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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: dazmond on December 13, 2011, 07:29:59 am

Title: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: dazmond on December 13, 2011, 07:29:59 am
Im noticing that working in very strong wind with wfp is a waste of time.the windows are not drying clear as the strong gusts are just blowing dirt onto the droplets thus eventually drying spotty.

what do you guys do?just like a lot of you i have a mountain of work to try and get through from now until xmas.forecast bad again this week.im thinking of blading the ground floor windows and just hope for the best on upper ones.not very professional though.

what do you guys do?


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: colin purewater on December 13, 2011, 07:37:57 am
I'm thinking the same as you daz
Poor results with the pole in wind
So gona do ground floor by hand today,

The only problem is I sell my services as the fantastic wfp
Better finish blah blah blah.....

So might get a few comments about blazing
And I don't want to say that wfp is no good in the wind!
As this will give them room to cancel,
Have to get me thinking cap on .....
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Helen on December 13, 2011, 07:39:31 am
Strong winds will also blow bits onto trad cleaned windows. The residue left from trad cleans will grab dust etc even more than wfp cleans. Appreciate you have a lot to fit in before Xmas, but will your custies really be happy, maybe they would be happier with "I will get to you as soon as I can, but don't want to risk giving you a bad clean in this weather"
Losing a little income this way, may save you having to find new custies next year  :)
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: colin purewater on December 13, 2011, 07:45:00 am
This may be true Helen but had 4 days of last week due to stronger winds

So this is not a option it's still windy here till at least saturday
So just have to crack on and hope the custys don't look out there windows till it's dark  ;)
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: dazmond on December 13, 2011, 07:53:17 am
losing a little income?last week was the worst week this year for wind!!im certainly not going to take the rest of the week off this week as well!! ;D ;D

i think ill just crack on and clean the best i can!!the thing is windows i clean on calmer days get dirty very quickly so by the time i collect my money their filthy again!!! :( :(

the wind is really a pain! >:( >:(
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Avo on December 13, 2011, 08:04:08 am
Yeah it's rubbish and I can't afford to be off this week either..  :(  I'm going out to see what I can do..
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: bad trippy on December 13, 2011, 08:25:38 am
Your worrying too much Daz, Helens right,it be the same affect or even worst trad.
Even if results were not quite as good during windy periods,whos gonna notice anyway?
Bet 99% of custies never check their windows,plus its dark when they leave for work and dark when they return home for many.
Just carry on wetting them windas boy
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on December 13, 2011, 08:26:59 am
Strong winds will also blow bits onto trad cleaned windows. The residue left from trad cleans will grab dust etc even more than wfp cleans. Appreciate you have a lot to fit in before Xmas, but will your custies really be happy, maybe they would be happier with "I will get to you as soon as I can, but don't want to risk giving you a bad clean in this weather"
Losing a little income this way, may save you having to find new custies next year  :)

A bladed window will be dry & so any air-bourne particle contamination will be much less than one which is left wet.

If you use professional cleaning solutions (trad) there is very little difference in how long the window stays clean, it's actually been WAY over blown by forums like this! :-*
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: simbo on December 13, 2011, 08:35:12 am
wfp windows stay cleaner longer, fact!! as you will know if you do both ways
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: gary999 on December 13, 2011, 08:36:24 am
i rinse tops more and quicly blade off water downstairs
never had a complaint yet
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on December 13, 2011, 08:42:09 am
wfp windows stay cleaner longer, fact!! as you will know if you do both ways

It depends on the conditions also, I wfp my own windows on sunday- they are FILTHY right now!!

One house I do all wfp apart from one side of two patio doors, so that's two big pieces of glass right next to each other- one done wfp the other trad. NEVER after 8 weeks is one pane dirtier than the other! ;)
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Helen on December 13, 2011, 09:50:16 am
losing a little income?last week was the worst week this year for wind!!im certainly not going to take the rest of the week off this week as well!! ;D ;D

Looking at the bigger picture it is only a little income, compared to the rest of the years income :)

I'm not saying anyone is wrong in "trying" to clean in bad conditions, but in all honesty if you haven't made good money throughout the rest of the year (and enough to get you through tough weather times) then something is wrong.


Note to all....when I say you, I mean general you, not personal you ;D
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Helen on December 13, 2011, 09:59:53 am
A bladed window will be dry & so any air-bourne particle contamination will be much less than one which is left wet.

True...ish, if you are cleaning in dry non windy conditions, but this is about cleaning in wet, windy weather.

It really doesn't make that much difference what method you use in bad conditions.
The back of our house is quite open to the elements, if wfp'd or tradded they still get dirty quicker than the fronts, which is quite sheltered. :)
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Klean07 on December 13, 2011, 10:32:22 am
losing a little income?last week was the worst week this year for wind!!im certainly not going to take the rest of the week off this week as well!! ;D ;D

i think ill just crack on and clean the best i can!!the thing is windows i clean on calmer days get dirty very quickly so by the time i collect my money their filthy again!!! :( :(

the wind is really a pain! >:( >:(
It was snow and ice last year whatever next!!
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Ian101 on December 13, 2011, 10:59:34 am
I'm reading a book at the moment called 101 Business Ideas ... One says Just keep going till someone tells you to stop.

