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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: jasonl on November 17, 2010, 01:40:32 pm
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Be careful guys about using , or in my case HOLDING a mobile phone while driving , I got a 6 month ban this morning , plus £210 fine . I had 9 points already so they gave me 3 more for my collection.
Will have to get a chauffeur now!
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Hi Jason
That's real bummer, you'd think they be more lenient on someone running there own business, at least it's only six months, could be worse,
Might be a good time to employ someone else ?
Hope it don't impact the business too much,
Regards
Steve
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Bad luck Jason that sucks, the Law really is an ass.
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Would have been cheaper to buy a hands free unit - only cost about £20
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Six months does seem very harsh, but I tend to agree with Joe. If I had 9 points on my licence there's no way on earth I'd be risking taking calls without a hands free kit.
My view on use of mobiles is its a load of bollox, yet another easy cop because they can't catch real criminals.
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Sarah will be on later, she's been in Winchester Crown Court today with her sister and sisters husband! You'll be spitting feathers when you hear this one!!!
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I was in Fareham Magistrates , the carpets needed cleaning , I would have offered to do them free if they had not banned me ,, they can get stuffed now.
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Hope you get sorted jason with a driver mate..good luck and as wynne said its typical easy revenue for the police,i get it on the motorbike ::)
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So it's not really dangerous then???
John
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Sarah will be on later, she's been in Winchester Crown Court today with her sister and sisters husband! You'll be spitting feathers when you hear this one!!!
Just got back from court......my sister and husband were involved in a head on crash a year ago, both in hospital for weeks, neither back to work yet due to their injuries....the prat was overtaking on a blind bend at speed and got found NOT guilty for dangerous driving, even the judge looked shocked!....he pleaded guilty to careless driving and got off with a 9 month ban and £200 fine.....where's the justice in that? Its absolutely ridiculous that holding a moble while driving carries virtually the same punishment as nearly killing 2 people.....the system is corrupt IMO >:(
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To be fair it's not as corrupt as Russia.
Watched something on the box last night and some bloke got 9 years cos his competitor wanted his company off him and they bribed officials to fit him up. Another guy was sodomized with a nightstick when brought in for 'questioning'. Give me British plod any day (they have smaller truncheons).
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sorry jason but i have no sympathy, i'm sure your a great guy and all the rest but look what's happened to you for the sake of a £25 bluetooth earpiece. i use a jabra and you don't know you are wearing it, phone rings, push a button and your talking. not only when your driving but you can be working while talking on the phone. what's not to like?
it drives me nuts to see motorists trying to steer, change gear etc etc and holding a phone to their ear, i was in the next lane to someone the other day who was texting!!!
people should be banned for 5 years, how would you feel if a member of your family was killed by someone who was using a phone while driving
sorry, colin
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I was not on the phone! I have hands free! I was holding my phone not making a call it was in my hand . I am sure none on here ever commit a driving offence , my OP was to warn that you can get done for holding your phone.
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Just found below, interesting that it is an offence to take a call?? What about the Old bill when they speak on there radios, whilst driving ??
It will be an offence whilst driving to use a handheld device to:
Speak or listen to a phone call
Use a device interactively to access any sort of data – including Internet, text, or other images
Hold a hands-free phone at any point whilst driving. This also applies to all mobile devices, ie. PDA’s etc.
The use of a hand held phone, even when stationary eg. in a traffic jam or at the traffic lights will remain an offence.
In addition, the drivers, who use hands-free phones could also face prosecution for failing to have proper control of their vehicle, if their driving is considered to be dangerous or reckless because of distraction.
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That is my point Paul , it is an offence to even hold a phone .
Had loads of offers of help/drivers , times like this you find out who your real friends are.
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Obvious question Jason.
Why was you holding the phone.???
Was it going somewhere?
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I was holding it out of habit , I had been stopped looking at a text then set of with it in my hand.
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You can get nicked for holding anything (an apple for example) in your hand whilst in control of a vehicle, it all down to mister plod. Have to say females are the worst offenders there always holding it ;D
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Using a 2 way radio whilst driving is not an offence.
That's what police do.
