;D
and replace with 2 more ;D
quote of the day ;D
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Dump ;D
and replace with 2 more ;D
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Women..cant live with em , cant live with em!
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I love my mobile phone...i can put it in silent mode & even switch it off ;)
i think she's got you sussed,with the threat of being binbagged...have you ever called her bluff?
dump & relace with two...love it ;D
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Women..cant live with em , cant live with em!
youve met my ex then :D
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she sounds depressed richy, but she probably thinks he has all them staff they can do it
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cant kill em
n bury under the patio ;D
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all hard workers on our relationships here then!!! ;D
I just explain that I need to work this time, if i do not the roof over your head will not be there
say exactly what it costs you, what that would have paid with that lost earnings
and of course it would be best to start off by saying ''look love i appreciate where you are coming from but this is what it means when i lose this time for work, or the like
its not being weak in talking and explaining, takes more effort in explaining but i am sure a more peaceful house is better than the headache
you can see my agony column every sunday ;D
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cant kill em
n bury under the patio ;D
no Gav wrong forum, we are not kiiling people ::)
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Not so much my partner, well sometimes but other people have done this as if, "hes self employed he can finish when he feels like it."
Which is true yeh...but still gotta earn my wages! Tell her you gotta pay for the Porsche somehow mate ;D
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cant kill em
n bury under the patio ;D
no Gav wrong forum, we are not kiiling people ::)
;D
he can play ciu rap for his defense ;)
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I would explain that you need to earn money and keep a roof over there heads. Also when employees are working their nuts off and seeing the employer popping home 'whenever he feels like' you get a bad vibe in the camp. Explain to her that you have to leads from the front. I would tell my wife that I open up, close up and lead the way in between. Your employees will respect you more for it. I know I would.
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Just a thought, your guy in the office - does he ever get off his lazy fat arse and lend a hand on the tools when the crap hits the fan?
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About 6 months after I had moved in with my mrs, but before we were married, I came home from work on a Friday evening after a very hard week, I found her on the sofa moaning she was tired so hadn't cooked any tea - she only worked part time.
i didn't say a word, just got showered and went to fetch a chinese, I came back with a full chinese meal, but on Sunday evening and told her there was a big queue.
it put her in her place and she has never moaned about being tired again!
My father always used to say "Son, they are all the same from the neck up"
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I always believe you need the full support of your partner when in business otherwise its not going to work.
You cant go to work to earn for your future then come home and having to fight your corner.
Tell her your working for her and your daughters future and the sacrifice you make being self employed is being done to improve your lives.
If she cant understand that i think its time to let her go
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This sounds just like my ex . if i didn't get out the relationship my business would of gone down the drain. i started from scratch 2years ago. new missis is great, she leaflets for me in her spare time, helped me choose a new van and even helped bolt the system in. and she has her own job which the ex would never have. get out and don't let a woman control u- I.'ve leaned the hard way
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YES! i get this too. you need to put your batfink wings up when you get home :P
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is this thread for real!!! rolly eyes x 100
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sounds like you need to man up with your missus and your employees
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tell her you will ask the boss if you can go home and help out! whats that? what? the boss says if you go home your sacked :o!!!
seriously... though... only you know your circimstances...
if she is finding it hard and is depressed... be there for her... and dont broadcast it on a forum :o
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is this thread for real!!! rolly eyes x 100
BRING BACK THE ROLLY EYES!
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unless its one of your kids in hospital or some other similar emergency the BUSINESS MUST COME FIRST!with her and the kids second!!tell her thats the way its gotta be.
my missus has cancer but she knows i wont finish early to see her just because shes not feeling well or tired.(we dont live together so thats a godsend for me!! :D :D).i will have a day off to take her for chemo and cook her tea at my flat and take it round a few times a week but she knows the business comes first.it has too!!
ive had a pretty good week earnings wise.only had today off but ill be working tomorrow to catch up so itll be like a regular weeks pay.
having a day off here and there and a few early finishes.weekends off etc,etc and you soon end up with a pile of work not getting cleaned for months at this time of year and your business going down the drain.
sometimes i really wonder about you richy!!! ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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cant kill em
n bury under the patio ;D
only way ;D I need a patio, and if she doesn't stop her whining that is where she will be :-X
love my kids but by feck I hate their mother sometimes
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ummmm
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I have had other girlfriends in the past but god this one is very demanding I always stood up to them moaning with this one I back down for easy life!!! This on top of everything else has been one crap last year .she is pregnant again tho so gotta put it down to hormones etc I left her for while last time when she was pregnant as cudnt live with her she was nuts oh well only another 7 months to go!!!
