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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: chopsie on November 16, 2010, 04:40:49 pm
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My auto brush has given up in more ways than one, Anyone use the prowindow fan jetted brush? are they any good? Or what brushes that are fan jetted does everyone recommend?
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Ahhh that's the one I looked at yesterday at my local cleaning supplier, was going to check the prices on-line but forgot the name, The one I looked at was very light and similar to an Ionics double trim however it was about 14" if I can get a 12" the I would definitely buy one.
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12" here http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_20_49_50&products_id=227
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Ahhh that's the one I looked at yesterday at my local cleaning supplier, was going to check the prices on-line but forgot the name, The one I looked at was very light and similar to an Ionics double trim however it was about 14" if I can get a 12" the I would definitely buy one.
What colour was the stock Chris, black or grey?
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It was either dark grey or black cant remember now, this is the one bit expensive though. http://www.hillbrush.com/products/B1791__PRO_WINDOW_305mm_LIGHTWEIGHT_WATERFLOW
Thanks chopsie.
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its black and useless
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its black and useless
I hope not....I have ordered one :-\
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its black and useless
Why?
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its black and useless
audly harrison ;D
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;D ;D
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Fraudly!! :D :D :D
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its black and useless
Why?
Bump?
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Hello,
I have two of the 12inch Pro Window brushes and they are very good indeed.
Infact I think they are the best brushes currently on the market.
Varitech's own design, which they had made by Vikan I think!
regards. :)
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thank god for that ;D I thought they were made by hills brushes (salmon)?
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Hey Chopsie,
dont worry, this is an excellent brush - very good for 1st cleans and does not seem to re deposit cr@p back
onto the window - i use this with fans for heavily soiled windows/frames and conny roofs.
i use the superlight for reg cleans.
if you the superlite then you will notice a big difference when using these as the bristles are quite square to the
stock so adjustment with the angled goosneck is more critical than with a superlite.
good brush tho - highy reccomend
Darran
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Pro window is Salmon brush i believe.
Darran
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I used to use a superlite with pencil jets. But then moved onto autobrush with fans and rinsing on glass, I much prefer this way of working and I am hoping this brush will be up for the job. Considered a superlite duel trim mono and getting fans fitted, but was talking considerable money. Wasted enough on the autobrush ::)
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Its a Salmon (hillbrush) brush, and a few suppliers have designed their own, which Hillbrush then make to spec.
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What happened to the auto brush - i was going to get 1 but Pete never got back to me, so got an aqua daptor
instead.
if you have spare fan jets put them into a superlite. - no extra cost. also get decent fan jets - the blue ones are the best for spray pattern.
Darran
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I just ordered aqua-dapter too.regards autobrush I e-mailed him last week after just the brush alone as bristles failed early after buying it. He has never replied, The autobrush mechanism does not work all that well anymore, It was always difficult turning on as not many windows i do are recessed. I did like the actual brush though (although never lasted long before outer bristles warped), was just going to use it with fans and aqua dapter but he never replied so went to another supplier.Also I lost a fan out of brush today hence needing new one asap.
I have also ordered some spare blue fans, But my superlite is a duel trim flocked so its not suitable for rinsing on glass is it?
are they blue jets already fitted in the pro window brush?
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I think some people use the flocked to rinse on the glass, but i think unflocked is better.
i got my pro window brush from cleaning spot and brought the fans from another supplier as it worked out cheaper.
if you buy already assembled then clarify fans before buying
DONT get those brass ones - they are rubbish, i got some to test and they dont fan the water at all well
and each one sprayed the water in odd directions.
Darran
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WCW have just got some of these brushes in but designed to their spec'. £20+ vat
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What happened to the auto brush - i was going to get 1 but Pete never got back to me, so got an aqua daptor
instead.
if you have spare fan jets put them into a superlite. - no extra cost. also get decent fan jets - the blue ones are the best for spray pattern.
Darran
Darran
Do you need to remove any bristles from the supalite (I use dual trim non flocked) to allow fans to spray correctly?
I have fan jets in a vikan but pencil jets in the supalites and would prefer to swap them to fans.
