Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steven Shoreditch on December 23, 2010, 10:23:37 pm
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I read on the other thread that hot water spots more than cold. Is this true? What proof of this is there?
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Its like saying trad cleaning attracts more electronic particles from the atmosphere which is why the windows dont stay clean for so long as WFP.
They may not stay clean for so long but Id love to know the window-cleaner that discovered it was due to the charge of the electronic particles. More bollox to be honest
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I read on the other thread that hot water spots more than cold. Is this true? What proof of this is there?
It’s not true,
Pure water won’t leave spotting regardless of the temperature
Simple explanation without the detail
You should be able to clean a large pane of glass in 2-3 seconds spot free, I know if I use heated water I have to make doubly sure all the contaminated water has also been removed from the glass by rinsing thoroughly, heated water dissolve dirt better and the heated water stays on the glass. (Work it out)
The other consideration is how dirty the window is and the type of dirt.
So if you try to clean as fast with heated water as you would with cold water you will get spotting, when doing regular work. This does depend on a number of things other than the type of work.
numpty
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It’s not true,
Pure water won’t leave spotting regardless of the temperature
Simple explanation without the detail
You should be able to clean a large pane of glass in 2-3 seconds spot free, I know if I use heated water I have to make doubly sure all the contaminated water has also been removed from the glass by rinsing thoroughly, heated water dissolve dirt better and the heated water stays on the glass. (Work it out)
The other consideration is how dirty the window is and the type of dirt.
So if you try to clean as fast with heated water as you would with cold water you will get spotting, when doing regular work. This does depend on a number of things other than the type of work.
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So,pure water won't leave spotting regardless of temperature,however,if you clean a window as fast with hot water as you do wiyh cold,then it will spot.
Am i missing something?
Help me Matt??
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So,pure water won't leave spotting regardless of temperature,however,if you clean a window as fast with hot water as you do wiyh cold,then it will spot.
Am i missing something?
Help me Matt??
I think he's talking bollox mate. Ignore him.
Wash followed by rinse, its that simple.
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So,pure water won't leave spotting regardless of temperature,however,if you clean a window as fast with hot water as you do wiyh cold,then it will spot.
Am i missing something?
Help me Matt??
Yeah it called the dirt you are removing
Are you supposed to be window cleaner?
You could be walking into one here Ewan ;D
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Phew.
Probably the most contradicting post i've ever read.
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;D ??? ;D
Cozy reckons you're a trolley pusher, I disagree with him, though we do both agree you talk utter drivel with no sense whatsoever.
I reckon you're a piano tuner.
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So,pure water won't leave spotting regardless of temperature,however,if you clean a window as fast with hot water as you do wiyh cold,then it will spot.
Am i missing something?
Help me Matt??
If two windows are identical size/dirt and you wash one with hot and one with cold in exactly the same way,then why would one spot,genius pro?
Yeah it called the dirt you are removing
Are you supposed to be window cleaner?
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So,pure water won't leave spotting regardless of temperature,however,if you clean a window as fast with hot water as you do wiyh cold,then it will spot.
Am i missing something?
Help me Matt??
I think he's talking bollox mate. Ignore him.
Wash followed by rinse, its that simple.
Bollox is saying if I clean a big house I earn more
Blind leading the blind, simples lol
Ten £10 houses or one £100 house. i know what i'd rather do. If the time on the glass was identical then you still have to get out your gear,put it away,do some driving inbetween. More collecting,invoicing etc. Twat
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Is this you Ewan?
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01411/Derek-Paravicini_1411653c.jpg)
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luther r u hot now ???
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CIU has got a reputation
So have you.
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luther r u hot now ???
No Gav,times are hard in my house.Going to have to borrow some money off Ewan to see me through. The vans are getting repossesed,the houses,the SL and her beetle cab,going to take my daughter out of private school and the misses is going to have to get a job.
Help me Ewan,i'm doing something wrong.
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r u hell as like lad
u dont no skint lol
u crack me up jamie ;D ;D ;D
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Dislodge the dirt and don't rinse properly and you will get spots regardless of temp.
Don't normally jump on the bandwagon but can somebody please put a really explosive Christmas cracker in Ewans stocking.
Merry Xmas one and all - the one
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CIU has got a reputation
So have you.
Yes he has, POISON!
Ewan why on earth do you come here? You actually do more harm than good, you poison topics with complete rubbish!! ::) ::)
Why oh why? have you nothing else better to do with your time than be completely wrong & damaging at every opportunity?
Beggars belief ::)
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Now he's deleted his posts again ::)
WHAT A COMPLETE TIT >:(
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CIU has got a reputation
So have you.
Yes he has, POISON!
