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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Steven Shoreditch on December 15, 2010, 12:56:54 pm
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Would you employ someone who has a criminal conviction, even if spent?
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Depends how serious it is and how long ago.
But yes.
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Also depends if you have any school / nursery / nursing home work where CRB checks are required as it could lead to problems.
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though u had to have a criminal convict to be a window cleaner
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Depends what it was...
If it was fraud I'd employ him as my accountant...
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Blue Monkey I see u like Morgana or more to the point "The Gilbert Show".How funny is the Gilbert character lol ;D
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Would you employ someone who has a criminal conviction, even if spent?
but don't someone deserve a second chance. if they have no job they will turn to crime to earn, never employ a junky there not worth it.
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the gilbert show is ace, love his dancing
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Would you employ someone who has a criminal conviction, even if spent?
but don't someone deserve a second chance. if they have no job they will turn to crime to earn, never employ a junky there not worth it.
I agree. Everyone makes mistakes during their life, some just make bigger ones and deserve a second chance.
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agreed, people need to be given a chance. people can change!
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though u had to have a criminal convict to be a window cleaner
made me giggle ;D
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depends what they were locked up for, if its armed robbery or fraud or drugs no i wouldnt but if its something minor like abh gbh yeh. personally id employ someone i knew local so if they foned up sick your bound to see them about if there pulling a fast one. id never employ a kid or young person there lazy muckers. weve all been there so we know what its like being that young, id always employ someone whos got a family to keep.
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what so if your walking down the street and yobs attack you and u batter one to protect ya self ya goon and one ended up in hospital and press charges and u get locked up thats wrong is it?????? ;D my mate had this happen to him and hes not violent, he got 9 months and done 6.
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Would you employ someone who has a criminal conviction, even if spent?
Depends on the conviction, but in general, no.
A guiding principle for me when deciding whether to do something is "Would I do it if I knew it would be on the front page of tomorrow's paper?".
On that basis, my customers might not like to know that a former criminal was wandering round the back of the customer's house unsupervised...
Vin
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Also depends if you have any school / nursery / nursing home work where CRB checks are required as it could lead to problems.
i have nursery/children homes etc and never been asked to be crb checked.mind you i only clean the outsides.been cleaning for some of em for 15 years!! ;D ;D ;D
my convictions expired a long time ago when i stopped drinking!! ;) ;D ;D
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Depends what it was...
If it was fraud I'd employ him as my accountant...
;D
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horses for courses, i think legally you cannot discriminate and after 7 years i think they dont have to disclose but i have certain crimes that i would never entertain employing.
as for some, we all make mistakes and give them a job on trial and see how they work out
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a criminal record and going to jail can happen to anybody and it can happen very easily. don't everyone sit on their pedestal and look down on people because you never know what's in front of you.
you could be out driving and have an accident and kill someone and end up in jail quite easily.
you could be in a pub get involved in a fight and get crim record and end up in jail.
life has many twists n turns for all of us so be very careful what ye wish for.
Karma can be nasty
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a criminal record and going to jail can happen to anybody and it can happen very easily. don't everyone sit on their pedestal and look down on people
you could be in a pub get involved in a fight and get crim record and end up in jail.
simular to what happened to my mate but it was yobs while he was walking bk from pub. no justice today he hit one in self defence and got in trouble, they got of scott free
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Would you employ someone who has a criminal conviction, even if spent?
How would you know this information to make that descision, as no one is bound in any way to declare a spent conviction (with very few exeptions)?
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In answer to the original question; no I wouldn't employ someone with a criminal record.
Why take the chance? There's plenty of people without criminal records out there you could employ.
It's all very noble but just not worth taking a chance on the consequences. I also think you have to be realistic though. You're very unlikely to find someone highly educated who wants to be employed as a window cleaner. Also peanuts and monkeys springs to mind.
Not that I've ever employed anyone mind. So what do I know!
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I would not discount somebody from employment purely on the basis of a criminal conviction. Although personally i would find it difficult to employ somebody with a conviction for violent crime .
BTW a CRB check will list all convictions and cautions regardless of any time limits so the idea of spent convictions seems a bit redundant these days
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BTW a CRB check will list all convictions and cautions regardless of any time limits so the idea of spent convictions seems a bit redundant these days
Not redundant at all. If you ask someone if they have a conviction and it is spent they are fully entitled to say they have no previous convictions.