John
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i was close to getting banned 5 yrs ago best thing that happened to me.
it prompted me to think about getting a full time helper, which i did and now i'll never go back to working solo.
what you need now is a chauffeur/leaflet deliverer he drives you to the job then he goes out leafleting, then when you are 20mins from finishing you call him and he makes his way back.
ps; i have 3 points on my licence for the same thing
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Not point in talking about the what if's and "oh you should of had a hands free thingy stuck to your ear young man oh oh oh...." :-X Its done now.
Maybe it was the time of the month for that copper! Seems very harsh! You'd think they'd cut you some slake as your on your last legs points wise and just issue you with a warning?! Specialy when you need the van for work and could potentialy make someone join the dole queue if they dont have a license :-\
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i agree, no point on getting all worked up about it now, its done and they aint gonna give you your license back for 6 months anyway so get things in order for your biz etc......its a pain......i know what you mean though, i used to look up my messages etc when i was stopped at lights etc and have a fly look around for the police, however in my wisdom i decided not to bother looking up texts until i have stopped and got out of the car/van......i bought a couple of bluetooth mirrors last month and i havent looked back (well i have, coz i was looking through the mirror 8)) they fit onto your existing mirror and when someone phones the number or name appears on the mirror and you can choose to answer or reject (button on mirror) if you answer then you can listen through your car speakers as its fm enabled....i like them...bit gimmicky but they keep me safe and legal.......maybe look into it when you get your license back. ;) get it...look into it...mirror. 8)
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The police are highly trained to drive quickly whilst on the radio and also eating kebabs.
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I once seen a police horse make a large pile on a public road.
No bags were used or even a flinch from the offender.
Thats a £50 fine imo, but a citizens arrest would only result in tyre kicking so i let it go.
2 tier system me thinks.
Graeme
Access Cleaning Solutions
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What did we all do before mobile phones came along?
We stopped, got out of the vehicle and stood in a red box to make a call. :)
No-one's life was put at risk and fewer people ended up with points/fines etc against them.
I sympathise Jason as you were only holding the phone, but seriously I would get hold of whoever is in charge of the court room, quote for the carpet clean and get a real good price for it.... will make you feel better and could fund your driver. ;D
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a handheld device.........does not say a phone....radio is a hand held device !!
Using a 2 way radio whilst driving is not an offence.
That's what police do.
John
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Using a 2 way hand held radio is not an offence.
Horses are the only animals licensed to sh*t in the street.
John
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a handheld device.........does not say a phone....radio is a hand held device !!
There is a 2 tier legal system in this country.
Not so long ago Jimmy Carr got stopped for 'use' of mobile phone. He paid for a well known expensive Barrister who got him off the offence in court because he argued that Carr wasn't using the phone for the reason of making a call, but was actually using it as a dictaphone for the purpose of recording some material for his shows. Apparently that is not an offence???
So how does that work in relation to Jason just holding his phone in his hand?
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Yes, it's a tough call Jason - and I feel for you. Good to see that you have friends who are in the position to cart you around.
My question:- why did you already have 9 points???? - for the same offence? ;) ;)
Are we really so dependant on answering our calls when we are driving or checking on messages whilst in our trucks?
All my clients leave messages or voice mail if I don't answer. If they can't string a message together - do I really need that sort of client??
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If my granddad were alive he be out there shoving it up for the roses ;D
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Is that horsesh*t, Len - or have I misunderstood your posts as usual ;)
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The use of 2-way radio equipment (unless the device can also be used as a phone) when driving is not included in the new offence but remember there is still a risk of distraction and prosecution under other powers.
All there radios can be used as a phone !
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Thanks for a ll the suggestions and best wishes , I have been overwhelmed . it was quite easy to get banned .
3 points Jan 08 for 48 in a 40 , Mike will know the road , at end of M62 going into Hull , goes from a 70 to a 40 .
6 points , 37 in a 30 in Range rover sport (no longer have it) I did not send the form back on time admitting the offence , which in itself was an offence hence the 6 points.
3points today , and there you go , no driving for 6 months! .
I will use that idea mike about leaflets with the driver.
