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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Crystal-clear on November 17, 2010, 06:35:46 pm

Title: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: Crystal-clear on November 17, 2010, 06:35:46 pm
he had crappy wooden frames so this time round he had installed new pvc self cleaning glass and Anglian told him not to have them cleaned  ??? as it can damage the windows or something crazy like that..

The customer is quite new so it could be an excuse to cancel but still makes me wonder if and why on earth would Anglian say that.
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 17, 2010, 06:38:43 pm
I would contact them & ask for the information. ;)
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: Crystal-clear on November 17, 2010, 06:42:24 pm
I would contact them & ask for the information. ;)

The only thing i can think of is as he pushed for a sale and said self cleaning glass dont need cleaning but it does right  ???
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: HIGH LEVEL WINDOW CLEANERS (scrimmy) on November 17, 2010, 06:46:37 pm
coz the windows mite leak and they def will clean them (either themselves or us) and when it does they can turn round and say "we told them not to clean them, but YOU the stupid customer only went and cleaned them and destroyed the windows, now the wind and rain is seaping right in....windows arent designed to be waterproof, read your terms and conditions missus".

or words to that effect ;D
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: L.U.K.E on November 17, 2010, 06:48:55 pm
I've seen self cleaning glass on cruise liners but never heard of it on houses before.

Have you had a look on the Anglian website for any information?
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: ant french on November 17, 2010, 06:49:28 pm
i thought it was just a sales gimmick to get more cash out of ya but i read this>>>>
self-cleaning windows aren't without drawbacks. The first thing you'll notice is that they're about 15-20 percent more costly than conventional glazing. Another problem is that they rely on sunlight and rain. Although the coating needs only a small amount of ultraviolet light for the photocatalytic effect to begin (so it works even on cloudy days), the titanium dioxide still takes 12-48 hours to absorb enough energy to work properly. The coating also takes a period of time to activate when it's first installed (anything from a week in summer to two months in winter, depending on the climate where you live—so longer in Alaska than California). And of course you need water as well as sun, so if it doesn't rain for a period of time you'll still need to hose your windows down to remove the dirt.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: tom2009 on November 17, 2010, 06:52:04 pm
lets see how long it takes for a giant pigeon turd to self clean itself off the glass next summer  :P
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: Jack Wallace on November 17, 2010, 07:11:34 pm
I have a customer who had all the large doors in his swimming pool replaced with this stuff. I used to clean in and out but he told me to stop cleaning inside as it "will no longer need it"

I dont mind as I still charge him the same and now have 10 large panes of glass which I dont need to clean.

They have been in for about 6 months now, and they are minging ha ha

I give it till christmas before I am cleaning them again  ;D

Oh well the break was nice while it lasted. 

Self cleaning? Ballcocks!!!
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: Crystal-clear on November 17, 2010, 07:25:17 pm
i thought it was just a sales gimmick to get more cash out of ya but i read this>>>>
self-cleaning windows aren't without drawbacks. The first thing you'll notice is that they're about 15-20 percent more costly than conventional glazing. Another problem is that they rely on sunlight and rain. Although the coating needs only a small amount of ultraviolet light for the photocatalytic effect to begin (so it works even on cloudy days), the titanium dioxide still takes 12-48 hours to absorb enough energy to work properly. The coating also takes a period of time to activate when it's first installed (anything from a week in summer to two months in winter, depending on the climate where you live—so longer in Alaska than California). And of course you need water as well as sun, so if it doesn't rain for a period of time you'll still need to hose your windows down to remove the dirt.

 ;D ;D ;D

So should we all be very scared of losing our jobs to bloody angliain!? or is it all really crap as jack says  ???
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: tom2009 on November 17, 2010, 07:27:35 pm
i thought it was just a sales gimmick to get more cash out of ya but i read this>>>>
self-cleaning windows aren't without drawbacks. The first thing you'll notice is that they're about 15-20 percent more costly than conventional glazing. Another problem is that they rely on sunlight and rain. Although the coating needs only a small amount of ultraviolet light for the photocatalytic effect to begin (so it works even on cloudy days), the titanium dioxide still takes 12-48 hours to absorb enough energy to work properly. The coating also takes a period of time to activate when it's first installed (anything from a week in summer to two months in winter, depending on the climate where you live—so longer in Alaska than California). And of course you need water as well as sun, so if it doesn't rain for a period of time you'll still need to hose your windows down to remove the dirt.