The CRB check is not an instantly available option to find out a persons history. You need good reason to have a CRB check, usually working with children,vunerable adults or other special security measures. I don't think window cleaning is one of the 'need to have a CRB check' jobs.
Although in the OP's case it may beg the question...would anyone with an astute criminal mind work for someone like him !!! ;D
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so all you stuck up lot your telling me you never made a mistake or just f**ked up. or you have and got away with it , so you can say you have never done anything, cant quite see everyone is that squeaky clean, Ive made mistakes but i learnt by them, that's the main thing if the person learnt there lesson, there are a small few that never learn, that includes the so called squeaky clean lot ???
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it wouldn't bother me if it was something I can envisage that I could have done at a point.
For instance - my best mate has a conviction for common assault, his ex was violent (I seen it with my own eyes many many times), she used to bite him, slap him, poured scalding hot water on his back - she was a nasty b1 tch - he's not the violent type and for whatever reason didn't want to leave her, but faced with her and the poker for the fire he did what I would have done, he walloped the cow, broke 3 of her teeth, lip and bit of bruising.
Now you tell me - would you employ him?
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so all you stuck up lot your telling me you never made a mistake or just f**ked up. or you have and got away with it , so you can say you have never done anything, cant quite see everyone is that squeaky clean, Ive made mistakes but i learnt by them, that's the main thing if the person learnt there lesson, there are a small few that never learn, that includes the so called squeaky clean lot ???
My argument is that my customers might not like having someone round the back of their house when they are out who isn't cleaner than clean. My business pays my bills and feeds my kids. Why should I risk my customers?
If I ran a busines where people were supervised, I'd have no problem at all employing someone with a criminal record. Our circumstances as w/c are different.
Vin
P.S. By the way, I can tell you honestly that I've never burgled anyone or thumped anyone or nicked a car or..., so it's not really a matter of "getting away with it", it's more a matter of never having done it.
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BTW a CRB check will list all convictions and cautions regardless of any time limits so the idea of spent convictions seems a bit redundant these days
Not redundant at all. If you ask someone if they have a conviction and it is spent they are fully entitled to say they have no previous convictions.
The CRB check is not an instantly available option to find out a persons history. You need good reason to have a CRB check, usually working with children,vunerable adults or other special security measures. I don't think window cleaning is one of the 'need to have a CRB check' jobs.
Although in the OP's case it may beg the question...would anyone with an astute criminal mind work for someone like him !!! ;D
And nobody ever lies about criminal convictions when applying for a job do they.
There is nothing to stop a window cleaner requesting a CRB check when employing somebody as long as the forms are signed by the person being checked and the fee paid
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P.S. By the way, I can tell you honestly that I've never burgled anyone or thumped anyone or nicked a car or..., so it's not really a matter of "getting away with it", it's more a matter of never having done it.
good for you, but those that you mentioned ain't just it, there are other ways that makes a person dishonest,
there are people who learnt by there past and want to put things right, so why don't they deserve a chance, but you got to be a good judge of character to spot them as there is some wrong-ens.
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anyone on here been less than truthful with the taxman?
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And nobody ever lies about criminal convictions when applying for a job do they.
There is nothing to stop a window cleaner requesting a CRB check when employing somebody as long as the forms are signed by the person being checked and the fee paid
You're not understanding how this works very well. A window cleaner is not allowed to go CRB checking his potential employees, full stop. Its not lawful for him to do so. As a window cleaner you would not get the information even if someone signed you a form to say you could have it. And anyone asking for such info with no right to will land themselves potentially in hot water.
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And nobody ever lies about criminal convictions when applying for a job do they.
There is nothing to stop a window cleaner requesting a CRB check when employing somebody as long as the forms are signed by the person being checked and the fee paid
You're not understanding how this works very well. A window cleaner is not allowed to go CRB checking his potential employees, full stop. Its not lawful for him to do so. As a window cleaner you would not get the information even if someone signed you a form to say you could have it. And anyone asking for such info with no right to will land themselves potentially in hot water.
.....carry on discriminating in that manner and they may even end up with a conviction themselves.
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And nobody ever lies about criminal convictions when applying for a job do they.
There is nothing to stop a window cleaner requesting a CRB check when employing somebody as long as the forms are signed by the person being checked and the fee paid
You're not understanding how this works very well. A window cleaner is not allowed to go CRB checking his potential employees, full stop. Its not lawful for him to do so. As a window cleaner you would not get the information even if someone signed you a form to say you could have it. And anyone asking for such info with no right to will land themselves potentially in hot water.