Cheers
Neil
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The first brush i converted to fan jets i cut out 1 'bunch' of bristles either side of the jet and shortend the next 2 inner
'bunches' to make sure the spray was not effected ( on this brush i had the fans flush with the stock. )
On my newer brush head i have pushed the jets further through - they are approx 10mm proud ( but they have never
touched the glass ) and these dont require any bristles to be removed.
this is for 40 deg fans - 60's would require some bristle trimming as the arc is wider and shallower.
Darran
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Thanks Darran
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no probs
Darran
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Hey Chopsie,
dont worry, this is an excellent brush - very good for 1st cleans and does not seem to re deposit cr@p back
onto the window - i use this with fans for heavily soiled windows/frames and conny roofs.
i use the superlight for reg cleans.
if you the superlite then you will notice a big difference when using these as the bristles are quite square to the
stock so adjustment with the angled goosneck is more critical than with a superlite.
good brush tho - highy reccomend
Darran
How do the superlite & pro-window compare for weight?
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Im a pencil jet guy but come to think of it i do wana give fan jets a go
just someone told me it can make a mess the water goes out and hits brick work etc and drip on the window but if you guys are saying no rinsing involved or less it sounds good.
Which brush shall i get i would like to buy the best on the market of course would like a slightly softer brush too. is the super-light any good?
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stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again
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What is so special about the aerial brush?
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stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again
I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay? ???
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Well my pro brush came today, It came with the cheap budget fans in it, I hooked it all up (why do brushes, in fact anything not come ready to go, had to put pipes on it and nick a Y piece off another brush ::)) and the fans did not seem to.....well....fan enough!! My auto brush fanned brilliantly. So it came with holes pre drilled at 12mm to fit other better fans in I bought, So decided to fit them, the holes were just too small so had to drill them out.
I also pulled a line of bristles out so they can actually fan. Tomorrow will be the tester. I wish they would make brushes ready to go properly with fans, tubing etc.
I think from using the auto brush, the fans are in the wrong place ,I do not think they will be as effective being in the centre of the brush like pencils, the autobrush has them near to the top with the second row in of bristles removed all but the last 3 on each end. I would of moved mine there on new brush, but there are already 4 holes in it So was not enough space to drill any more.
Oh and the brush is 12", superlites are 10". So when comparing weights this needs to be taken into account.
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Well my pro brush came today, It came with the cheap budget fans in it, I hooked it all up (why do brushes, in fact anything not come ready to go, had to put pipes on it and nick a Y piece off another brush ::)) and the fans did not seem to.....well....fan enough!! My auto brush fanned brilliantly. So it came with holes pre drilled at 12mm to fit other better fans in I bought, So decided to fit them, the holes were just too small so had to drill them out.
I also pulled a line of bristles out so they can actually fan. Tomorrow will be the tester. I wish they would make brushes ready to go properly with fans, tubing etc.
I think from using the auto brush, the fans are in the wrong place ,I do not think they will be as effective being in the centre of the brush like pencils, the autobrush has them near to the top with the second row in of bristles removed all but the last 3 on each end. I would of moved mine there on new brush, but there are already 4 holes in it So was not enough space to drill any more.
Oh and the brush is 12", superlites are 10". So when comparing weights this needs to be taken into account.
I ordered the one from WCW, it's the same brush (salmon/hillbrush) but made to "their" spec'. It's 11". Will see how it goes. I've got some specific work where I need a brush with little or no splay. I'm using the new super-lite 15 degree for everything else at the mo'.
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So which is the best fan jet brush i should get ;D?
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Crystal - get one of each!
the Pro - window is about 125 grams heavier and has more bristles - excellent for 1st cleans but the superlight cant be beat for regular maintence cleans and when going over big conny's at full stretch
Chopsie - have fun mate - they do work well on the brush centre line
Darran
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Hi Winp®oClean,
Just to answer your observation on the aerial brush, we've been using vikan brushes for the last 6 years. Gave the aerial brush a try a few weeks ago, now all our poles have them on.
