Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Ian101 on January 20, 2012, 02:15:16 pm
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089118/Benefits-Foreigners-paid-2bn-year-5-000-claiming-42m-illegal-handouts.html
glad to see my hard earned is going good use
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seen this in the paper today ian
im just glad to see it going to a good use ::)
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Oooohhhh please dont put links like that up,
Pee's me right off, especially when i went to the bank with a wedge of my hard earnt yesterday, to pay my tax bill.
I really do begrudge paying it,
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plus the home grown who claim illegally as well ... make you glad knowing this when doing a long hard week of graft
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this country is a joke
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In terms of actual effect this has on the country, it is extremely minimal. The benefits system is really tiny compared to other things that affect the nation as a whole where there are far larger problems. Also, it really is only a very small number of immigrants that are committing benefit fraud.
We are a globalised nation and would be far poorer were it not for immigration, and we rely on other countries and their populations to maintain the standard of living we currently enjoy through import and export.
On top of that, there are very few people in the U.K that could trace their lineage back and not find any immigrants. Most of us or our families were immigrants from somewhere, be it Pakistan, Norway, Germany or America.
Please note, I am not condoning benefit fraud, merely saying it is an issue that is often inflated (as in this case) to a ridiculous degree in comparison to how much it actually happens.
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In terms of actual effect this has on the country, it is extremely minimal. The benefits system is really tiny compared to other things that affect the nation as a whole where there are far larger problems. Also, it really is only a very small number of immigrants that are committing benefit fraud.
We are a globalised nation and would be far poorer were it not for immigration, and we rely on other countries and their populations to maintain the standard of living we currently enjoy through import and export.
On top of that, there are very few people in the U.K that could trace their lineage back and not find any immigrants. Most of us or our families were immigrants from somewhere, be it Pakistan, Norway, Germany or America.
Please note, I am not condoning benefit fraud, merely saying it is an issue that is often inflated (as in this case) to a ridiculous degree in comparison to how much it actually happens.
The foreigners being paid £2billion in benefits a year including 371,000 on the dole (and 5,000 claiming £42m in illegal handouts)DWP fraud probe after 5,000 illegal immigrants claim £42m in handouts to which they are not entitled
371,000 foreign nationals on out-of-work benefits
6% of all benefit claimants are foreigners, study finds
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2089118/Benefits-Foreigners-paid-2bn-year-5-000-claiming-42m-illegal-handouts.html#ixzz1k0jMn04w
I would class 5,000 people that should not be here taking money we have to pay in taxes, 5000 to many to be honest and maybe it is a drop in the ocean but still we have to pay for that.
what annoys me is that they get more rights than that of a person born here, but thats another story ::)
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In terms of actual effect this has on the country, it is extremely minimal. The benefits system is really tiny compared to other things that affect the nation as a whole where there are far larger problems. Also, it really is only a very small number of immigrants that are committing benefit fraud.
We are a globalised nation and would be far poorer were it not for immigration, and we rely on other countries and their populations to maintain the standard of living we currently enjoy through import and export.
On top of that, there are very few people in the U.K that could trace their lineage back and not find any immigrants. Most of us or our families were immigrants from somewhere, be it Pakistan, Norway, Germany or America.
Please note, I am not condoning benefit fraud, merely saying it is an issue that is often inflated (as in this case) to a ridiculous degree in comparison to how much it actually happens.
Since when did most of our families emigrate from Norway, Germany and USA ???
This statement along with the rest of your comments I find absolutely staggering!
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I assume he means
Norway - viking
Germany - saxon
Usa - ???? Gi's ;D
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I assume he means
Norway - viking
Germany - saxon
Usa - ???? Gi's ;D
Oh right. I didnt realise that the Saxons and Vikings came here to claim welfare handouts ;)
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I dont believe that this country RELIES on the immigration. Look at a country like Australia, it doesnt let anyone in and those that it does they definitely aint claiming benefits.. and its economy isnt to bad..