.....carry on discriminating in that manner and they may even end up with a conviction themselves.
karma LOL
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put it this way i made some huge mistakes many years ago, but someone see through all that crap and gave me a job and a learnt the window cleaning i worked for him for 8 years, then i set out on my own now i got two children a house a mut and my own little business how my life changed all due to someone being kind and not a hipokrit , so I'm proof it works so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, OK Ive never stole but i did use violence drugs etc, back then but look how things have change, all because someone gave me a chance, I'm proud of what Ive achieved and also aware without the help i wouldn't be here now.
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it wouldn't bother me if it was something I can envisage that I could have done at a point.
For instance - my best mate has a conviction for common assault, his ex was violent (I seen it with my own eyes many many times), she used to bite him, slap him, poured scalding hot water on his back - she was a nasty b1 tch - he's not the violent type and for whatever reason didn't want to leave her, but faced with her and the poker for the fire he did what I would have done, he walloped the cow, broke 3 of her teeth, lip and bit of bruising.
Now you tell me - would you employ him?
yeh i would, self defence enit. to take just a woman biting me or hitting me would drive me mad
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"put it this way i made some huge mistakes many years ago, but someone see through all that crap and gave me a job and a learnt the window cleaning i worked for him for 8 years, then i set out on my own now i got two children a house a mut and my own little business how my life changed all due to someone being kind and not a hipokrit , so I'm proof it works so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, OK Ive never stole but i did use violence drugs etc, back then but look how things have change, all because someone gave me a chance, I'm proud of what Ive achieved and also aware without the help i wouldn't be here now."
well done mate.
shows that people can change but small minded people will always treat you the same.
a friend of mine did a naughty with his vat his business was failling new baby on the way. he was silly and he is the first to admit it. first offence 2 years, it has affected him for years with work he finaly got someone who believed in him and is now a top chef in london
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put it this way i made some huge mistakes many years ago, but someone see through all that crap and gave me a job and a learnt the window cleaning i worked for him for 8 years, then i set out on my own now i got two children a house a mut and my own little business how my life changed all due to someone being kind and not a hipokrit , so I'm proof it works so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, OK Ive never stole but i did use violence drugs etc, back then but look how things have change, all because someone gave me a chance, I'm proud of what Ive achieved and also aware without the help i wouldn't be here now.
I'm with Smithy on this one. I too made some mistakes when I was younger. I was also given a similar chance as to what Smithy got. Working for for another wc then starting up on my own. I now have a good business and a good character record.
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hey lads end of the day when we were younger we were all little Runts. if we wasnt somethings wrong. ;D
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iv been to jail does that mean u all look down on me on here, jail isnt just a place to punish criminals its a place where you go to rehabillitate and work on dealing with problems etc this cud be drink,anger,drugs etc if like me ya use ya time in jail to teach u about ur mistakes and come out and make a fresh start i think its good to give people a second chance, and for all those wondering what i done to go down i got cant dangerous driving in a ringered car 10days after being disqualified, im not a bad lad im actually one of the most honest lads u will meet but because iv got a criminal record from 5-6 yrs ago when i was 23-24 that still tars me as a bad person
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hey richy yr a damm gud lad m8
;D ;D ;D
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i know i am gav haha does me head in mate people can change people grow up, it only takes ya to fall in with a bad crowd
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wot u saying im the bad crowd
lol ;D ;D u ronnie biggs u ;D ;D ;D
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It's got nothing to do with looking down on anyone. It's to do with running a business.
Who is more likely to burgle a house or violently lose his temper with a customer? Someone with a criminal record, or someone without one? I'm asking in the real world here, as a general point. I'm not suggesting that those of you who ARE rehabilitated would do it again, just which one of the two people is more likely to commit a burglary or assault. I'm afraid that in the real world, it's the guy with the record. Whether you like it or not, it is. You obviously have worked your way through this. Many (possibly most) people with records don't.
So, given that my customers have to be able to trust their cleaner, who should I employ? What will happen to the reputation of my business if I send someone out who isn't rehabilitated who then commits some sort of crime against my customer?
I'm not looking at this emotionally; I'm looking at it from the point of view of a business. As I've said, and you all seem to be ignoring this I would happily employ someone with a record in a role that didn't place them alone at customers' houses. It's hardly a bigoted view.
there are people who learnt by there past and want to put things right, so why don't they deserve a chance, but you got to be a good judge of character to spot them as there is some wrong-ens.