It is a light weight small brush and the pictures on their site don't reflect how good this brush is. The splay looks outrageous, I thought like you did. BUT when pushed against glass cleans perfectly and easy to control, we have found it cleans the top edges and corners of frames more thoroughly than the vikan, also found when wiping the sill it cleans out that little gap with ease. It's a brush you have to try to realise how good it it.
Steve G
stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again
I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay? ???
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Looks a bit big for what I need, certainly not light either http://www.aerialbrush.nl/index.php?show=home :-\ :P
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;D ;D ;D ;D
Just look at the benefits though:
BENEFITS
Using the Aerial Brush you will experience significant benefits when compared to conventional cleaning methods for large façades:
1. Less impact on the environment. Use of osmose water means that far less detergents are needed.
2. Far better working conditions. No intensive manual work at height and no safety risks. The
operator controls the installation.
3. Minimal inconvenience. Up to 10 times faster than conventional cleaning methods.
4. Lower cleaning costs. The automatic system guarantees a well-controlled performance at low operator costs, with a beneficial return on investment as a result
5. Constant quality. Elimination of the human factor.
or you could try the smaller version: http://www.wfp-brush.co.uk/home
Steve G ;)
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What is so special about the aerial brush?
lots of things mate
it dont feel like you have a brush on the pole
you just move your magic wand and the windows are clean ;D
seriously thouygh mate it works very well im moving all my work to 4 day week
hope to have it done by feb
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stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again
I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay? ???
thats ok mate
its the other way round the aerial brush is more accurate to use
better than anything else i have used
difficult to explain but very very easy to use the brush
the only way to explain it
is its the only real wfp window cleaning brush you can get
i have been stopping myself from over cleaning windows all week
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Hi Winp®oClean,
Just to answer your observation on the aerial brush, we've been using vikan brushes for the last 6 years. Gave the aerial brush a try a few weeks ago, now all our poles have them on.
It is a light weight small brush and the pictures on their site don't reflect how good this brush is. The splay looks outrageous, I thought like you did. BUT when pushed against glass cleans perfectly and easy to control, we have found it cleans the top edges and corners of frames more thoroughly than the vikan, also found when wiping the sill it cleans out that little gap with ease. It's a brush you have to try to realise how good it it.
Steve G
stay with pencils mate and get the aerial brush
i thought i get behind with work this week because of the weather
had the aerial brush on this week and im in front
got just 3 jobs to do friday best brush i have ever used
i will never clean my customers windows with a vikan again
I don't know how experienced you are Alex so this is not a dig. I agree that the Vikans are too heavy (although lovely action with the flocked) BUT that aerial brush might be light but the splay looks outrageous!! Kind of, fling it about & hope for the best? There can be no accuracy at all with so much splay? ???
hi sure clean
i read your email on the site
Ive just got the black nylon brush not had a chance to use it yet
have you used yours yet and whats it like for first cleans?
cheers Alex
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Hi Alex,
Yes, we have used the black nylon for first cleans and found it a little quicker and more efficient than the vikan. However, unless the glass and frames are really bad we have been using the red nylon brush for all cleans and find it works great.
Good luck with your new brushes.
Steve G
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ok thanks steve
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Alex/Sure cleaning
(without starting a huge debate ;D)
I don't clean the top frame so I need a brush that is VERY accurate with the ability to bend back the top rows of bristles against the top beading. If you understand what I mean, would this brush still be suitable for such a method?
Regards
Winp
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you dont clean the top every time you mean ;)
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that
The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners
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you dont clean the top every time you mean ;)
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that
The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners
No, I mean I don't, never clean the top frame. Much of my work is country mansions, stately homes etc. Top frames aren't an option. Old paint, wood & sandstone don't mix well! ;)
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you dont clean the top every time you mean ;)
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that
The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners
What are you comparing the aerial brush to Alex? If it's just Vikans then almost any brush will seem perfect! ;D
I currently use
Superlite mono ST
Superlite mono DT
Superlite semi flocked DT 15 degree
I've got & used most of the Vikan range, a facelift, Unger flocked & a few salmons, probably some more but these are what spring to mind.
I've just taken delivery of the pro-window & upon a fondle I'm not impressed, at all! However, I'll try it tomorrow. First things that strike me are weight, a bent stock & the bristles seem stiff, I mean stiff as a board! ::)
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Hello,
I have two of the 12inch Pro Window brushes and they are very good indeed.