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You can get nicked for holding anything (an apple for example) in your hand whilst in control of a vehicle
Best stop eating my lunch between jobs then
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Too right we forget dont we when were driving we caint eat at the wheel even
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The coppers argue you can't concentrate on the road if you are on the phone. So are they going to ban people talking to passengers or listening to Chris Moyles on the radio? (actually he should be banned fat twat)
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you deserve it jason,nearly run off the road with a tosser on a phone,family in the back so crying on here about it ,little bit sad,you should be banned for life,tool.
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Thanks for a ll the suggestions and best wishes , I have been overwhelmed . it was quite easy to get banned .
3 points Jan 08 for 48 in a 40 , Mike will know the road , at end of M62 going into Hull , goes from a 70 to a 40 .
6 points , 37 in a 30 in Range rover sport (no longer have it) I did not send the form back on time admitting the offence , which in itself was an offence hence the 6 points.
3points today , and there you go , no driving for 6 months! .
I will use that idea mike about leaflets with the driver.
cant think were the linit drops from 70 to 40 at end of m62 , it goes onto duel carridgway then only 40 once in middle of hull , plenty of warning signs way before the 40.
geoff
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I changes to 40 just before flyover , I was not saying I was right , I was saying what happened, banned for life , wow , Daily mail readers on here too!
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you deserve it jason,nearly run off the road with a tosser on a phone,family in the back so crying on here about it ,little bit sad,you should be banned for life,tool.
Taliban Taliban
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Jas you know my number if i can help with anything steve
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I got done about 6 months ago using a mobile whilst driving. Iv'e got 2 mobiles and was using one when the copper saw me, saw him turn around to come after me so threw the mobile under the seat of the van, when he pulled me over and accused me of being on my phone i said i hadn't and showed him the call display which hadn't been used for a couple of hours. He was just about to admit it was his mistake and go when the other mobile started ringing. Should have seen his smug face.
Mark.
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I got done about 6 months ago using a mobile whilst driving. Iv'e got 2 mobiles and was using one when the copper saw me, saw him turn around to come after me so threw the mobile under the seat of the van, when he pulled me over and accused me of being on my phone i said i hadn't and showed him the call display which hadn't been used for a couple of hours. He was just about to admit it was his mistake and go when the other mobile started ringing. Should have seen his smug face.
Mark.
I am selling my motorbike , gonna get a mountain bike with trailer to do local jobs , without the trailer I can get up to 40mph and can hold my phone while doing so, planning on doing this past the police station at the end of the road.
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, Daily mail readers on here too!
I guess you had it coming from someone, and that someone would be a friend of an anti LM user. (just check back posts).
I've been nearly run off the road by 21 year olds....ban them
I've been nearly run off the road by 70 year olds...ban them
I've been nearly run off the road by females....ban them
I've been nearly run off the road by a car load of police on advanced training...ban them
Have I missed anyone out....lorry drivers, tractor drivers, farmers, bus drivers, taxi drivers, white van drivers etc etc etc
I know it's not clever and I know it's not right but I've used a mobile whilst driving and to the best of my knowledge I've never been in a near accident so should I be banned too. Sorry but life is full of risks and accidents do happen. With the best will in the world, thinking accidents should never or will ever happen again is pie in the sky, no matter how many rules are brought in.
I'm not expecting a reply from Ady as he only posts once every few months (normally in the negative).
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I was not on the phone! I have hands free! I was holding my phone not making a call it was in my hand . I am sure none on here ever commit a driving offence , my OP was to warn that you can get done for holding your phone.
Jason If you where not actually on phone but where just holding you phone
Your Mobile phone provider can prove this was the case with your telephone logs
the police will have loged the time of the effence and your mobile service provider
can produce a log to prove you where neither making or recieving a call. a guilty verdict
is not set in stone but can be overturned with new evidence
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it is illegal to hold a phone in your hand, even if your not using it.
here are the details for all to heed........
The law is changing to make driving safer. From 1 December 2003 it became illegal to hold a mobile phone while driving in mainland Britain. The law applies to all motor vehicles.