I don't know how to tell one from the other, so I'm forced to take the blanket view I'm mentioning.
Vin
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Would you employ someone who has a criminal conviction, even if spent?
Yes, if I felt comfortable with the person and felt they could be an asset to the business.
So what happens to those who have unspent convictions? Depending on the conviction of course.
Does it mean;
- they couldn't work around vulnerable people at all?
- is it upto the discretion of the management of the areas worked?
- they can work but must be supervised?
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doesnt it depend on what the criminal record is?
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doesnt it depend on what the criminal record is?
Yes, but if it`s Yesterday by Guns N Roses, not a chance ;D
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iv been to jail does that mean u all look down on me on here, jail isnt just a place to punish criminals its a place where you go to rehabillitate and work on dealing with problems etc this cud be drink,anger,drugs etc if like me ya use ya time in jail to teach u about ur mistakes and come out and make a fresh start i think its good to give people a second chance, and for all those wondering what i done to go down i got cant dangerous driving in a ringered car 10days after being disqualified, im not a bad lad im actually one of the most honest lads u will meet but because iv got a criminal record from 5-6 yrs ago when i was 23-24 that still tars me as a bad person
Well said mate. Iv got a conviction for 2 counts of ABH from when i was working on the doors a couple years ago for fighting with 3 lads. Oh well poop happens, iv learnt my lesson and give up the doors ;D. I come from a good back ground but mistakes can happen and will, if some one decided not to give me a job then it would be their loss not mine
Danny
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I was once done for ABH with a fishing rod , does that count ;D
But on a more serious note , 15 years ago i was facing 7 years for a stupid mindless prank , several of my friends and i were on the lash at christmas , we were out of it on vodka and whacky , we then got ejected from a pub rather harshley in my view by the locals , revenge was taken after closing time during a lock in , we got traced and sentenced to 3 years of which 2 of us served 18 months hard labour ;D
I then came out into the real world with no immediate prospects , couple of interviews bombed out due to record , then i applied for a position with a builder clean company , amazingly i got the job , after all anybody with a shady record can be a wc , obviously not true by some of the replies on this post !
The funny thing is , the company owner was an ex police chief , he was well aware of my record he gave me a second chance , and it paid off , he got several years of service from me , i moved on and set up on my own .
I do not at all regret what i did to the said pub , it was wrong to do what i did i know , but had i not have done it and get banged up , then i really dont know where i would have been today , in short i reckon all people should get a second chance , if they mess that up then there is no hope for them , personally if i have seen the ex con , i can tell you within 2 minutes if they will re offend , criminal records are not to be affraid of , in my case my offence actually turned my life around .
Regards Rich
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It's got nothing to do with looking down on anyone. It's to do with running a business.
Who is more likely to burgle a house or violently lose his temper with a customer? Someone with a criminal record, or someone without one? I'm asking in the real world here, as a general point.
I do take your point but you are also asking "Who is more likely to burgle a house or violently lose his temper with a customer? Someone who go caught or someone who didn't?"
It is a tough question really.
My own dim and distant past is very murky. There are only two convictions for relatively minor stuff - the most recent being 34 years ago. But those two convictions don't really tell the story. OK I wasn't violent and didn't break into people's houses. The person I hurt the most was myself. So I was a drug addict. Most of it was done legally with home office consent via the medical profession. So what. It's ancient history. Not touched a thing in nearly a quarter century. Most people on here take more drugs than me as I haven't even had a drink in all that time. That part of my life bears no relation to the here and now. I went to work regularly even in the darkest days. The fact that I spent a lot of it on doctor's fees and a private prescription is not particularly relevant either. There are always people who go against the stereotypes.
In fact, I would say that due to my past, I am less likely to offend because a guilty conscience is not a good bedfellow for abstinence. Apart from that, I do have enough social awareness to understand the devastating effect on victims of crime. Indeed, a few years into my recovery, I was actually burgled. I felt I didn't deserve it because I had never done anything like that to anyone else ;D . On the other hand, forgetting to shut a window properly was a bit silly :)
My problems did not stem from innate badness. They stemmed from inner emotional turmoil that I needed to block out and an inability to cope with life. The probable causes of this state are not relevant here but I did come to terms with it all eventually. To stay stopped, those are the things that need to be sorted.
Do I give a damn what anyone on here thinks of me.
