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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: regency on April 23, 2011, 03:30:25 pm

Title: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: regency on April 23, 2011, 03:30:25 pm
CAN ANY ONE HELP ME
I HAVE A LARGE JOB TO PRICE AND THEY WNAT IT IN SQM CAN ANY TELL ME WHAT TO CHARGE.


CHEERS KEITH
Title: Re: PRICE BY M2
Post by: Tom White on April 23, 2011, 03:42:34 pm
£30!  ;D

PS.  What does "M2" mean?
Title: Re: PRICE BY M2
Post by: groundhog on April 23, 2011, 03:44:38 pm

PS.  What does "M2" mean?

Took the words right out of my mouth!!!  ;D
Title: Re: PRICE BY M2
Post by: mci services on April 23, 2011, 03:50:20 pm
isn't m2 geek speak for being paid in materials rather in cash?
Title: Re: PRICE BY M2
Post by: Ian101 on April 23, 2011, 03:50:37 pm
metre sqared
Title: Re: PRICE BY M2
Post by: cozy on April 23, 2011, 03:54:29 pm
Nah, he means a job on the M2, Kent













I think. 8)
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: Tom White on April 23, 2011, 10:41:34 pm
CAN ANY ONE HELP ME
I HAVE A LARGE JOB TO PRICE AND THEY WNAT IT IN SQM CAN ANY TELL ME WHAT TO CHARGE.


CHEERS KEITH

Tell 'em it's not just about the size of the surface area of glass to be cleaned, it's more about access.  Cleaning a 1 meter square piece of glass at ground level is going to be a heck of a lot easier than cleaning it when it's at (for example) 40 foot from the ground.

Tell 'em it would be far more sensible to want a quote for the whole job, rather than on a meter squared basis.
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: mci services on April 23, 2011, 10:48:47 pm
ok I get it now, if asked to charge by the square meter, price as normal, then divide the square meters by your price and then you get your price by square meter

i.e 1000 square meters you price the job at £250 = £4 per square meter, that is just an example though
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: Tom White on April 23, 2011, 11:03:39 pm
You're quite bright for a Jock, Stu! ;D
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: mci services on April 23, 2011, 11:08:26 pm
You're quite bright for a Jock, Stu! ;D

and to bright for the infantry as well ;D it got me in no end of trouble ;)
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: windiewasher on April 23, 2011, 11:22:27 pm
That's 25p
4 pound x 1000 = 4000
ok I get it now, if asked to charge by the square meter, price as normal, then divide the square meters by your price and then you get your price by square meter

i.e 1000 square meters you price the job at £250 = £4 per square meter, that is just an example though
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: mci services on April 23, 2011, 11:31:54 pm
That's 25p
4 pound x 1000 = 4000
ok I get it now, if asked to charge by the square meter, price as normal, then divide the square meters by your price and then you get your price by square meter

i.e 1000 square meters you price the job at £250 = £4 per square meter, that is just an example though

ok maybe I am being dim but I said divide not multiply, i.e. 750 square meter divided by £150 = £5 a square meter or am I missing something  here, if I am I will hold my hands up and say I am wrong
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: the bfg on April 24, 2011, 05:28:44 am
yet another to ask a question with no meaning and then run off
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: cozy on April 24, 2011, 10:00:45 am
Any building bigger than 100 sqm here is usually priced by sqr mtr. Standard prices vary from state to state. But in the area I live in, the average price per sqr mtr is from €1.35 to €1.75 per sqr mtr inside and out. This system of pricing helps to work out how long a job should take with how many people working on it. Prices will vary also for high work and access etc etc

The maths I've seen in this thread mean that it wouldn't be a good idea for some of you to use this system. ;D ;D ;D

750 mtes at 5 quid a mtr would be 3750 quid!!!!! The correct sum is 150 quid divided by 750 mtrs. 20p a mtr. Crap price!!!!  

Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: cozy on April 24, 2011, 10:11:13 am
ok I get it now, if asked to charge by the square meter, price as normal, then divide the square meters by your price and then you get your price by square meter

i.e 1000 square meters you price the job at £250 = £4 per square meter, that is just an example though

25p per sqr mtr. You lot up in Scotland must earn millions a year!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: chopsie on April 24, 2011, 10:18:03 am

ok maybe I am being dim but I said divide not multiply, i.e. 750 square meter divided by £150 = £5 a square meter or am I missing something  here, if I am I will hold my hands up and say I am wrong

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and to bright for the infantry as well ;D it got me in no end of trouble ;)

[/quote]you sure about that  ;D ;D ;D cannon fodder  ;D ;D :P :P
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: Paul Coleman on April 24, 2011, 10:19:58 am
Sounds like a weird way to have to price.  The glass area is only one thing to consider.  It could probably be done that way if you were pricing masses of work (and I do mean a heck of a lot) because it would probably average out Ok - but not for anything less.
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: cozy on April 24, 2011, 10:25:23 am
It's the only system used here Paul. I've done a massive hospital in a town called Minden here in Boxheadland mate. It has access problems, height problems etc etc. If you price correctly on a building as big as that (8000 sqr mtrs) it all works out. Never had a bad price off this system yet. If a building has 300 sqr mtrs, without a system in place, 2 people could have a price difference of 400% or more.

I read earlier this year about pricing in UK. I thought then, that it was guess work at best. Sqr mtr pricing allows people who are crap at maths get the price right. (Me)  ;D
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: cozy on April 24, 2011, 10:37:01 am
Here's the town hall (Rathaus) in a town called Clarholz that we clean every 3 months. What you can see at the front picture is about half of the total glass. The job is insides and out. No ladder work really as all windows here open inwards. We have the exact sqr mtr measurements and we charge by the sqr mtr. 586 sqr mtr.

How long would this job take to do?? No ladders needed, no WFP, inside and out?

Now maybe it makes sense.
(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/5/1049558/Herzebrock-Rathaus.jpg)
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: mci services on April 24, 2011, 10:59:28 am
I wasn't trying to give an example of the price, only of how to work out the method of pricing, I just plucked the numbers out at random, although it seems I got my sums the wrong way round ;D but that isn't surprising as I had been in the pub all afternoon 8)
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: cozy on April 24, 2011, 11:08:47 am
I wasn't trying to give an example of the price, only of how to work out the method of pricing, I just plucked the numbers out at random, although it seems I got my sums the wrong way round ;D but that isn't surprising as I had been in the pub all afternoon 8)

Glad you don't price my jobs for me Stu  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PRICE BY sqm
Post by: regency on April 24, 2011, 11:33:50 am
THANKS FOR YOU INPUT GUYS
I HAVE BEEN CLEANING WINDOWS FOR A LONG TIME AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO QOUTE BY SQM

CHEERS KEITH