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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: bobplum on November 17, 2010, 05:39:40 pm
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how much would you put into a 250 lt tank
many thanks
bob :)
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None
and why ???
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http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/ispropanol-water-d_988.html
That's why ;)
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Great in enclosed systems but it'll evaporate once in the open air...plus it's expensive...
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Hello Bob,
If you want to use Isopropyl Alcohol in your water, then use about 500ml roughly coke can size in your 250litre tank.
But remember use with caution and do not put the same amount in everytime you fill up your tank as this will decrease the dilution i.e. have more chemical in the tank, which in turn increases the risk of a flashpoint occuring.
Just use sparingly.
It does however work, with regards to the cleaning process in the winter months albeit you will only need to use it for a couple of days at the most.
Hope this help.
kind regards.
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I used it for two years thinking it helped but trust me last year or should I say early this year it made no difference at all, so I would say none as well.
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500ml in 250l...absolute waste of time,effort and cost...personal judgement does not override physics in this matter. I am not trying to be rude but that ratio is nonsense and that reference to the flash point is odd...
Cheers
Dave.
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it would cost a fortune to use those dilution rates i do use it from time to time and i did think it helped but after last winter i am not so sure but i will use what i have got , But it was extremely cold as for evaporation when i am cleaning and rinsing you can see it in the water it fizzes and looks as though the custy might have been cleaning own windows with loads of soapy water if you know what i mean , but their is no way you could clean a cold porch or conny on a frezzing cold day it will frezze up on glass
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I have photos of windows that froze up and the dilution was 10%...it just evaporates leaving the water to freeze...plus I found that using it I got a sore face I think that the alcohol was in the water in a mist and that caused sore-ness....this has only happened when using alcohols...
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Dave sparaying that stuff in a public place
can get you in seriouse trouble
what happens if you get it in childs eyes
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What the harm...it's only kids...
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its great stuff
http://www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk/news/Motorists-suffer-big-freeze-continues-8211-window-cleaner-s-laughing/article-1706436-detail/article.html
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It's a crock...
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It works for me,
Are you using the right stuff?
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Ok Dean ...you win, you beat physics..
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Thing is dean there is so many factors, as I said I used it and thought it was great but when temperatures really dipped it was useless.
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Ok Dean ...you win, you beat physics..
Ha ha.
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cant you use anti freeze?? or is that bad?
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you have to use a min of 10percnt to stop the water at minus 1 if it drops below minus 1 then that percentage increases, so technically its not cost effective. i used it when i first started but now just pop a heater in truck over night
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It is anti freeze in it's purest form. Tompoole is correct though, at -3 or 4 you need 10% and more if it gets colder to prevent freezing.
So a 250 litre tank need's 25 litres, at a cost of approx £5 per litre, it is not viable to use.
If yo do traditional cleaning then it works very well in a bucket and does stop any freeze up, even on the coldest of days.
Did you know the Ice road truckers use it in their window wash system? True, I heard them talk about it.
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if its that cold the water starts to freeze on the glass its either time to go home or get the trad pole and tools out with screenwash in ya bottle on a belt IMO.I wont be adding anything to my pure water.
dazmond
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It has a tds of 000 Daz, that's why some think it may be usefull.
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To be honest I have managed to work to around -2 as long as the building is heated, so for me the cost is not worth it
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the great ipa debate is going to start up again over the next few weeks .
ipa aint expensive as some say .
ipa will prevent freezing .
www.specialised-aerosols.co.uk
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Hope you are better at the window cleaning than putting links up. ??? ??? ???
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the great ipa debate is going to start up again over the next few weeks .
ipa aint expensive as some say .
ipa will prevent freezing .
www.specialised-aerosols.co.uk
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Hope you are better at the window cleaning than putting links up. ??? ??? ???
sorry pal ive a bit going on at the minute just trying to help lads out so they dont get ripped off .
YES IM A TOP WINDOW CLEANER AS WELL YOU WOULD DEFINATLY EMPLOY ME ;D
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OK I BELIEVE YOU, TA FOR HELPING OUT THEN.
How much does this spray can hold then?
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d s cleaning - why do you heat your water up if iso is so cheap and so effective then?
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OK I BELIEVE YOU, TA FOR HELPING OUT THEN.
How much does this spray can hold then?
doesn't matter the link goes to a can of adhesive
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I know ya fifey muppet, look 5 posts up. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I know ya fifey muppet, look 5 posts up. ;D ;D ;D ;D
fifey ::) nae bother ya ayrshire nugget ;D
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Sorry, actually where is Falkirk then, is it Lothian? You are very close to Fifey bampots though.