Do I hell?
If someone on here didn't want to employ me because of my past then it would be their loss as they would be losing a conscientious, honest worker. You would only need to ask the people from whom I've subbed work from. Not saying I'm the fastest thing on two legs - far from it. But I do do my best most of the time.
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personally if i have seen the ex con , i can tell you within 2 minutes if they will re offend , criminal records are not to be affraid of , in my case my offence actually turned my life around .
Regards Rich
Although it might not be the right choice 100% of the time, I reckon I would get it right most of the time too. Maybe it's necessary (or at least helpful) to have been there yourself to be able to assess people accurately.
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I would only employ someone I could trust 100%, my judgment my call, previous offences irrelevant, trust is everything, and that's why I would sack any employee that lied to me.
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First of all, even if they have a string of convictions, you will only know if they choose to tell you about it.
The other thing is that not having a criminal record is no guarantee of anything. Some of the worst lazy unreliable petty pilfers haven't even got the drive and personal ambition to get themselves banged up.
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I had a Police record years ago.....
Walking on the Moon ;D
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Some of the worst lazy unreliable petty pilfers haven't even got the drive and personal ambition to get themselves banged up.
I don't know if that was meant to be funny but it had me smiling :)
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so all you stuck up lot your telling me you never made a mistake or just f**ked up. or you have and got away with it , so you can say you have never done anything, cant quite see everyone is that squeaky clean, Ive made mistakes but i learnt by them, that's the main thing if the person learnt there lesson, there are a small few that never learn, that includes the so called squeaky clean lot ???
My argument is that my customers might not like having someone round the back of their house when they are out who isn't cleaner than clean. My business pays my bills and feeds my kids. Why should I risk my customers?
If I ran a busines where people were supervised, I'd have no problem at all employing someone with a criminal record. Our circumstances as w/c are different.
Vin
P.S. By the way, I can tell you honestly that I've never burgled anyone or thumped anyone or nicked a car or..., so it's not really a matter of "getting away with it", it's more a matter of never having done it.
Ever driven with a hangover? Or on your mobile phone?
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I would only employ someone I could trust 100%, my judgment my call, previous offences irrelevant, trust is everything, and that's why I would sack any employee that lied to me.
well said that man,
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Ever driven with a hangover? Or on your mobile phone?
1. No - don't drink
2. No - enjoy being alive
Vin
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Ever driven with a hangover? Or on your mobile phone?
1. No - don't drink
2. No - enjoy being alive
Vin
Geeez, are you the dullest man alive?
;)
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or lives in a monastery :P
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Perfect Windows, is your real name Mr Perfect Windows.
I have a criminal conviction, more than one as it happens, mostly from a mis-spent youth, but one from slightly later in life is for a very serious offence.
Without going into details, which I won't on an open forum and to strangers I found myself in a "me or him" situation, it was "him".
I didn't end up in clink due to the circumstances which were none of my making, but I did have to endure a Trial By Jury.
I feel that those of you looking down on people with criminal convictions should think a bit deeper about what may happen if you were to find yourself in a situation that forced you to do something you didn't want to do, before you tar everyone with the same brush.
I have never stolen a thing and am a very placid person by nature, but would not hesitate to defend myself in the same way again.
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I feel that those of you looking down on people with criminal convictions should think a bit deeper about what may happen if you were to find yourself in a situation that forced you to do something you didn't want to do, before you tar everyone with the same brush.
I'm not "looking down" on anyone. My sole reasoning, in answer after answer, has been that I'm thinking about my customers. Nothing more. No-one seems willing to address that point. You all get on your high horses and tell us there's something wrong with this attitude on a personal basis (hence "Looking down on", "all you stuck up lot", "small minded people", "does that mean u all look down on me on here", etc, etc).
Bear in mind that one of the first points I made was:
Depends on the conviction
So, faced with someone with a conviction for theft or robbery, I need to protect my business. Sorry if it's harsh, but it's reality.
And as for all the snipes about whether I'm law-abiding or just lucky never to have been caught, I can honestly tell you that there is no point in my life when you would have risked anything being nicked if you'd left me alone anywhere. Boring, maybe, but true.
Vin
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Your posts seem to insinuate that anyone with a convition is going to rob your customers at the first oppotunity, I think this is perhaps very presumptious.
As has been seen from the replies on here, you never know what skeletons lay in peoples closets and you can't ever be sure what people have in their past.