Infact I think they are the best brushes currently on the market.
Varitech's own design, which they had made by Vikan I think!
regards. :)
Hello All,
I want to apologise for giving out the wrong info with regards to the Pro Window brush.
I was told by someone at Varitech during the Cleaning Show at the Ricoh centre this year that they where made by Vikan. He was obviously trying not to let the cat out of the bag too much.
I have since found out that the Pro Window brush is actually designed and made by Hill Brush.
Again my apologies.
Regards.
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you dont clean the top every time you mean ;)
i know what you mean but you dont need to do that
you will have the window clean with the aerial brush which is mm perfect
by the time you mess around working like that
The brush is great mate any new people coming into window cleaning using these brushes
will be cleaning faster inside of 3 months than any experienced window cleaners
What are you comparing the aerial brush to Alex? If it's just Vikans then almost any brush will seem perfect! ;D
I currently use
Superlite mono ST
Superlite mono DT
Superlite semi flocked DT 15 degree
I've got & used most of the Vikan range, a facelift, Unger flocked & a few salmons, probably some more but these are what spring to mind.
I've just taken delivery of the pro-window & upon a fondle I'm not impressed, at all! However, I'll try it tomorrow. First things that strike me are weight, a bent stock & the bristles seem stiff, I mean stiff as a board! ::)
its compared to everything ive tried and brought
the superlites you metion the vikan and tucker more recently the hill branded brushes are all crap
I wouldnt use any of them now for window cleaning good for cleaning the van conserv roofs and sweeping the floor
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Which type of brush (aerial) are you using. There's a few to chose from ?
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BTW, I've now tried the pro-window, it's pants.
Bear in mind that this one was from WCW, they told me they have it made to their spec', (which is shocking if true) I don't believe this to be true. They told me it was 11", it isn't it's a full 12". They told me their jets can be fitted in the other holes, they can't, the holes are too big. The brush looks identical in every way to the standard pro-window brush ??? ::)
It is almost rigid it's that stiff, very poor. If it is indeed made to "their" spec' it leaves me with no confidence in any of their other products. Not that surprised to be honest, but disappointed that big suppliers are still selling total crap! ::)
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Mine is really rigid too, and I got mine from polar brite. I am sure the middle bristles will never touch the glass!!
I Suspect alex is some sort of plant from ariel brushes!! Does anyone else actally have any experience of these brushes?
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I think Pure Freedom had the same brush? Looks very similar to Gardiners Superlight but feels quite stiff and scratchy with the jets either too far apart or too close (can't remember) with two large holes in the stock for fans I suppose.
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Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!
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I think Pure Freedom had the same brush? Looks very similar to Gardiners Superlight but feels quite stiff and scratchy with the jets either too far apart or too close (can't remember) with two large holes in the stock for fans I suppose.
its the same brush by the sound of it
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Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!
I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.
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Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!
I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.
Snap Tim, I got it too. It's superb mate.
Just thought I would try some none-Gardiner brushes the last few weeks, was hoping for better but was dissapointed, big style! ;D
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Hi Chopsie,
I've been using the aerial brush for 4 weeks now, and have found it to be the best brush I have used in my 6 years of WFP. We have now converted all our poles with this brush.
Richard who sells these brushes is also a windows cleaner and knows his stuff. Like any product until you actually try it for yourself you will never know if it will be suitable for you.
Like any product there will be people who say it's fantastic and others who say rubbish. I like to improve my business and have tried many new products some work some don't. The only way to really know if something is good or bad is to try it for yourself.
Good luck
Steve G
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Been using this for a few weeks, its growing on me ;) as you can do sills with it, its the frquent use one. Dai came over for a look at the Ninja pole and gave me one of his swivels, here is what I did with it. Thanks Dai :)
(http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc114/JeffBrimble/DSCF0090.jpg)
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Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!
I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.
Snap Tim, I got it too. It's superb mate.
Just thought I would try some none-Gardiner brushes the last few weeks, was hoping for better but was dissapointed, big style! ;D
does the duel trim flocked 15deg have mono and flocked bristles? is it an good for rinsing on glass?