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About 6 months after I had moved in with my mrs, but before we were married, I came home from work on a Friday evening after a very hard week, I found her on the sofa moaning she was tired so hadn't cooked any tea - she only worked part time.
i didn't say a word, just got showered and went to fetch a chinese, I came back with a full chinese meal, but on Sunday evening and told her there was a big queue.
it put her in her place and she has never moaned about being tired again!
My father always used to say "Son, they are all the same from the neck up"
the best reply pure class ;D ;D ;D
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first grow a pair of balls tell her if she rintgs you at work and it aint life or death your comming home and her f in stuff are in bin liners i had a wife like that shes now a ex wife, ho make sure youve got some where to go ;Dlol
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if she`s bad with one child why have another one with her? Your problems will be twice as bad. my ex never coped with our son and she wanted a second. i said no hence the relationship ended. now have my son at weekend and life couldn`t be better, tho she can cause trouble now and then
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she is pregnant again tho so gotta put it down to hormones etc I left her for while last time when she was pregnant as couldnt live with her she was nuts oh well only another 7 months to go!!!
And you wonder why she is like she is. >:(
You whole world needs turning upside down, a good shaking about and start again.
You admitted there is a problem in your business and money is tight and things are not good, yet you are expecting another little one........how irresponsible of both of you......in this modern age there is no need for anyone to fall pregnant, mistakenly or not.
My advice....close your business and go and work for someone else.
Regular money coming in and probably tax credits. Regular time off and paid holidays. Paternity leave available when you need it.
Also you can't just "pop" home when she wants or you'll get the sack
No stress and depression, just time to spend with your family.
Sorry Richy, but on the other thread I was seriously concerned for you and you business, but unless you have exaggerated on this thread, then its time for you to realise that your whole life needs turning around one way or another and time to make the decision of what is more important, family or business. Carry on like you are? Then you will end up with nothing............
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i am with helen, self up or get rip of all your staff, just you and best guy and run as a 2 man, it is amazing how easy life is when you have money,
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simplify your business.scale down.sell some work and surplus vans off and pay some debts.sit down with the missus and have a long chat about turning your business into a more profitable venture.
i reckon your heading for a breakdown mate if you dont resolve your business issues and debts.once you ve sold some work/vans and paid some debts youll be feeling much better(and sleep better!).
then you can start to make some money for you and family without having as much hassle.you ll be happier and less stressed.
good luck richy
dazmond
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One question Richie. Are you really cut out to work for yourself and own a business? you don't seem to be equipped to run much.
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What Helen said (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtpPHvLKOsa42_LivtXGivt0kyOQ_6mGzH8tNEkxRtvJaZJK6E)
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What Helen said (http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRtpPHvLKOsa42_LivtXGivt0kyOQ_6mGzH8tNEkxRtvJaZJK6E)
where did the bit go about me being nice ;D ;D ;D
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Ha ha. I thought I'd edit it. You are nice, so is your other half. lol
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It's not quite as bad as I've made out now but 6 months ago things were difficult my daughter has a dairy allergy and was getting really bad stomach cramps and really bad dioreah and was up till late and then up thru the nite, on top of all my problems Thai last year, she also suffered from trouble getting wind up and colic since she's grown up a bit things have got easier last two months a little but I was getting a lot of phone calls to come home coz my girlfriend was shattered
Helen I think your a bit out of order you always jump the gun and harp on how crap I'm doing I'd like to see how you would cope in situation this last year ya quick enuf to judge I give honest posts about my situations and don't come on here lying I write honest posts and come here for advice.
Why would I want to close a business down that if worked
hard at for last three to four years and let robbing bar stewards win and beat me if had a hard time but I'm not going to back down and crumble im prepared to go through hard times coz I'm confident I canter back on track.
I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track
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One question Richie. Are you really cut out to work for yourself and own a business? you don't seem to be equipped to run much.
i;ve never met richie, but from what i do know of him (i work in his area and on this forum), he is very good at running his own business. he's done really well to grow a business many people on here would be delighted to have. yes it sounds like he's made some mistakes in trying to get his business into a multi van operation with additional services and employees... but he's certainly not the only person to hit trouble when growing from a single operator to a small - medium size business. on a smaller scale i have hit some problems, especially last year, and i have the advice and support of a really experienced mentor who helped guide me back onto the right track.
richy himself can see things are not working right now, and he is clearly trying to sort things out the best he can. he just uses the forums to vent a little, and to ask for help and support... which does lay him open to being attacked quite a bit.