From 27th February 2007, it is illegal to use a mobile phone with either a corded or Bluetooth headset if, while making or having a conversation, even if you're using a Bluetooth, you are not in proper control of your vehicle, then an offence has still been committed.
How this affects you
•You are breaking the law if you hold a mobile phone or other mobile device while driving. This includes cradling the phone on your shoulder, or holding it by any other means.
•It is illegal to hold a mobile phone or other mobile device any time your engine is switched on, even if the car is stationary, whether to make or take calls, send text messages, use wap or any other function.
•It is also an offence to hold a mobile phone or other mobile device while supervising a learner driver.
•It is an offence for someone to 'cause or permit' anyone else while driving to use a handheld mobile phone or other mobile device - this includes employers who require or expect their employees to make handheld mobile phone calls while driving.
•The only defence will be if you're dialling 999 in response to a genuine emergency and cannot stop safely to make a call. The initial fine will be £30 rising to a maximum of £1,000 (rising to £2,500 for drivers of commercial vehicles or vehicles which carry 9 or more passengers) if the case goes to court.
What can you use while driving?
As the driver must be holding the phone in order to commit an offence, you can continue to use hands free kits while driving (as long as the phone is not held while your engine is switched on). These include:
•Fully-integrated car kits with cradles
•Bluetooth headsets (see note below about driving and proper control)
•Mobile devices with integrated loudspeakers (even if not used in conjunction with any other type of hands free equipment)
You should be aware that the police have advised that drivers could (and would) be prosecuted if they were using a hands-free or Bluetooth kit and deemed not to be in proper control of their vehicle as, an offence has still been committed. (Driving without due care and attention etc)
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Hi
Saw a guy in a van pass me last week, on his phone and driving with his elbows ::)
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I used to work for Vodafone prior to cleaning carpets and I know that they have a department that works on behalf of the insurance companies and the police. It's their job to see if you had any type of mobile phone activity ie call, text, email, web browsing at the time of your crash or traffic incident and they can be called as professional witnesses if needed for court cases.
They are a very busy department by all accounts.
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A friend of ours was killed whilst using a mobile. She was turning off the A1 and crossed in front of a lorry. I once went through a red light whilst hands free. They are killers no argument.
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John
You could equally say, 'I did something silly in the car and I was listening to the radio, it's a killer' we are human and occasionally we make mistakes. Whatever is going on in the cab we will tend to assume it was that.
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When our judgement is compromised we are gambling with our own and other peoples lives. We tend to shrug off " close calls " too easily. They happen every day to us all and we get used to " near miss scenarios " If you encounter them regularly you need to look hard at your driving skills and your self control.
Strange things happen to an awful lot of people behind the wheel of a car and most people are NOT good drivers. Usually the worst drivers are convinced they're the best.
I always thought I was a brilliant driver as I could drive very fast, brake late, never lose control, could drive through snow and ice when others couldn't.
I was good at physically driving a vehicle but that doesn't necessarily tranlate to driving safely on the road.
Had the pleasure of sitting beside Jackie Stewart many years ago on a drive through city and suburban trffic. Never exceeded the speed limit, no squeeling tyres, no "attitude" or impatience to other road users.
When I trained as a driving instructor I was fortunate to do so in Wimbledon with a team of former Traffic Cops. It changed my whole thinking about driving and I'm happy to say I've retained the skills I learned with them.
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I am one of these strange people who do not live by the mobile.
I do not take mine with me.
Or if I do I just phone in after the job is complete.
Regretably I do forget where it is,
Although I am extremely sorry you have been banned , which will now mean you have to take on staff , maybe you need to up size again.
I sit on a local Licensing Panel , what surprises me is the number of Taxi Drivers who have exceeded the points limit for speeding but apparently the Court did not take away their Driving Licence as its their lively hood.
We also have a Lord who exceeded his points limit think he was doing 110mph but he got away with it as he was Chair of the Playing Fields Association.
Obviously Carpet Cleaning is the wrong occupation or you had a bad Solicitor
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Neil
It's called minimising the risk.
John
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Hi
Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but just read this:
A criminology graduate was killed when she crashed her car after taking her eyes off the road to send a text message - an inquest has heard.