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Apparently, this pro-window (salmon hillbrush) had input in it's design from a big player in wfp, if this is what they come up with long live Alex Gardiner!!!!!
I just got the 15 degree flocked dual trim superlite brush in, it's 10/10 for feel!!! What an incredible brush. I will be doing a thorough review on it, but first need to get as much time in with it as possible.
Snap Tim, I got it too. It's superb mate.
Just thought I would try some none-Gardiner brushes the last few weeks, was hoping for better but was dissapointed, big style! ;D
does the duel trim flocked 15deg have mono and flocked bristles? is it an good for rinsing on glass?
I only just used it for my own house and it was getting dark. When I was finished I couldn't see anything anymore. I deliberately rinsed with the brush on, also on the lower ones. We will see tomorrow morning. :D
The inner trim is mono the outer trim is slightly flocked, but not as much as a let's say a Vikan.
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you will have to let us know how you get on with it, i have a ST MONO, which has been great for first cleans, but would be nivce to have a brush with a bit more give in it
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There are 2 types of pro window 12'', both the same brush type, the black one designed by Varitech,
with the space for fan jets, pencil jets and their goose neck.
Then theres the grey one which has goose neck settings for most goose necks, then 2 choices of fan jet holes and two choices of pencil jet holes, this was jointly designed by us and WCW, it is a good value universal brush, which like most thing's in this industry has positive and negative feed back, but on the whole we've had a good response.
due to the holes on the grey one, it is slightly lighter than the black one.
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There are 2 types of pro window 12'', both the same brush type, the black one designed by Varitech,
with the space for fan jets, pencil jets and their goose neck.
Then theres the grey one which has goose neck settings for most goose necks, then 2 choices of fan jet holes and two choices of pencil jet holes, this was jointly designed by us and WCW, it is a good value universal brush, which like most thing's in this industry has positive and negative feed back, but on the whole we've had a good response.
due to the holes on the grey one, it is slightly lighter than the black one.
After you designed it then got the first one back to try, didn't you think it was too stiff Craig? I struggle to understand how anyone of experience & in a position to have influence in a brush's design could get this back & think WOW, this is great! ???
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=100106.0
So its not for you, which is fair enough, but we use these brushes as a company, and have many happy customers who have purchased them.
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http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=100106.0
So its not for you, which is fair enough, but we use these brushes as a company, and have many happy customers who have purchased them.
Ok, I'm just surprised considering the circumstances. ;)
BUT
That's one person who uses hot & has cut it down ??? (of which I agree, 12" is too big)
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well your be pleased to know there will soon be a 9'' version, but will keep the 12'' as like i say many people like it, maybe you prefer the 11'' red valeting brush!!!
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I would of preferred it to be 10" same as superlites, But in a way I like it (so far) the stiffness of the bristles means that getting dried on bird muck is easy (or any dirt) I just hope that the windows are ok after brushing on glass. I have had no feed back this week. It is a pretty good brush,and so far I like it, But like I said earlier, I doubt the middle bristles will be able to touch the glass as the outer bristles are so stiff.
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I'm glad your liking thus far, we undertake many office contracts and many apartment blocks and have never had a complaint using this brush, just the complaints from the over 55's blocks asking how we are going to dry them!!!!.
The inner brushes do touch the glass as the outer bristles move outward, these brushes are by apointment of the queen (true) and are manufactured in the UK which is a great thing in this day and age, and we like to support this, hence why our polarvaks are also made in the UK.
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I use the superlite Dual Trim (the white one) didnt like it at first but i think its not a bad brush now!!
Just wondering whats the diffrence with the 15 degree one?
Also whats the diffrence between Flocked,Dual trim and single trim.. i have used wfp over last 3 years but i get confused only ever used 2 brushes
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Bump
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I use the superlite Dual Trim (the white one) didnt like it at first but i think its not a bad brush now!!
Just wondering whats the diffrence with the 15 degree one?