for my tuppence worth i reckon richy knows what he needs to do to sort things out, and he's probably on the road to doing it. its just never nice getting rid of people, and always hard to cull customers... even bad ones :(
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richy, what helen said is right, you come on here and all you say is you employ 5 staff yet you dont draw a wage, so you must work for free, you have 600 custy on a 6 wekly cycle which to me is a 1/2 man work not 5, you moan your miss phones saying come home, but if i employed 5 staff, i wouldnt be out working i would be part time office,
everone has given you the same advice, but you aint listening, get rid off office boy and 2 of your staff, put the other 2 in the van cleaning windows, and you knock/office work your self, that way you will at least get a wage and can help out with the kids, becasue all i can see happening is you get in more debt, go bust, she leave you and takes the kids, this business is the worlds simplest business over complicated by people, you are the same as a wc i know, every week he has a different idea how to make money, struggles to pay his mortage, but got all these great ideas in lots of debt
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One question Richie. Are you really cut out to work for yourself and own a business? you don't seem to be equipped to run much.
i;ve never met richie, but from what i do know of him (i work in his area and on this forum), he is very good at running his own business. he's done really well to grow a business many people on here would be delighted to have. yes it sounds like he's made some mistakes in trying to get his business into a multi van operation with additional services and employees... but he's certainly not the only person to hit trouble when growing from a single operator to a small - medium size business. on a smaller scale i have hit some problems, especially last year, and i have the advice and support of a really experienced mentor who helped guide me back onto the right track.
richy himself can see things are not working right now, and he is clearly trying to sort things out the best he can. he just uses the forums to vent a little, and to ask for help and support... which does lay him open to being attacked quite a bit.
for my tuppence worth i reckon richy knows what he needs to do to sort things out, and he's probably on the road to doing it. its just never nice getting rid of people, and always hard to cull customers... even bad ones :(
he might have a few vans and loads of custy, but isnt making money, no thanks i will staick to my nice part time round,
cull custys is easy, if they dont pay they get dumped, is he a charity
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It sounds like its coming to a head for your Richy, be very careful you could come out of this situation with nothing
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some women are meant to moan and do it very well,you have 1 of those type and so do i lol.
i feel your pain lol
fancy a beer ;D
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All women moan dont they ? ???
Rich
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Basically I've got one cleaner a part time cleaner until things pick up and Chris in the office,whose focused on selling again now 2 nurseries 25 fascia jobs,a solicitors,and two hairdressers ain't bad for selling last week plus a quote on a new highschool.
Yes I knw things need a big change around and it will happen, I've got good staff who wud be hard to replace they just need leadership and direction,I've invested in training courses etc for sum of these staff.
Plus we got about 30 new customers
I'm gna stay off here for a while NW n report bknin fewmonths
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It's not quite as bad as I've made out now....
Helen I think your a bit out of order you always jump the gun and harp on how crap I'm doing I'd like to see how you would cope in situation this last year ya quick enuf to judge I give honest posts about my situations and don't come on here lying I write honest posts and come here for advice.
I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track
FFS ??? So now you say its not so bad, I have only commented on what you originally said and if that wasn't correct, then you have mislead everyone that has commented.
IF you read and understood things properly you would see that the concern I had was for your personal wellbeing..... but that concern was obviously misplaced as you didn't understand and again you just reach out to "blame" someone/something else.
By the way I am not alone in my thoughts about what you should do to put things right in your life so don't just have a poke at me >:(
"Honest posts my a***
It's not quite as bad as I've made out now.... you words not anyone else's, so you weren't quite honest with that first post the were you.....
I wish you luck with whatever you do, but I just hope you have the health and family behind you to see it through.......oh and by the way your Grandad doesn't deserve to be pulled down with you.
As for hard times yes I've been through them and much worse than yours and so have many other thousands of people, just I wouldn't publish them to a forum of strangers to gain the sympathy vote...... so stop playing the role of " I am the only person this has ever happened to. The difference is that I was strong enough to get through and listen to what people were saying to me, take their advise and come out the other side a better person than I was before.
My apologies if I have offended anyone with this posting, it was unintentional. I just say it how I see it and if the original poster gets it wrong what hope have any of us got ???
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i think the problem is when advice is given and people say what it is like in black and white a lot dont like it, the whole point of forum, is to get advice as can guarantee someone else has ballsed up before, learn from there mistakes,
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Forget courses for your employees
You need leadership courses for yourself! The best investment you can ever make is in yourself. It can never be taken away from you.
You need to learn how to lead your team and get the best out of everyone. Its a true art and takes time and i guess you need the instinct. I dont feel as if it can be learnt so you need to identify if you have the instinct or not.
If not employ someone who does and concentrate on the sales.