Ewan why on earth do you come here? You actually do more harm than good, you poison topics with complete rubbish!! ::) ::)
Why oh why? have you nothing else better to do with your time than be completely wrong & damaging at every opportunity?
Beggars belief ::)
Making money is hard winproclean, as much as you like to make out you’re a success, your not and you hold others back
You have no idea
Why do you think people buy ionic systems winproclean?
This is a really easy question, but you’ll struggle to answer that correctly
I ain't wasting my breath, you've proved you have zero knowledge Ewan & it's a shame for the forum that you are allowed to continue your agenda of intentional damage just for the sake of it!
You just poison threads & confuse newbies, all for the sake of trying to look clever.
You are in fact, anything but clever & not one bit funny either. ::)
Again, it's a real shame for the forum. ::)
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Zero knowledge
International damage
Poison threads
Confuse newbies
Not clever
Not funny
Ok your right. I’ll listen to you, but you better be able to answer my future questions. With objectivity and with out crass remarks
Do you agree?
Need I continue? ::) ::) ::)
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Ewan is not Dom is he?
Peter
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Peter is that Dum or Dom. And if it is who’s Dom? ;D
A guy that used to work for Brodex, he was on here years ago not long after the forum first started. He eventually got thrown off for talking rubbish, and winding people up.
Peter
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Zero knowledge
International damage
Poison threads
Confuse newbies
Not clever
Not funny
Ok your right. I’ll listen to you, but you better be able to answer my future questions. With objectivity and with out crass remarks
Do you agree?
Need I continue? ::) ::) ::)
Your words, not mine, you really are full of it winproclean
Your not kidding any one with an one once of sense, that I know for sure.
No thicko, my words were "intentional" NOT international you pleb! ::) ::)
Look up the word "intentional" Ewan, it's has a slightly different meaning to "international" ;D ;D ;D
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Probably an international mistake by the intentional man of mystery.
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Peter is that Dum or Dom. And if it is who’s Dom? ;D
A guy that used to work for Brodex, he was on here years ago not long after the forum first started. He eventually got thrown off for talking rubbish, and winding people up.
Peter
Sounds like you've sussed who Ewan really is. Thanks for that.
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Sorry lads but getting back to topic here...........i have to agree with matt guys "you wash you rinse" the window is clean
In some rare cases when we have taken over a clean off another window cleaner we have found there to be spotting but we strongly believe that this is down to more attention to detail on the tops of the frames and vents
Hot water guys is no better than Cold water on regular maintainence cleans .........im mean come on lads be it Hot or Cold its pure water at the end of the day, but Hot will out perform Cold when used to clean algee off conny roofs gutters facias cladding etc
we only use hot on really grubby 1st time cleans and in this sort of weather as it allows us to carry on working during the warmer months of the year from april to october we use cold water on regular maintainence cleans as there really is no need to use hot
Hey why burn more diesel if we don't have to
we still have our DIY cold weater system set up in out astra van and from time to time when needed we use this set up if needed, ie when the vivaro has to go in for a service or an MOT or in as in most vivaro cases when it goes i n for a new gearbox
i have a Hot water machine bulit by Ionics systems and also a cold water system built by myself and my father and no machine or temp of water is better than the other they both clean windows to an extreamly high standard
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Sorry lads but getting back to topic here...........i have to agree with matt guys "you wash you rinse" the window is clean
In some rare cases when we have taken over a clean off another window cleaner we have found there to be spotting but we strongly believe that this is down to more attention to detail on the tops of the frames and vents
Hot water guys is no better than Cold water on regular maintainence cleans .........im mean come on lads be it Hot or Cold its pure water at the end of the day, but Hot will out perform Cold when used to clean algee off conny roofs gutters facias cladding etc
we only use hot on really grubby 1st time cleans and in this sort of weather as it allows us to carry on working during the warmer months of the year from april to october we use cold water on regular maintainence cleans as there really is no need to use hot
Hey why burn more diesel if we don't have to
we still have our DIY cold weater system set up in out astra van and from time to time when needed we use this set up if needed, ie when the vivaro has to go in for a service or an MOT or in as in most vivaro cases when it goes i n for a new gearbox
i have a Hot water machine bulit by Ionics systems and also a cold water system built by myself and my father and no machine or temp of water is better than the other they both clean windows to an extreamly high standard
Couldn't agree more. ;)
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I know that if I tried to clean a large pane in 2 to 3 seconds I would leave spots,
No matter how warm the water was, or what ever flow rate I was using.
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maybe not 2-3 seconds possible if your young and quick
but 4 seconds is possible at my age with the aerail brush on a good size pane
carnt recomend these brushes enough, their fantastic
take some getting use to
(hot does spot more if you dont wash and rinse properly
so it does takes longer, dont listen to sellers or manufactueres)
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Alex what system is your hot, diesel or LPG?