Tracy Wale was on her way to move into a flat with her partner when she collided with two cars on the A508, Northamptonshire in April.
Tracy, 22, who studied criminology and health at Northampton University, was also about to start a new job with Thames Valley Police.
Evidence suggested Tracy had driven into the path of oncoming traffic when she collided head on with first a Volkswagen Golf and then an Audi A6.
Martin
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After taking Advanced Driver Training I was in the company of a young scouser who " demonstrated " his amazing driving " skills "to me.
Problem was, he really believed what he was doing to be superior to any form of Advanced driving. He was a total muppet with serious and dangerous attitude problems and to make matters worse he'd just started working as a bus driver.
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It's called minimising the risk.
Can't dispute that.
It's a shame Ian G wasn't on the licensing panel for driving instructors, because they really do my head in around here. I saw another classic today, as I was stuck behind some kid finding out that real driving is nothing like those computer games. In the half mile I was stuck behind this kid doing 25 mph in a 40 zone I saw the instructor reach across and help steer the car away from the kirb and away from the wrong side of the road 4 times. Sorry but that kid is not yet ready to be out there on a public road and for a professional driving instructor he should know better too.
That's dangerous but I bet no police car has ever pulled one of these over and issued even a warning >:(
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i can drive with my knees while rolling a ciggy check me out
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Round where I live in the last 18 months it's been like
driving instructor city.
Every body and their mothers are driving instructors.
Last week the wife saw the learner driver on her mobile
whilst driving up our avenue.
John
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i can drive with my knees while rolling a ciggy check me out
;D
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I can drive from the top of my drive to the bottom , 15 metres !
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;D And use your mobile ;D
John
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At least you havent lost your sense of humour Jason, (sorry cant do smileys). I had a hands free in my old van but couldnt be bothered to change it over so I have a cable and ear piece.
Not now, I'm off out to buy a blue tooth head thing. I had one before but couldnt get my head round (sorry) the fact you tune it in so got the cable.
We have travellers near us, and even they have bluetooth earpieces now.
I wouldnt like to be the sales assistant trying to tell them how to work it.
Going back to the original post on this. We wouldnt think of getting into a car or van without putting on the seatbelt so why do we continuously go down the road with a phone stuck to our ears hoping we dont get caught.
And by 'we' I mean the public, little Tracy talking with her mates or Pete the plumber ringing the next customer to say he's on the way, we have all done it in the past.
John Kelly's post reminded me of something I did years ago while talking on hands free, I had to get across a wide dual carriageway so sat waiting to cross the traffic and had the van in gear, saw a gap and pulled away only to find I was in 3rd, not 1st!.
I hadnt time to drop it back into 1st, so I lurched, popped and banged my way across, only just made it, loads of flashing lights, hooters, etc etc scared the cr@p out of me. So its easy to do.
Off to the Orange shop now.
Murky
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Its a fair cop if you didnt learn anything from the previous 9 points you had then you deserve the ban. Nothing personal but there's plenty of people who lose there lives to dangerous and inconsiderate drivers every year and using your phone or handling your phone (not in proper control of your vehicle) whilst driving is inconsiderate and poses a risk to yourself and more importantly other road users.
You've been banned as a result of totting up points not just for using your phone which implies over a 3 year period you have committed several traffic offences.
In six months time you will have your licence back and no points
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my Daughter was in a car crash 2 years ago, she still suffers now despite intensive physio , why was she in the crash in the first place, yep you guessed the idiot in the other car was checking a text, if your banned you deserve, it dont cry just dont do it again, would you have come on here and cried if you had killed someone and would every one have said thats tough luck i think not, if i come across as harsh i mean too try seeing your daughter in pain cos someone thought it was ok to use a mobile and drive
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my Daughter was in a car crash 2 years ago, she still suffers now despite intensive physio , why was she in the crash in the first place, yep you guessed the idiot in the other car was checking a text, if your banned you deserve, it dont cry just dont do it again, would you have come on here and cried if you had killed someone and would every one have said thats tough luck i think not, if i come across as harsh i mean too try seeing your daughter in pain cos someone thought it was ok to use a mobile and drive
never had a single point on your liscence then andrew? well done mate, your a credit to society.