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What do youexpect in the Daily Hate? Balance?
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this country is a joke
you got that right
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I dont believe that this country RELIES on the immigration. Look at a country like Australia, it doesnt let anyone in and those that it does they definitely aint claiming benefits.. and its economy isnt to bad..
Are you being ironic?
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The countries I listed are just examples. Maybe those of us with Viking decendents didnt abuse the welfare system, they just raped and pillaged instead. And to say Australia has no immigrants is beyond laughable.
I'm not too sure why you say immigrants get more rights than UK residents do. Most immigrants dont want to live here, they are usually escaping something from there own country, whetger it be civil war, lack of human right and no winimum wage etc. The number of immigrants who come here specifically to claim dole would (in my opinion) be minute. No one who has any self respect would want to do that.
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Not being ironic at all.. i just dont think that britain relies on all these immigrants. I have nothing against someone from abroad, coming here and working, legally, or starting a business, and doing it all legit. Im from Australia originally, and i know for a fact, that there arent anywhere near the ammount of these indians/poles over there claiming benefits, or saying ''oh, im a student'' then overstaying their visas by 10 years.
If you overstay in Australia, you get deported, if you overstay here, you get a caution, a summons to court at a later date then they release you, so you can vanish into your local community to live a sweet life in britain for another 10 years.. its a joke..
Sure, there are immigrants in Australia, no doubt, but im pretty sure there arent many of them on a free ride.
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Sure, there are immigrants in Australia, no doubt, but im pretty sure there arent many of them on a free ride.
Australia is full of immigrants. It started when Captain Cook 'discovered' Australia, though the Aborigines had already found it prior to him.
Actually, can we call deported British criminals 'immigrants'?
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Come on tosh, stop being so literal ;D
I'll coin the phrase, ''handcuff immigrants''
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whos calling me a paki :o
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i can hear ladderchimp coming any minute now!
listen for the sound of knuckles scraping the ground ;D
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whos calling me a paki :o
:-X
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I'm pretty sure that abusing the tax and welfare system isn't only confined to immigrants; we've plenty of homegrown benefit fraudsters too. My cousin and her husband have rarely ever worked legitimately in their lives; they're a product of the 1980s - left school, had kids, went on the dole, and have claimed benefits ever since. They must be approaching 50 years old now.
And if I'm going to jump on an angry bus, it's the one that's angry about the bankers; those guys are the real thieves here.
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I could get really wound up about it all. What with immigration, benefit cheats, bankers and their bonuses even when losing money, politicians and expenses, CEO execs and their super high pay and bonuses even when profits are down, unfair tax loopholes for the rich and their companies, far eastern imports, monies earned here by foreign workers sent back home so it's not circulated back through the system in this country....
But I don't get wound up- I'm too busy trying to sort my own sh*t out to care about the lot of 'em. Yeah- many are a set of lyin', cheatin bunch of tossers but they'll get theirs in the end. I'd rather be me and keep on keepin on what I'm doin to earn enough to pay the bills and put food on the table.
I sleep well at night and know I've done right by my family- you can't buy, lie, rob, swindle or cheat your way to that sort of peace.
Screw 'em all and sort yourself out first.
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I could get really wound up about it all. What with immigration, benefit cheats, bankers and their bonuses even when losing money, politicians and expenses, CEO execs and their super high pay and bonuses even when profits are down, unfair tax loopholes for the rich and their companies, far eastern imports, monies earned here by foreign workers sent back home so it's not circulated back through the system in this country....
But I don't get wound up- I'm too busy trying to sort my own sh*t out to care about the lot of 'em. Yeah- many are a set of lyin', cheatin bunch of tossers but they'll get theirs in the end. I'd rather be me and keep on keepin on what I'm doin to earn enough to pay the bills and put food on the table.
I sleep well at night and know I've done right by my family- you can't buy, lie, rob, swindle or cheat your way to that sort of peace.
Screw 'em all and sort yourself out first.
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