Good luck
Danny
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i think the problem is when advice is given and people say what it is like in black and white a lot dont like it, the whole point of forum, is to get advice as can guarantee someone else has ballsed up before, learn from there mistakes,
Absolutely spot on. If you don't want to hear advise or the truth then don't invite it.
Of course we have all made mistakes with our businesses, anyone who says they haven't are not being honest. But we learn from our mistakes or at least some of us do!
Most of us can relate to nearly all of the "happenings" that are put on this forum...why...because we have been there, read the book etc etc.
Of course if the "happenings" are not quite correct, then some people will get answers they don't like :)
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It's not quite as bad as I've made out now....
Helen I think your a bit out of order you always jump the gun and harp on how crap I'm doing I'd like to see how you would cope in situation this last year ya quick enuf to judge I give honest posts about my situations and don't come on here lying I write honest posts and come here for advice.
I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track
FFS ??? So now you say its not so bad, I have only commented on what you originally said and if that wasn't correct, then you have mislead everyone that has commented.
IF you read and understood things properly you would see that the concern I had was for your personal wellbeing..... but that concern was obviously misplaced as you didn't understand and again you just reach out to "blame" someone/something else.
By the way I am not alone in my thoughts about what you should do to put things right in your life so don't just have a poke at me >:(
"Honest posts my a***
It's not quite as bad as I've made out now.... you words not anyone else's, so you weren't quite honest with that first post the were you.....
I wish you luck with whatever you do, but I just hope you have the health and family behind you to see it through.......oh and by the way your Grandad doesn't deserve to be pulled down with you.
As for hard times yes I've been through them and much worse than yours and so have many other thousands of people, just I wouldn't publish them to a forum of strangers to gain the sympathy vote...... so stop playing the role of " I am the only person this has ever happened to. The difference is that I was strong enough to get through and listen to what people were saying to me, take their advise and come out the other side a better person than I was before.
My apologies if I have offended anyone with this posting, it was unintentional. I just say it how I see it and if the original poster gets it wrong what hope have any of us got ???
Good post Helen. Although I seriously think there is no helping some people
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I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track
Jesus, you are running a business with multiple staff and vans and you are going cap in hand to your grandad. My advise, leave him alone, he needs it more than you do unless he is a very wealthy man. It's stuff like this that makes people say give up and get a job. I am a one man band running for just 4 years and I earned more then twice what you did last year.
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Richy - you aren't going to like this:-
But what Helen and Davids3511 said sums it up.
You are all over the place (in business; emotionally; at home; maybe even mentally) - please think seriously about what they have said.
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What I meant was in the past she was persistently ringing me when we were having difficult time with my daughter to come home at present it ain't been that bad ,but bad enough to do my head in Helen when I'm trying to get business sorted and when both my operators are off I'll and I'm only one to clean that's wat aggravated me to post on here not that it was a persistent problem NOW
Everything I do or say u seem insistent on making me look like a dumb idiot, I do not cum on here for any sort of sympathy whatsoever just state whatever facts have been detrimental to my business to give people idea of where I am.
I do take some advice on board what people like you advise,you get personal though and try n rip me to pieces
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ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate
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What I meant was in the past she was persistently ringing me when we were having difficult time with my daughter to come home at present it ain't been that bad ,but bad enough to do my head in Helen when I'm trying to get business sorted and when both my operators are off I'll and I'm only one to clean that's wat aggravated me to post on here not that it was a persistent problem NOW
Everything I do or say u seem insistent on making me look like a dumb idiot, I do not cum on here for any sort of sympathy whatsoever just state whatever facts have been detrimental to my business to give people idea of where I am.
I do take some advice on board what people like you advise,you get personal though and try n rip me to pieces
So based on what you had already said about business and your personal life, YOU gave the impression it was ALL bad.
By me saying go and get a job and be employed would take a lot of stress out of your life, but then then you obviously didn't understand that either.
At then end of the day if you don't like what I put then that's tough, as I said I am not the only one who thinks this way over the information you put on here, but you obviously feel that you can have a pop at me and not the rest.....why?
Sometimes the truth is hard to hear so if you don't want to hear it then don't post on here.
I have said this many times before to you.... (but you choose to ignore it)
I WISH YOU LUCK WITH WHATEVER YOU DO AND I MEAN THAT
But moreso I wish you good health which you are not going to have if carry on as you are.
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ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate
and you are right Ian, if anyone posts anything on here they should expect people to reply, personally I would not if things were as bad as made out..... I certainly wouldn't be on a computer, I would be doing something to put things right, even if that meant working 24/7 to do so.
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It's not quite as bad as I've made out now....