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no points on your licence is not a rarity Derek, I know loads with no points. Sadly I am not one of them - doing 37 in a 30 area, downhill (with a tail wind ;D).
My fault, knew the camera was there - its static, I am the one that was moving. Taught a lesson.
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no never had single point or been pulled over or fined, carpet cleaners are just as capable of killing someone as anyone else. i always figure that if u do the crime u do the time. just dont bleat about it as if you are some kind of martyr who has been wronged not true, due to their own fault after breaking a well established and published law they got burned just wait till a member of your family is hurt due to some idiot texting then come on here and be patronising
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Andrew, you probably not alluding to Geoff but just in case I want to point out I dont think he is bleating or looking for sympathy - he originally stated
"Be careful guys about using , or in my case HOLDING a mobile phone while driving"
bit of a reminder to us all I think, thats how I took it anyway.
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i think we are not seeing the bigger picture with jasons banning, putting aside the moral issues, the real topic of discussion should be...
what would you all do if next week you lost your licence?
for an example if you were diagnosed with certain types of epilepsy or had a inoperable blood clot on the brain you would have your licence taken away for medical reasons....how would you manage?
I'm awaiting an operation which will put me out of action for 6 weeks and unable to drive for upto 6 months and for the last 3 months I've been planning how i will manage.
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no never had single point or been pulled over or fined, carpet cleaners are just as capable of killing someone as anyone else. i always figure that if u do the crime u do the time. just dont bleat about it as if you are some kind of martyr who has been wronged not true, due to their own fault after breaking a well established and published law they got burned just wait till a member of your family is hurt due to some idiot texting then come on here and be patronising
so are you the perfect driver who never goes over the speed limit, never held something in your hand while driving, never checked out a womens backside while driving past. never tuned your radio in while on the move. or have you just not been caught, like joe says, he didn't spot the camera, maybe next time he won't spot the pedestrian,
luckily for jason no one got hurt from his actions, and a ban might be a kick up the ass for him as he obviously needs it due to the points he's got.
my point is we've all done silly things that we think are harmless until it has an impact on our lives. the fact of the matter is, we're all guilty of something that (wrong place wrong time) could of had a different outcome.
ps.... i have no points on my liscence, does that make me the perfect driver?. i consider myself very fortunate.
pps, i'm not condoning what jason did, but i'd be a hypocrit if i judged him
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my Daughter was in a car crash 2 years ago, she still suffers now despite intensive physio , why was she in the crash in the first place, yep you guessed the idiot in the other car was checking a text, if your banned you deserve, it dont cry just dont do it again, would you have come on here and cried if you had killed someone and would every one have said thats tough luck i think not, if i come across as harsh i mean too try seeing your daughter in pain cos someone thought it was ok to use a mobile and drive
Sorry about your daughter , I dont remember bleating about it at all, I was merely trying to remind people how easy it is to lose your licence , even though it has been 4 days it has been hard already , just so inconvenient for family members .
I have been overwhelmed with offers of help from forum members, who have shown genuine care about the situation in a non judgmental manner.
Does a cancer sufferer as a result of smoking deserve hospital care ? An alcoholic medical care ?
I am not asking for sympathy just helping others to see it can happen so easily, I guess that is what the criminal justice seeks to do , send out signals that it is socially unacceptable and very inconvenient to hold a phone whilst driving , hundreds of people will have read this thread , so they have been successful in my case.
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I think it's more three strikes and you're out in your case, having already stacked up 9 points. It's like saying he had 2 pints and dropped dead, although the 20 he had before that didn't help. ;D
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Jason would have known what to expect when posting on here, but went ahead, not for sympathy, but to remind everyone about the repercussions if you are caught breaking the law.
He's done many of you a massive favour by stimulating you grey matter to THINK not only about your bad habits but, as Mike H says " what if it happened to YOU "
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Jason would have known what to expect when posting on here, but went ahead, not for sympathy, but to remind everyone about the repercussions if you are caught breaking the law.