Also in my opinion, mostly people who are convicted of burglary are people you wouldn't employ anyway because their level of intelligence. The real problems are the burglars with intelligence, they don't get caught - I guess that it is fpretty easy to burgal a house without getting caught - just takes a bit of thought and intelligence.
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I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.
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Your posts seem to insinuate that anyone with a convition is going to rob your customers at the first oppotunity, I think this is perhaps very presumptious.
Your reading of my posts is clearly different from mine.
I said:
Who is more likely to burgle a house or violently lose his temper with a customer? Someone with a criminal record, or someone without one? I'm asking in the real world here, as a general point.
Which you have chosen to read as my believing that "anyone with a convition is going to rob your customers at the first oppotunity".
Vin
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i think most of us window cleaners have some form of criminal convictions for various things over the years thats why we become window cleaners!! ;D ;D
dazmond
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i think most of us window cleaners have some form of criminal convictions for various things over the years thats why we become window cleaners!! ;D ;D
dazmond
You might have a point there.
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I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.
That'll be security work or something then? It certainley wasn't for window cleaning because you can't just check anyones background as said earlier.
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Businesses have the facility to check all potential employers/contractors. Europeanbackground.co.uk. is one such company that do this.
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but don't someone deserve a second chance.
never employ a junky there not worth it.
so I'm proof it works so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, OK Ive never stole but i did use violence drugs etc,
??? ??? ???
Well this little lot makes about as much sense as nought. First you say some deserve a second chance, but that excludes those who have some sort of a drug habit. Then you say you had drug dealings but it was okay for you to have a second chance.
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Businesses have the facility to check all potential employers/contractors. Europeanbackground.co.uk. is one such company that do this.
LOL!!! Background checks like it says. It can't disclose anyones criminal record if spent, it tells you that on the site. Also, unless the employment is one that legally requires a CRB they can't get that either.
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Businesses have the facility to check all potential employers/contractors. Europeanbackground.co.uk. is one such company that do this.
LOL!!! Background checks like it says. It can't disclose anyones criminal record if spent, it tells you that on the site. Also, unless the employment is one that legally requires a CRB they can't get that either.
LOL!!! That was an example. Even if someones criminal record is 'spent' then there is a rehabilitation period where they can still be checked. Custodial sentences of more than 2 1/2 years NEVER become spent. If you've done 6 months then your record is valid for 5 years. 6 months or less and its valid for 3 1/2 years.
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Here's a situation!!!
When I had just gone in the army we had a young lad (year younger than me - 16) who lived at the bottom of our street
He went to the pub one night, closing time he is walking home and is goaded and threatened by three lads. I think how it came out was that it got heavy and he retaliated by hitting one of these lads in the stomach and as he came forward again.
This knocked the lad backwards and he cracked the back of his skull on the edge of the pavement kerb.
It killed him!!!
He got a life sentence!!!!
He was a good lad (quiet, kept himself to himself) He just reacted and defended himself.
Ended up in Long Lartin (spelling??) I don't get home and my parents moved away from his house so I don't know what happened to him.
Try and explain that to a potential employer. I would employ him tomorrow - no problem at all.
Judge someone on the strength of their character and the person they are - not on what they were
Everyone deserves a second chance.
Rob ;D
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Mr Mc Kay "What are you in for this time Fletcher?"
Fletcher "Getting caught"
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i would never take on a criminal
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I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.
That'll be security work or something then? It certainley wasn't for window cleaning because you can't just check anyones background as said earlier.
i hold a current sia badge i keep it for special events i retired of the door three years ago. but on my criminal record the is violence possession of class a and a fire arms caution, also possession of cs, and some are repeated a few times, but its all spent been clear for ten years,
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I've had 'background' searches done on myself and employees in the past when tendering for high profile contracts. If you don't employ anyone with a criminal record then you don't stand the risk of losing contracts. And yes,i have employed convicted people.
That'll be security work or something then? It certainley wasn't for window cleaning because you can't just check anyones background as said earlier.
i hold a current sia badge i keep it for special events i retired of the door three years ago. but on my criminal record the is violence possession of class a and a fire arms caution, also possession of cs, and some are repeated a few times, but its all spent been clear for ten years,
Hey, don't shoot me i'm only the messenger !!!!
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it was only a caution since they know one was used but couldn't find it to prove it. stupid plod they never look hard enough only had to lift a couple of patio slabs up but as i said the stupid. ;D