Helen I think your a bit out of order you always jump the gun and harp on how crap I'm doing I'd like to see how you would cope in situation this last year ya quick enuf to judge I give honest posts about my situations and don't come on here lying I write honest posts and come here for advice.
I'm planning on asking my grandad to help out a little financially this weekend nd get back on track
FFS ??? So now you say its not so bad, I have only commented on what you originally said and if that wasn't correct, then you have mislead everyone that has commented.
IF you read and understood things properly you would see that the concern I had was for your personal wellbeing..... but that concern was obviously misplaced as you didn't understand and again you just reach out to "blame" someone/something else.
By the way I am not alone in my thoughts about what you should do to put things right in your life so don't just have a poke at me >:(
"Honest posts my a***
It's not quite as bad as I've made out now.... you words not anyone else's, so you weren't quite honest with that first post the were you.....
I wish you luck with whatever you do, but I just hope you have the health and family behind you to see it through.......oh and by the way your Grandad doesn't deserve to be pulled down with you.
As for hard times yes I've been through them and much worse than yours and so have many other thousands of people, just I wouldn't publish them to a forum of strangers to gain the sympathy vote...... so stop playing the role of " I am the only person this has ever happened to. The difference is that I was strong enough to get through and listen to what people were saying to me, take their advise and come out the other side a better person than I was before.
My apologies if I have offended anyone with this posting, it was unintentional. I just say it how I see it and if the original poster gets it wrong what hope have any of us got ???
Good post Helen. Although I seriously think there is no helping some people
Hmmmm, you are soooooooooo right Steve.
Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things ???
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What I meant was in the past she was persistently ringing me when we were having difficult time with my daughter to come home at present it ain't been that bad ,but bad enough to do my head in Helen when I'm trying to get business sorted and when both my operators are off I'll and I'm only one to clean that's wat aggravated me to post on here not that it was a persistent problem NOW
Everything I do or say u seem insistent on making me look like a dumb idiot, I do not cum on here for any sort of sympathy whatsoever just state whatever facts have been detrimental to my business to give people idea of where I am.
I do take some advice on board what people like you advise,you get personal though and try n rip me to pieces
Richy, you seem like a decent fella but but you need to take stock of what you are doing. When you are in the middle of something you often can't see the wood for the trees. As Helen says, most of us on here have been through hard times in the past so know where you are right now.
For me I was running an ebay business before window cleaning. I was turning over 300k, was vat registered, had an office and so on. It all looked good. The truth was I was paying ebay more than I was earning myself. I was left with big debts and the business folded.
I learned from that experience to shave overheads to the minimum. Invest in what you need to enable you to make more money. If something/someone isn't making you more than they are costing you then you need to get rid and quickly.
I remember recently you said your salesman was struggling with cold leads as he was used to hot leads. Anyone can sell on a hot lead, the customer has already shown they want the proiduct you are selling. He isn't a salesman if he can only do hot leads. Get rid and do it yourself.
My advise is to shave your business down to the bone. Get rid of all work that pays less then £25.00 per hour. Assess what you have left and keep the best staff and service it between you.
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[Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things ???
I think you are telling it like it is and that isn't always what people want to hear.
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I agree with david and helen, and borrowing from anyone is not the answer, get shot of the salesman, get shot of a window cleaner, cut right back and earn decent money, how far back you cut is up to you, but borrowing is not a way forward
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there is an echo on this site, ever one is telling him the same thing, but becasue the lads get 7 jobs he thinks all things are great, the office guy seems to only work when he thinks he will get sacked,
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there is an echo on this site, ever one is telling him the same thing, but becasue the lads get 7 jobs he thinks all things are great, the office guy seems to only work when he thinks he will get sacked,
I haven't read all his posts but I bet the office lad is a mate and Richy doesn't want to sack him. Could be wrong but why else put up with a saleman who struggles to sell?
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Never employ mates and never treat employees as your best mates...... trust me it doesn't work. Been there got the tee shirt wrote the book >:(
That doesn't mean you have to be rude or nasty to employees just don't go to the other extreme and I'm suspecting Richie treats his staff as best mates which is why they are taking the pizz.
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i think he wants to be there mate instead of boss, i can guarantee that his misses is annoyed with the fact that he is paying wages and not paying him self, with baby on way,
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Good luck turning things around mate, but whatever happens, atleast listen to the advice below.
ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate
And fwiw I agree that however much I cringe when I read your posts about your most recent idea/problem, some people seem to take great enjoyment jumping all over you for it.
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Sales? I don't understand it. This business is the best there is because of the repeat work. You don't need sales once your up and running. Ritchy your fat arsed lazy git in the office is taking the money that should be yours. Does he turn over more than you pay him? Does he earn more than you? When your staff are ill send the lazy git out and make him work for a living.