Also whats the diffrence between Flocked,Dual trim and single trim.. i have used wfp over last 3 years but i get confused only ever used 2 brushes
flocked=bristles have a crushed fluffy look to the ends
Duel trim=outer bristles longer than inner bristles on superlites, the outer bristles are flocked inner are mono
Single trim=bristles all the same length
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Which type of brush (aerial) are you using. There's a few to chose from ?
red bristle brush mostly
im going to get them all
including the bours haire brush and few more red bristle i will buy just the stock for £29
and use the jets, y connector from the other brushes
makes it cheaper when you can use all the other brush parts
so you dont need to buy more head attacment extensuion, scrapers etc
once you have a couple of these just but a new brush stocks
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I've looked back at your last posts, you mention this brush quite alot, must be something in the name, using forums to promote products, rather than paying for stands at a cleaning shows etc!
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I've looked back at your last posts, you mention this brush quite alot, must be something in the name, using forums to promote products, rather than paying for stands at a cleaning shows etc!
You're not suggesting a "plant" on CIU are you Craig? :o ;D ;D
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Scandlous !!! Im Craig I own Polarbrite, sometimes I talk about my products, we all know where we stand!! others are subtle in their promotions ;)
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I'm Winproclean, I like, use & talk quite a lot about some of Gardiner's products but unfortunately I can only dream about owning Gardiners! ;D
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Maybe a commision should come your way, surely some advertising gets paid for.
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Maybe a commision should come your way, surely some advertising gets paid for.
Good point! GARDINER ADMIN? :D
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I've looked back at your last posts, you mention this brush quite alot, must be something in the name, using forums to promote products, rather than paying for stands at a cleaning shows etc!
craig i do because its that good
how many of you manufactueres make brushes for us
with the tag line added made by window cleaners for window cleaners
then you give us a an almost identical brush to whats already available, no effort at all in that
ask most window cleaners what they want and its a lightweight sill brush with a scraper
none of you have bothered to make that because theirs no money in the brushes
you want to sell systems and poles for bigger money
tecbuk are listed as a manufactuere on window cleaning resources
why dont you contact them and sell the aerial brush
then maybe you wont be complaing about the comments
what you sell isnt a window cleaning brush the aerial brush is
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I have got a black pro-window dual trim brush and have never fitted it,when i apply it to glass by hand the outer longer bristles seem to bend over and cover the inside shorter bristles so they might as well not be there.
Now somebody tell me thats not true.
Its possible to manipulate the brush to get the inner bristles working but its not easy and thats at arms length!,no ,i repeat no chance on the end of a pole.
I am pig sick of the inefficient crap that is on sale,its no wonder wfp has a bad name around the houses.
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I have got a black pro-window dual trim brush and have never fitted it,when i apply it to glass by hand the outer longer bristles seem to bend over and cover the inside shorter bristles so they might as well not be there.
Now somebody tell me thats not true.
Its possible to manipulate the brush to get the inner bristles working but its not easy and thats at arms length!,no ,i repeat no chance on the end of a pole.
I am pig sick of the inefficient crap that is on sale,its no wonder wfp has a bad name around the houses.
Been there, done it all before. Recently had another stab at it & tried some different brushes. Verdict- No development at all. Same old, same old. ::)
I'll be sticking with Gardiners
Been using Gardiners for about 3-4 years now, in that time there have been massive developments, all in the right direction. The only product I didn't get on with was the superlite single trim mono brush-standard splay.
The new 15 degree DT semi flocked is the business IMO. I've got the new carbon goosneck & Xtreme brush quick release system all ready to go but can't get out because of the snow! :'(
If you want a real laugh, check out Unger's new multilink system! ;D
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I have got a black pro-window dual trim brush and have never fitted it,when i apply it to glass by hand the outer longer bristles seem to bend over and cover the inside shorter bristles so they might as well not be there.
Now somebody tell me thats not true.
Its possible to manipulate the brush to get the inner bristles working but its not easy and thats at arms length!,no ,i repeat no chance on the end of a pole.
I am pig sick of the inefficient crap that is on sale,its no wonder wfp has a bad name around the houses.