Think u maybe thinking too much and I don't mean any disrespect when I say that.

Just clean em and stop worrying .. Windy by me but everyone happy to see me.
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: wfp master on December 13, 2011, 02:43:18 pm
wfp windows stay cleaner longer, fact!! as you will know if you do both ways
both ways they still get as dirty trad or wfp after a month.
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: YWCS on December 13, 2011, 02:52:56 pm
I'm reading a book at the moment called 101 Business Ideas ... One says Just keep going till someone tells you to stop.

Think u maybe thinking too much and I don't mean any disrespect when I say that.

Just clean em and stop worrying .. Windy by me but everyone happy to see me.

+1 (except the book :) )

I've been at this job for 20yrs and the last 4/5 wfp - never had any issues about weather only freezing ever stops me working (and wind if its dangerous) and thats the same whether its wfp or trad, I just crack on and clean the windows and get paid. I do mostly commercial so I guess its a little different but I do have about 100-120 domestics a month and they get the same - when I take on a monthly custy, I clean them monthly.
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: NJWindowCleaning on December 13, 2011, 04:51:57 pm
Just put pure water in your bucket without any chemicals and if you have a wagtail and extension pole, wash and blade the tops at the same time. Still working safely from the ground.  :) :) ;D
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Klean07 on December 13, 2011, 04:55:32 pm
I would sooner work on a dry sunny windy day than not at all like this time last year.
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: dazmond on December 13, 2011, 06:24:02 pm
Ended up gettin a good days work cleaned.cold wind but not gale force!got a few xmas tips and there was a fistful of cheques waiting for me when I got home.happy days!  ;D.
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Ian101 on December 13, 2011, 07:57:15 pm
Ended up gettin a good days work cleaned.cold wind but not gale force!got a few xmas tips and there was a fistful of cheques waiting for me when I got home.happy days!  ;D.

and I tempted fete by posting to this posting as got what I thought was my first call back for ages and ages ... twas a job I did Saturday in rain and wind ... got phone call  at lunchtime lady saying windows looked awful so went back this afternoon and redid em but was down to local cement factory having another "accidental" chimney emission .... whole area caked in white powder.
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Flash.. on December 13, 2011, 08:07:21 pm
Wish I hadnt bothered working today my Brodex (stop laughing) ;D 36ft carbon pole blew over and broke the top section, so thats all the crimbo tips spent, anyone got a spare? :'(
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Smudger on December 13, 2011, 08:56:53 pm
Wish I hadnt bothered working today my Brodex (stop laughing) ;D 36ft carbon pole blew over and broke the top section, so thats all the crimbo tips spent, anyone got a spare? :'(

Hang on - i'll pop out and have a route around the skip.....  :P

last week i had to stop ( first & only time ) due to windy conditions - for those i cleaned i left a note to call incase of problems ( but all seems ok ) - we have not had much rain here for ages and the ground is dry and dusty - had the ground been wet the wind would be
less of an issue

Darran
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: richywilts on December 13, 2011, 09:22:28 pm
I'm reading a book at the moment called 101 Business Ideas ... One says Just keep going till someone tells you to stop.

Think u maybe thinking too much and I don't mean any disrespect when I say that.

Just clean em and stop worrying .. Windy by me but everyone happy to see me.

is that from staples ian iv got it quite good little book few good ideas for inspiration
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Window Washers on December 14, 2011, 08:20:28 am
losing a little income?last week was the worst week this year for wind!!im certainly not going to take the rest of the week off this week as well!! ;D ;D

Looking at the bigger picture it is only a little income, compared to the rest of the years income :)

I'm not saying anyone is wrong in "trying" to clean in bad conditions, but in all honesty if you haven't made good money throughout the rest of the year (and enough to get you through tough weather times) then something is wrong.


Note to all....when I say you, I mean general you, not personal you ;D
Helen, do you honestly stop working if it is windy ?  :o

We always work in wind and rain, one thing that makes this workable is because I guarentee all the work thats done, so if they are not happy they get a re clean free, now I would rather go back and re clean a few houses than lose days of work sat looking out of a window , I did that for too many years with the rain when trad certainly not doing it with wind, it seems if an excuse not to work can be found everyone jumps on it like it is a good idea. I know it is each to there own, but some of us will carry on earning whislt others just watch I guess
Title: Re: making a mess,WFP and WIND
Post by: Ian101 on December 14, 2011, 06:51:45 pm
I'm reading a book at the moment called 101 Business Ideas ... One says Just keep going till someone tells you to stop.

Think u maybe thinking too much and I don't mean any disrespect when I say that.

Just clean em and stop worrying .. Windy by me but everyone happy to see me.

is that from staples ian iv got it quite good little book few good ideas for inspiration

ha we shop in the same places !