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[Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things ???
I think you are telling it like it is and that isn't always what people want to hear.
Oh dear, perhaps I need to guess what people want to hear and put that instead. :) but surely that would be wrong ???
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Good luck turning things around mate, but whatever happens, atleast listen to the advice below.
ay up Richy weve only ever spoken on the phone so we dont really know one another but think u need to stop posting too much info on here .. just my opinion mate
And fwiw I agree that however much I cringe when I read your posts about your most recent idea/problem, some people seem to take great enjoyment jumping all over you for it.
I think the term you were looking for was concern for this guy, not enjoyment at his predicament.
Anyone who takes enjoyment out of someone else's downfall is a waste of a human being.
All of us who have made comments/suggestion were trying to help him out of the situations he says he finds himself in as most of us have been through similar trials and tribulations.
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Helen , you are loving this thread are you not ?
I dont often post on serious matters , but shortly i will , this is one thats out there on its own , having been through the mill lately i feel i could at last have some valid points .
Rich
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Helen , you are loving this thread are you not ?
I dont often post on serious matters , but shortly i will , this is one thats out there on its own , having been through the mill lately i feel i could at last have some valid points .
Rich
I don't think she is, I imagine her banging her head against a table or wall, trying to give good advice, but hey it is up to richy in what he does
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Helen , you are loving this thread are you not ?
I dont often post on serious matters , but shortly i will , this is one thats out there on its own , having been through the mill lately i feel i could at last have some valid points .
Rich
I don't think she is, I imagine her banging her head against a table or wall, trying to give good advice, but hey it is up to richy in what he does
Spot on.
Not that he would believe it , but if I lived closer I would offer FOC help for his business, whether it was actual out on the road work or admin work, to help him see where it needs tweaking. Sometimes an outsider can see more than when it is right under your nose. I'm not saying I know it all....who does, but a fresh pair of eyes can be worth ££££'s at times.
Exactly it is up to Richy what he does with his business and any advice he has been given, but if he takes no notice or doesn't want to hear hard facts then why post in the first place. :)
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some people have to have a total financial and emotional collapse(rock bottom) before they start to listen and take the advice of others.i reckon richy could be one of them people.
i cant see anything but a steady ratching up of pressure due to stress,debts,missus,kids and an eventual breakdown.......its in the post.......IMO.
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some people have to have a total financial and emotional collapse(rock bottom) before they start to listen and take the advice of others.i reckon richy could be one of them people.
i cant see anything but a steady ratching up of pressure due to stress,debts,missus,kids and an eventual breakdown.......its in the post.......IMO.
It will all end in tears, shame really.
Art
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[Still don't know why he chooses to "pop" at me and not others, I certainly haven't said the worst things ???
I think you are telling it like it is and that isn't always what people want to hear.
Oh dear, perhaps I need to guess what people want to hear and put that instead. :) but surely that would be wrong ???
It wasn't meant as a criticism Helen.
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i think you are all wasting your time rattling on.
its obvious the chap in question posted looking for tea and sympathy
not advise for problems that may or not be happening and feelling sorry
for himself.
if problems are really that bad time to stop whingeing take a look in the
mirror decide you can see testicles and start making the decisions that
are neccessary to protect yourself and your family.
if things arent really that bad stop whining quit window cleaning
and become a carpet cleaner they are all nutters and whingers :)
and if everything thing else fails...dont worry ive got a banjo with your name on it! ;)
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Daz I'm certainly not having a breakdown il assure you
As for asking for sympathy the tone of the post was tongue in cheek asking if others getting nagged by there partners and try and take advantage of you being self employed and being ur own boss as my partner does. I certainly wasn't requiring sympathy I cudnt give two hoots.
I'm the first to hold my hands up and say I've made mistakes and if taken risks trying to achieve bigger things maybe before I'm ready but at time if made a decision to employ based on workloads etc and struggling to cope with all the tasks required cleaning quoting taking payments having babies etc so if taken on staff and delegated unfortunately things ain't gone to plan things may have been a lot different had break ins not occurred but siht happens and if had to get on with it best we can, now do I go backWards and lay staff off and hope to go forward? Or do I go forward and keep staff and risk going backwards and financial ruin? That's for me to decide and weigh up and take on board many people's opinions and advice
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im not saying you are having a breakdown richy but even you yourself said some time ago that you ve had one before and with the way you overcomplicate a very simple business it could well be the road your heading down.
you obviously dont want to take any advice from other more experienced window cleaners so you ll just have to make your own mistakes.however hard they may be.