Been there, done it all before. Recently had another stab at it & tried some different brushes. Verdict- No development at all. Same old, same old. ::)
I'll be sticking with Gardiners
Been using Gardiners for about 3-4 years now, in that time there have been massive developments, all in the right direction. The only product I didn't get on with was the superlite single trim mono brush-standard splay.
The new 15 degree DT semi flocked is the business IMO. I've got the new carbon goosneck & Xtreme brush quick release system all ready to go but can't get out because of the snow! :'(
If you want a real laugh, check out Unger's new multilink system! ;D
you havnt tried the aerial brush mate
that brush is the only one thats had development
for it intended purpose
superlight i used is lighter and thats it nothing else good about it what so ever
its slower to use than the vikan brush
multilink is quality, but the price is a laugh
but if you need it the price shoildnt be a problem
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I have got a black pro-window dual trim brush and have never fitted it,when i apply it to glass by hand the outer longer bristles seem to bend over and cover the inside shorter bristles so they might as well not be there.
Now somebody tell me thats not true.
Its possible to manipulate the brush to get the inner bristles working but its not easy and thats at arms length!,no ,i repeat no chance on the end of a pole.
I am pig sick of the inefficient crap that is on sale,its no wonder wfp has a bad name around the houses.
Been there, done it all before. Recently had another stab at it & tried some different brushes. Verdict- No development at all. Same old, same old. ::)
I'll be sticking with Gardiners
Been using Gardiners for about 3-4 years now, in that time there have been massive developments, all in the right direction. The only product I didn't get on with was the superlite single trim mono brush-standard splay.
The new 15 degree DT semi flocked is the business IMO. I've got the new carbon goosneck & Xtreme brush quick release system all ready to go but can't get out because of the snow! :'(
If you want a real laugh, check out Unger's new multilink system! ;D
you havnt tried the aerial brush mate
that brush is the only one thats had development
for it intended purpose
superlight i used is lighter and thats it nothing else good about it what so ever
its slower to use than the vikan brush
multilink is quality, but the price is a laugh
but if you need it the price shoildnt be a problem
No disrespect Alex but your brush won't work for me mate. I clean windows only, not gutters too. ;D
If they want to send me one I'll try it, other than that I've learned from experience & spent too much buying crap!
Multilink is a joke & does nothing 2 x angle adaptors & a £4 swivel can't do better. It's time consuming, over engineered, heavy gear useful for maybe a tiny minority & only looks good from an engineering point of view. It's obvious they have no one on the tools who have input to these hideous contraptions!
One thing that never surprises me though is just how bad Unger get it wrong! ::) ;D
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I have got a black pro-window dual trim brush and have never fitted it,when i apply it to glass by hand the outer longer bristles seem to bend over and cover the inside shorter bristles so they might as well not be there.
Now somebody tell me thats not true.
Its possible to manipulate the brush to get the inner bristles working but its not easy and thats at arms length!,no ,i repeat no chance on the end of a pole.
I am pig sick of the inefficient crap that is on sale,its no wonder wfp has a bad name around the houses.
Been there, done it all before. Recently had another stab at it & tried some different brushes. Verdict- No development at all. Same old, same old. ::)
I'll be sticking with Gardiners
Been using Gardiners for about 3-4 years now, in that time there have been massive developments, all in the right direction. The only product I didn't get on with was the superlite single trim mono brush-standard splay.
The new 15 degree DT semi flocked is the business IMO. I've got the new carbon goosneck & Xtreme brush quick release system all ready to go but can't get out because of the snow! :'(
If you want a real laugh, check out Unger's new multilink system! ;D
you havnt tried the aerial brush mate
that brush is the only one thats had development
for it intended purpose
superlight i used is lighter and thats it nothing else good about it what so ever
its slower to use than the vikan brush
multilink is quality, but the price is a laugh
but if you need it the price shoildnt be a problem
Which superlite have you tried Alex?
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Multilink is a joke & does nothing 2 x angle adaptors & a £4 swivel can't do better. It's time consuming, over engineered, heavy gear useful for maybe a tiny minority & only looks good from an engineering point of view. It's obvious they have no one on the tools who have input to these hideous contraptions!
One thing that never surprises me though is just how bad Unger get it wrong! ::) ;D
Agree, £35 and not even a swivel ::)