 ;D ;D ;D

So should we all be very scared of losing our jobs to bloody angliain!? or is it all really crap as jack says  ???
is'all crap - nuther sales gimmick from the numpty gang.
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: awcs on November 17, 2010, 09:03:32 pm
one of my customers had "self cleaning glass" on a sun lounge facing the sea. After two weeks she had me round to give them a clean as they were covered in salt. All i had to do was rinse the glass easy money
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: Crystal-clear on November 17, 2010, 09:49:27 pm
one of my customers had "self cleaning glass" on a sun lounge facing the sea. After two weeks she had me round to give them a clean as they were covered in salt. All i had to do was rinse the glass easy money

Did she use you again?
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: luther1 on November 17, 2010, 09:56:06 pm
Self cleaning glass still has to be cleaned,just not as often. The window firms lead people to believe thats its 100% maintenance free,which of course it isn't. Its meant to be cleaned without the use of chemicals so wfp is ideal
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: clearlyclean on November 18, 2010, 07:56:19 am
I clean loads of houses with self clean windows its a load of rubbish for the extra cost and the only ones that gain out of it is the window company
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: geefree on November 18, 2010, 05:23:35 pm
one of my custies had a con roof with self cleaning glass,

a bird plopped  on it, ... it rained , and it washed away.. he said ...see ?it works lol

i said if it had stayed there a week with no rain , it would not have moved as it would have been rock hard....

think the bird was called susan or something  ;D
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: awcs on November 18, 2010, 05:28:59 pm
customer still has me round on a monthly and all i have to do is rinse
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: ant french on November 18, 2010, 05:49:07 pm
its all crap, how the hell can glass clean turds and green scum off, what bout the ledges there not self cleaning are they lol  ;D  just for ppl to show off and say i got self cleaning glass, which really means i got more money than sense  ;D
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: tom2009 on November 18, 2010, 06:36:14 pm
one of my custies had a con roof with self cleaning glass,

a bird plopped  on it, ... it rained , and it washed away.. he said ...see ?it works lol

i said if it had stayed there a week with no rain , it would not have moved as it would have been rock hard....

think the bird was called susan or something  ;D
the old joke was - What do you do if a bird craps on your car?









Finish with her!   Boom boom  ::)
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: NJWindowCleaning on November 18, 2010, 07:52:12 pm
Hmm this self cleaning glass could be an advantage as we could offer a spray over and leave it so we wont need brushes to clean those type of windows and we all be even quicker with wfp.. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: AuRavelling79 on November 18, 2010, 09:01:08 pm
If you want to find out about self-cleaning glass and how to clean it (I know I know!) go to the Pilkington website. You can ask Q.s as well.

As mentioned - even if the glass biodegrades the dirt (which it won't unless it gets wet all over) then it goes to the nice white frame.

Where it is useful is shopping mall roofs and hi-rise buildings. Waste of time for domestic custies with the possible exception of conny roofs.
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: G Griffin on November 18, 2010, 09:16:49 pm
Self cleaning glass is easier to clean, definitely. I`ve got a conny roof made with it and it`s easier to clean than normal glass. awcs is right, some may just need rinsing.   
It`s name doesn`t mean it cleans itself or it will never need cleaning  ::).
Think porcupine washer sleeve or sealskinz gloves; it`s a name.
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: Stevie G on November 19, 2010, 01:26:08 pm
there's no such thing as self cleaning glass. when a bird craps on it on hot summers day
or it gets splattered with an egg how does it clean itself  ::) perhaps the window company
supply you with a window cleaner you can keep in shed.
how do they get away with it. low maintenance maybe. on one of our jobs the builder said
"best get rid of your window cleaner couse there smashing your sills with them poles"
it's what most like to do slag of others and talk out of there arse makes them sound like
they know what there talking about  ::)
Title: Re: Anglian windows Advised my custy
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 19, 2010, 10:08:41 pm
it will be  ian giles!!!!! Anglian thro and thro  ;)