you situation is not unique.it happens to loads of people that have their own businesses.they inevitably crash and burn eventually.then some learn from it and build better things.others turn to drink and drugs and really mess up.others commit suicide as they cant bear failure.some are that selfish they kill their wife and kids as well.very sad.
best wishes
dazmond
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i got a text msg last nite from my mate who is the one who wants to be a big fish, he is selling up and wants 8 k for 1500 worth of work a month, he has gone from 4 vans and sitting in a office to him, and gf part time, he use to pay staff when there was no work or custy didnt pay instead of getting rid, he use to employ kockers instead of doing it him self, or getting staff to do it, when he startd to lose work, told him, to sell off work, just run as a 2 man (him and gf) and f the rest, never bothered taking advice, nows got to sell up, as owes 17 k worth of business debt only been going less than 3 years
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Bid him £4500 ;)
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Can never understand folk that buy work then loose it ...... money down drain
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its not just me then...
night mare i share your pain rich
I share the same night mare as well!!
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Daz I'm certainly not having a breakdown il assure you
As for asking for sympathy the tone of the post was tongue in cheek asking if others getting nagged by there partners and try and take advantage of you being self employed and being ur own boss as my partner does. I certainly wasn't requiring sympathy I cudnt give two hoots.
I'm the first to hold my hands up and say I've made mistakes and if taken risks trying to achieve bigger things maybe before I'm ready but at time if made a decision to employ based on workloads etc and struggling to cope with all the tasks required cleaning quoting taking payments having babies etc so if taken on staff and delegated unfortunately things ain't gone to plan things may have been a lot different had break ins not occurred but siht happens and if had to get on with it best we can, now do I go backWards and lay staff off and hope to go forward? Or do I go forward and keep staff and risk going backwards and financial ruin? That's for me to decide and weigh up and take on board many people's opinions and advice
Richy.....
Move on how you see fit mate.Take all the advice on board that has been given,disregard the tossers on here with their negative comments towards your situation...you dont need a twat with a banjo,you need a direction and positive thinkers around you.
Sometimes before reality checks in you have to hit rock bottom,but to hit rock bottom you need to lose everything that you have achieved and built.Now i dont know you personally but i do know that you wont let this happen....by the snippets of information that appear on here it is obvious you have a good amount of business and a family....what more can a man want?
Look after yourself and your nearest and dearest,let the others fight for themselves...just like you are doing at the moment.
I reckon you will move forward now this is all out in the open,think positive thoughts and move forward...scale down to the point where you are a sole trader,maybe keep one worker on ...BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN JUSTIFY THEIR INCOME....become happy with your whole business and family life and then if you still have the ambition to do so increase the size of your business.I am sure you will find that second time around you dont make the same mistakes....
Good luck Richy...... :)
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Daz I'm certainly not having a breakdown il assure you
As for asking for sympathy the tone of the post was tongue in cheek asking if others getting nagged by there partners and try and take advantage of you being self employed and being ur own boss as my partner does. I certainly wasn't requiring sympathy I cudnt give two hoots.
I'm the first to hold my hands up and say I've made mistakes and if taken risks trying to achieve bigger things maybe before I'm ready but at time if made a decision to employ based on workloads etc and struggling to cope with all the tasks required cleaning quoting taking payments having babies etc so if taken on staff and delegated unfortunately things ain't gone to plan things may have been a lot different had break ins not occurred but siht happens and if had to get on with it best we can, now do I go backWards and lay staff off and hope to go forward? Or do I go forward and keep staff and risk going backwards and financial ruin? That's for me to decide and weigh up and take on board many people's opinions and advice
Richy.....
Move on how you see fit mate.Take all the advice on board that has been given,disregard the tossers on here with their negative comments towards your situation...you dont need a numpty with a banjo,you need a direction and positive thinkers around you.
Sometimes before reality checks in you have to hit rock bottom,but to hit rock bottom you need to lose everything that you have achieved and built.Now i dont know you personally but i do know that you wont let this happen....by the snippets of information that appear on here it is obvious you have a good amount of business and a family....what more can a man want?
Look after yourself and your nearest and dearest,let the others fight for themselves...just like you are doing at the moment.
I reckon you will move forward now this is all out in the open,think positive thoughts and move forward...scale down to the point where you are a sole trader,maybe keep one worker on ...BUT ONLY IF YOU CAN JUSTIFY THEIR INCOME....become happy with your whole business and family life and then if you still have the ambition to do so increase the size of your business.I am sure you will find that second time around you dont make the same mistakes....
Good luck Richy...... :)
aahhh another with banjo potential :)
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Quick on that gary999...just waiting to pounce eh?....