He's done many of you a massive favour by stimulating you grey matter to THINK not only about your bad habits but, as Mike H says " what if it happened to YOU "
I agree with you there Robert im looking at gettin one of those sun visor bluetooth gadgets because of this thread.
Does anyone know if there any good?
I dont fancy one of those earpiece things, I look enough of a t*t as it is ;D
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This is Jason's Mrs ;) saw this post and have been following the thread...........all the points made have been very interesting to read. As a registered nurse I am only too aware of the dangers of using mobiles whilst driving in any way. I have also learnt not to cast judgement on anyone with my job,,,,,,,,,,I see too much.
Have a question for you. How many of you have wives or partners that would be willing to drive you round from job to job if you lost your license for six months?
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i have, my gorgeous beautiful wife would drive me around, all though i'd have to start a tad later to accomodate the kids to school in the morning.
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i have, my gorgeous beautiful wife would drive me around, all though i'd have to start a tad later to accomodate the kids to school in the morning.
Same here Derek :)
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I have been reading this thread and am sorry for you inconvience this has caused you jason . although you knew you had the points. I am not going to be sympthetic because i can see thats not what your after. I think its acredit to your honest nature you come on here and tell us because i just thought it was a fine not points i now know better.
but i at the age of 21 was parked in a lay by on the side of the road and was hit head on by an 18 yr old doing 95 i had to be cut out he car but because the accident was on a remote stetch of road i was not discovered for over an hour and a half. i was having a forced snooze at the time so didnt kow much about it. the guy ho hit me left the scene on foot obviously and washe had a caught 2 weeks later a big drug problem. Now i spent 4 months in hospital and many months in and out due to my extensive injurys and i am very lucky to be alive .
now this chap because it could not be proved he was high at the time of the accident although he had previous for dealing and pocession put his running away down to shock and he got a £120 fine and lost his license fo 18 months .
i think some of the comments are a bit harsh on jason i for one have used my phone on the go as i am sure 90% of peops have at some point jason was just unfortunate he had the points already and in hein site prob wishes he had been more carefull
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If i sound harsh please read the following if i sound judgmental again please read
RoSPA has collected reports of 20 fatal road accidents where the use of a mobile phone by a driver (and in one
case a pedestrian) was reported to have been a factor.
1988 (actual date unconfirmed) Reported: Oct 20, 1988 Birmingham Evening Mail ;Driver leaned across to answer his mobile phone and swerved into the path of another car whose driver died instantly Fined £100 after admitting driving without due care and attention
September 1998 Reported: April 28, 1999 – Daily Mail; . .
May 1, 1997 – Western Daily Press
Driver using his mobile when he collided with and killed a child pedestrian
Fined £250 and ordered to pay £35 . costs after admitting careless drivingLiverpool Daily Post
Reported :May 21, 1997 – Telegraph October 1996 Driver was killed when he turned right while using a mobile phone, and was hit by another car.
Believed to be using the phone for work purposes .Verdict = accidental death
see how sympathetic the relatives of those people would be
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andrew
your obviously missing the point i am trying to make and understandably getting frustrated so i'll offer my deepest sympathy for any loss you have had and i'll leave it at that.
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i have got 9 points on my licence and consider myself to be very unlucky. after 25 years with a clean licence i got 3 points on 2 seperate occassion for doing 70 on the motorway in a 50 yes i was exceeding the temporary speed limit that was in place at the time but i try hard not to speed and it still happened to me , the last 3 points i had was coming out of cardiff at 2am 2 lanes either side of the road (not dual carriageway) speed limit 40 - 30 - 40 variable they got me doing 41 in the 30 spped cameras are revenue simple. if my mobile rings when i am driving i never answer it, i do eat whilst driving so am just as likely to get done for that . speed cameras are positioned in such a way as to catch out even the most carefull drivers so i have sypathy for people who are caught out with marginal speeding tickets due to minor lapses however i do think there is no excuse for using your phone whilst driving and i am amazed at the huge amount of people i see doing just that women offending more than men imo
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I bet a lot of you have thought about not being able to work whether it be driving license, physical disability etc I think its important to do other things to generate an income in addition to savings, but it's hard work and requires a lot of discipline, but the Mrs finally came round to it. ;D