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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: [GQC] Tim on October 11, 2011, 08:54:41 pm
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I took some pics this afternoon of my system and thought it might be nice to have one topic with pictures of your hot systems, either pro or DIY install, Diesel, LPG or other. Just to get some ideas and tips.
Here's mine. Just about fits in the Berlingo. Hotwash. Safefill refillable LPG tank is excellent, very good quality.
Two valves with some y connectors and I can select cold or hot.
Things left to do : Mushroom vent & Brass hoselock connector on the hosereel. Just venting with door open whilst playing around with it, but seems to be running pretty well so far.
http://tinyurl.com/3psy6yn
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Lovely bit of kit so jealous ;D ;D next year
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What a messy van!
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Nice set up Tim, How much did it cost altogether? :)
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What a messy van!
Oi. :P
Nice set up Tim, How much did it cost altogether? :)
Prices include shipping
£209.40 - Hotwash inc. Flue (don't bother with the cowl, it's not made for this setup, better to go with Mushroom vent)
http://www.window-tools.com/
£163.99 - Safefill tank
http://www.safefill.co.uk/our-cylinders.html
£9.97 - John guest connectors 1/2" barb to 15mm stem x2
http://tinyurl.com/68my5uf
£7.98 - WRAS speedfit hose 15mm x 1/2" x2 (300mm, the longer the better, they come in 900mm as well)
http://www.screwfix.com/p/wras-speedfit-hose-15mm-x-1-2-x-13mm/51776
£2.26 - 2 meter of red and blue hose
http://marinestore.co.uk/LBDR050.html
£3.30 - Two 12mm Y connectors
http://marinestore.co.uk/MD137839x.html
£5.76 - Two 13mm ball valves
http://www.ro-man.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=25_199_236&products_id=1130
£pennies - Rawlplugs x2, bolt and nut
Tot : £402.66
£23.59 - Aluminium mushroom vent (top and base) in the post.
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i love the colour scheme :-*
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Any photos of other systems would be nice. :)
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Tim
Setup looks really smart
Sorry i havent uploaded the pictures of my cowl connection yet, been a bit manic. What ive ended up doing is just securing the top of the flue into an existing outlet on my old BT van, and left the Fogwash cowl off
I'll try and get that done tomorrow for you mate
By the way-your gas tank? Can they be refilled at a garage, or do you have to swap them at recommended distibutors?
Ta, Steve
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Tim
Setup looks really smart
Sorry i havent uploaded the pictures of my cowl connection yet, been a bit manic. What ive ended up doing is just securing the top of the flue into an existing outlet on my old BT van, and left the Fogwash cowl off
I'll try and get that done tomorrow for you mate
By the way-your gas tank? Can they be refilled at a garage, or do you have to swap them at recommended distibutors?
Ta, Steve
Thanks, looking forward to seeing what setup other people have.
Fully refillable and legal to do so. Put the gun on there, turn it quarter of a turn, lock handle in. Open valve, push button. Fill it up at my local Shell station. Very easy.
More info on here :
http://www.safefill.co.uk/our-cylinders.html
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Thats a very tidy set up you have there.
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What a messy van!
I suspect you must have OCD cos you should see most vans! ;D
Thanks for this useful post. I don't have a hot water system yet, but thinking about it
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Tim
Attached are the photos of how the vent is connected. As you can see ive pushed the hose up onto the outlet that was already there on the van, through the insulation.
In the interests of balance, ive included a picture of my very messy van.
Steve
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Helps if you attach the photos!
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and in the interest of fairness, a messy van
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Van doesn't look too messy! Those purefreedom setups sure look pretty. Looks like the vent is plastic, I've heard people melting them, does it get hot?
Ps. this is the mushroom vent I was talking about, cheapest metal I could find.
http://www.procastnotts.com/30121/info.php?p=6&pno=0
I hope the base actually goes down in the van enough for me to hook up the pipe to.
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looks good but IMO its just more things to go wrong,higher insurance and general faffing about.i was thinking of a hot system a few months ago but i dont think ill bother.its probably only worth using if you do lots of one off cleans and conny roofs.maybe the odd day if we get really cold weather.
oil filled rad,aquarium heaters and a duvet is my winter preperation.oh and screenwash/trad pole if its below freezing in the day and hoses are freezing up.
more expense on top of normal wfp costs as well with diesel/gas used has put me off going hot!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
regards
dazmond
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can guarentee you will go hot dazmond heard it all before from you, wasnt so long ago you were trad only and couldnt see how wfp would do a good enough job!
and dazmond why put a oil filled rad in your van then cover the tank with a duvet? sounds stupid!
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Helps if you attach the photos!
Hi Pure Glass
Where did you get the mushroom vent from please?
Thanks
Spruce
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Hi Spruce
I'm afraid it had already been fitted to the van when a bought it
Its an old BT van and they used lpg tanks apparently
Apologies mate
Steve
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Hi Steve
Thanks anyway. I like the minimal height of it.