As i said Richy best to by pass the negativty that comes from a few.
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I was going to defend Richy, as I thought the original post was a bit tongue in cheek.
But walking out on his wife when she was pregnant is not good :-\. I'm not judging him but it makes you think about his ability to see things through.
Let's hope you learned from it, Richy ;).
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what negativty, some people are telling it like it is, he posts problems, then people give there opinion and then he says well its really not that bad,
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my advice would be get rid of your laptop, and just deal with your stuff yourself.
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Quick on that gary999...just waiting to pounce eh?....
As i said Richy best to by pass the negativty that comes from a few.
dont be such a baby ;D i clock on most mornings and have a look ;D
the only negativity is coming from himself.
there is nothing wrong with a person who has a problem coming looking
for advice and people who are a lot smarter than me have given sound advice
but this post is just whinging and whining about problems that are self inflicted.
anyway dont attack the banjos they are only here to help ;) :)
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I was going to defend Richy, as I thought the original post was a bit tongue in cheek.
But walking out on his wife when she was pregnant is not good :-\. I'm not judging him but it makes you think about his ability to see things through.
Let's hope you learned from it, Richy ;).
good post mr griffin when you have responsibilitie behave resposnsible, having
hissy fits like a child rather than behaving like an adult never solves your problems.
to some on here that might come across a bit judgemental but if you
post personal crap of that nature on a open forum you run the risk of
being judged and ridiculed.
maybe this chap should stop posting and concentrate more on sorting
himself out
hope things are going well with your baby mr griffin :)
best wishes gary
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Well forums are for discussion and you will get a variety of opinions.
Its each to their own if they decide to listen to peoples advice. Sometimes we have to learn from our own mistakes the hard way before it makes us sit up and listen.
In defence of Helen, when I read a lot of her posts I can tell that she has experienced the ups and downs of running a business. And she sounds to me like she knows what she is talking about.
Challenges in life are meant to test us, it aint all a bed of roses. But its how you come out of it the other side that counts.
Learn from it and you will be all the better for it in the future.
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I was going to defend Richy, as I thought the original post was a bit tongue in cheek.
But walking out on his wife when she was pregnant is not good :-\. I'm not judging him but it makes you think about his ability to see things through.
Let's hope you learned from it, Richy ;).
I had only been with her three months when she fell pregnant I tolerated a lot of abuse thru pregnancy she was very hormonal she also lived out of my area and I found it difficult with work etc it was mutual agreement we then got bk together when baby was born and she moved bk to my town
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I was going to defend Richy, as I thought the original post was a bit tongue in cheek.
But walking out on his wife when she was pregnant is not good :-\. I'm not judging him but it makes you think about his ability to see things through.
Let's hope you learned from it, Richy ;).
I had only been with her three months when she fell pregnant I tolerated a lot of abuse thru pregnancy she was very hormonal she also lived out of my area and I found it difficult with work etc it was mutual agreement we then got bk together when baby was born and she moved bk to my town
Fair enough and getting pregnant 3 months into a relationship was bound to be hard and perhaps not the best way to do things. And you have to put up with those hormones ;D.
Maybe you need to talk to your partner and explaining about being self employed and your business.
I'm glad it worked out for you all though and good luck with the new one.
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Get a full time Polish nanny in Rich, the get the missus out cleaning with you all day. She'll be too tired to say anything at the end of the day ! ;D
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Sweet anwer Mike , however your plan has a flaw , you dont use your tongue for W/C ing .
She would still chopse off when you got home ;D ;D ;D
Rich
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Get a full time Polish nanny in Rich, the get the missus out cleaning with you all day. She'll be too tired to say anything at the end of the day ! ;D
Hahaha she wud be better than me she's got o.c.d and she. Good with her hands DIY etc
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Get a full time Polish nanny in Rich, the get the missus out cleaning with you all day. She'll be too tired to say anything at the end of the day ! ;D
Hahaha she wud be better than me she's got o.c.d and she. Good with her hands DIY etc
im surprised you got her pregnant then :-X
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NOT IN keeping with topic but out of curio ?
what car you drive richy ?
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NOT IN keeping with topic but out of curio ?
what car you drive richy ?
bugatti veyron in your face easyclean lol
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NOT IN keeping with topic but out of curio ?
what car you drive richy ?
bugatti veyron in your face easyclean lol
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I'l get my coat...
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I'l get my coat...
lol ;D
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NOT IN keeping with topic but out of curio ?
what car you drive richy ?
He drives his gf,s beetle convertible. Nice car as well. ;D
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Was u asking me what car I drive??? I've only got a family focus zetec these days