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d s cleaning - why do you heat your water up if iso is so cheap and so effective then?
you lost me here matey , unless you refere to when i used a aquarium heater which was before i moved house when i was in a better positon to use that , i dont lie mate but if its nowt to do with a aquarium heater youve lost me .
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Sorry, actually where is Falkirk then, is it Lothian? You are very close to Fifey bampots though.
nah mate central/stirlingshire ;)
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Yes the aquarium heater I seem to remember you used at the beginning of this year. I'm not calling you a liar just asking why you heat your water that's all.
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Yes the aquarium heater I seem to remember you used at the beginning of this year. I'm not calling you a liar just asking why you heat your water that's all.
i didnt use a aquarium heater at the beginning of this year as i was moving house , theres lads who come on here who no me well enough and no this is true .
i do use aquarium heaters for the benifit of having warm water during the winter months , i use ipa and ive never had a problem with freezing , i use a calour gas heater in the back of my van on cold and frosty mornings , ive got a really good round that earns me a good living , ive now been a windowcleaner for 11&1/2 years and no what ive achived and what ive used and what works i try to help people the best i can based on what ive done and what ive used thats worked for me .
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You said in January that you have been using aquarium heaters for the past three years. Do you think your warm water prevents freezing or the ipa?
Quote from January:
if gazza reads this post he will back me up on what i write .
ive used aquarium heater in my van tank 400 ltr for the last 3 years , i gave gazza the same type of heater i use which is a 300w this will get your water to a luke warm temp but you will never miss a days work by using 1 , allso as the water heats up in your van this gives a radiator effect so keeps the rest of your stuff from freezing .
im just in the process of having a static system frame built which runs off my central heating ,it will never get my water to a boiling temp but it will never freze eithe
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You said in January that you have been using aquarium heaters for the past three years. Do you think your warm water prevents freezing or the ipa?
Quote from January:
if gazza reads this post he will back me up on what i write .
ive used aquarium heater in my van tank 400 ltr for the last 3 years , i gave gazza the same type of heater i use which is a 300w this will get your water to a luke warm temp but you will never miss a days work by using 1 , allso as the water heats up in your van this gives a radiator effect so keeps the rest of your stuff from freezing .
im just in the process of having a static system frame built which runs off my central heating ,it will never get my water to a boiling temp but it will never freze eithe
yes thats true mate i did put that based on the previous years of using a aquarium heater i didnt say that i was using it in january of this year i made the post in january on what ive done previously and this as kept me working .
a answer to your question on the warm water or ipa kept the water from freezing = at the start of this year i didnt have a drive and couldnt really use a heater as i was in between moving it was just a case of fill my van up from my static tank all i used was ipa and i worked when others didnt so im going to say ipa prevented my water freeezing .
if you want to keep reading my back post i hope you can pick up a few good tips that ive tried to share with others .
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This should be easy to prove or disprove. Bung 1.5ml of IPA in a litre of water and put it outside the next frosty night. If it freezes its balls if it doesn't we'll all be out buying some. Personally I think these small amounts are getting into the relms of homoeopathy.
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You said in January that you have been using aquarium heaters for the past three years. Do you think your warm water prevents freezing or the ipa?
Quote from January:
if gazza reads this post he will back me up on what i write .
ive used aquarium heater in my van tank 400 ltr for the last 3 years , i gave gazza the same type of heater i use which is a 300w this will get your water to a luke warm temp but you will never miss a days work by using 1 , allso as the water heats up in your van this gives a radiator effect so keeps the rest of your stuff from freezing .
im just in the process of having a static system frame built which runs off my central heating ,it will never get my water to a boiling temp but it will never freze eithe
yes thats true mate i did put that based on the previous years of using a aquarium heater i didnt say that i was using it in january of this year i made the post in january on what ive done previously and this as kept me working .
a answer to your question on the warm water or ipa kept the water from freezing = at the start of this year i didnt have a drive and couldnt really use a heater as i was in between moving it was just a case of fill my van up from my static tank all i used was ipa and i worked when others didnt so im going to say ipa prevented my water freeezing .
if you want to keep reading my back post i hope you can pick up a few good tips that ive tried to share with others .
That's interesting because I couldn't work for five weeks from the end of December and into
January which is why I looked at your back posts to see if you did. If you beat the big freeze with a coke can full of ipa then I'll be ordering some in. If you kept working because of warming your tank then I'll look at that option instead.