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starM ill put the duvet over the top of the tank not the sides!itll insulate it a bit!im still not convinced hot is the way to go as i want to keep my overheads to a minimum!! ;) ;D ;D
best wishes
dazmond
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looks good but IMO its just more things to go wrong,higher insurance and general faffing about.i was thinking of a hot system a few months ago but i dont think ill bother.its probably only worth using if you do lots of one off cleans and conny roofs.maybe the odd day if we get really cold weather.
oil filled rad,aquarium heaters and a duvet is my winter preperation.oh and screenwash/trad pole if its below freezing in the day and hoses are freezing up.
more expense on top of normal wfp costs as well with diesel/gas used has put me off going hot!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Don't know where you clean Dazmond me old mucker but last year we had almost 3 months of -10 days, I have been running hot for 3 years now and have hardly missed a day.
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ive been cold wfp since 2007,i missed seven days
during last winter and that was due to vehicle breakdown
couldnt see hot helping me with that one.
the only time i have problems during really
cold weather is when cutomers arent in and the water
freezes to the window but thats a rarity.
i insulate my pole hose and keep my packs off the
ground and salt,grit if it freezes on the ground.
i clean a lot of old properties with old glass and there is
no way i would trust hot water on these windows in cold
weather
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Less babble, more pictures please! :D
This isn't a cold vs hot debate, thanks!
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Less babble, more pictures please! :D
This isn't a cold vs hot debate, thanks!
i wasnt debating >:( ;D
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nice system. did you have that installed professionally? . i want to do the same but worried about the cost , what did that cost? if you dont mind telling
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nice system. did you have that installed professionally? . i want to do the same but worried about the cost , what did that cost? if you dont mind telling
Hi, I've installed that myself. Well actually I had the tank & frame fitted because the fuel tank had to come out underneath, didn't fancy balaning the tank on my chest etc. Every single thing other then that I've put in myself.
To be fair if I'd do it again I'd get a DIY fit crash tested tank and securing system (these should come to market sooner then later) and buy and order the parts myself and fit them. It's not hard. Best to make a drawing first of all components, tubing, wiring etc necessary and then go from that. If you don't want the hassle, Purefreedom systems probably come in closest in cost when it comes to cold systems.
If you were purely speaking about the hot add on, that's very very simple to do.
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i thought the same daz at first but its worth having i hardlly use any gas just have it warm not to hot its kept me going in freezing weather plus the hose and pole help keep chill off plus dint loose any days off with freezing pipes etc ;D when you tell your custys your hot wash watch the expretion on there face worth every penny pays for its self in no time so think on when your stuck in cose its baltic were out ;D
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1327685495_hotwash.jpg)
Here you go
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(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1327685682_vent.jpg)
Roof vent.
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That roof vent looks interesting, where did you get that one from? What's it called?
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https://www.easupplies.com/BROAN-RVK1A-Roof-Vent-Kit-p/hv2f95.htm
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Just looked at the pics, i really like the way the hose drops into the floor and comes out the rollers. Wheres that from?
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Hi Your van looks great
I'd get a DIY fit crash tested tank and securing system (these should come to market sooner then later) Do you know when and who from?
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Just looked at the pics, i really like the way the hose drops into the floor and comes out the rollers. Wheres that from?
Rollers are winch guide rollers, ebay will sort you out. The cabinet mount roller guide can be purchased from Gardiners.
Hi Your van looks great
I'd get a DIY fit crash tested tank and securing system (these should come to market sooner then later) Do you know when and who from?
I've heard some rumours, not sure yet where it's going to be sold.
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can guarentee you will go hot dazmond heard it all before from you, wasnt so long ago you were trad only and couldnt see how wfp would do a good enough job!
and dazmond why put a oil filled rad in your van then cover the tank with a duvet? sounds stupid!
Hes just trying to keep the frost of it im no expert but can see his reason.
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I do like your adaption of the hose reel pure brilliant and i can see u have put alot of time and thought into it,i will let you know my thoughts after this cold snap we have comming up lol
All t,he best
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I do like your adaption of the hose reel pure brilliant and i can see u have put alot of time and thought into it,i will let you know my thoughts after this cold snap we have comming up lol
All t,he best
Thanks it works really well, I can have over 180 degree of movement, so even if the van isn't pointing in the best direction it's still fine. Because it's low as well it doesn't cause any trip hazard, even when pulling. I was doing my back in at one point and thought, there must be an easier option. As far as I know I was the first to implement something along these lines. :)
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On the grippatank website there is talk of a mira crash tested system coming soon
Wonder if it is the same as gardiners sold as they have some connection through the poles for gutter vacs????????
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http://www.grippatank.co.uk/FAQS/special-offers.html
Could very well be.....
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For the people that use the hotwash system. What do you set your heat to? I have just put my hotwash in my van today. When i turned the water on it was still coming out cold at the brush until i pulled most of the hose out then it started getting hot at the brush but i noticed the hose that was on the inside of the reel was more swollen that the outside hose and i dont want to put the temp to high and ruin my hose.
I have a few first cleans due and i want to use the hot water, would summer and high work good enough or should i put it to winter?
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Hi, I'm just concern a about any legislation to drive whit such equipment in the van. Anybody knows something about ??
That's why I'm looking something 12v. powered
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This time of year i run my hotwash on winter & a tad off the lowest setting,
Just keep testing the heat with your hand,
Warning dont have it too hot, this time of year, glass will break
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Hi, I'm just concern a about any legislation to drive whit such equipment in the van. Anybody knows something about ??
That's why I'm looking something 12v. powered
12v hotwash !???