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Title: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Lee Pryor on November 16, 2010, 12:10:02 pm
My new vac just arrived.

Its the 240v from tech clean and I must say im very impressed. the build quality is fantastic, especialy the metal trolly. the power is imense! we had the omni vac which has now died and I do believe this unit is more powerfull and better made than the omni vac we had.

It only comes with 2.5 meters of suction hose so off to B&Q now for a 10 meter length, if you have the ally tubes from omni pole you will need to ask for a rubber reducer for the hose to fit the pole.

Jan at tech clean is great to deal with. the price was only £380.00 including vat and delivery! A bargain if you ask me. cant wait to get cleaning with it.
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Steven Shoreditch on November 16, 2010, 12:38:30 pm
Got any pics for us?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 16, 2010, 01:27:35 pm
My 110v arrived the other day as well - just awaiting cables and connectors to try it out.  I'll post more as I get to have a play.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Darranvps on November 16, 2010, 03:06:35 pm
My new vac just arrived.

Its the 240v from tech clean and I must say im very impressed. the build quality is fantastic, especialy the metal trolly. the power is imense! we had the omni vac which has now died and I do believe this unit is more powerfull and better made than the omni vac we had.

It only comes with 2.5 meters of suction hose so off to B&Q now for a 10 meter length, if you have the ally tubes from omni pole you will need to ask for a rubber reducer for the hose to fit the pole.

Jan at tech clean is great to deal with. the price was only £380.00 including vat and delivery! A bargain if you ask me. cant wait to get cleaning with it.

Just saw you near B&Q around 1 pm give or take  :o
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: RO-Sheen on November 16, 2010, 03:44:20 pm
Got any pics for us?

Great stuff Lee. As well as photos can you put up a link for the unit you bought so we can see the spec? Also, you said it is well priced. How does it compare pricewise to the equivalent from Omnivac?
I'm looking into buying one so would be interested to hear?
Oh, If I do buy one I will tell them you recommended me to them.

Cheers mate
Adie
info@ro-sheen.co.uk
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: RO-Sheen on November 16, 2010, 03:45:14 pm
Got any pics for us?

Great stuff Lee. As well as photos can you put up a link for the unit you bought so we can see the spec? Also, you said it is well priced. How does it compare pricewise to the equivalent from Omnivac?
I'm looking into buying one so would be interested to hear?
Oh, If I do buy one I will tell them you recommended me to them.

Cheers mate
Adie
info@ro-sheen.co.uk
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Lee Pryor on November 16, 2010, 04:06:37 pm
sorry no pics yet, just google tech-clean and go to their products page, the list price is more than I paid so just ask jan for a discount.

B&Q didnt have the hose I neede but I got it elsewhere. you can ask jan to include a 10m hose and a reducer in the kit.

then you will need the ally tubes, clamps and end fitmentments to go in the gutter from omni pole (i have 3 different types) also a 5KVA generator and 50 meter heavy duty electricle reel, then your ready to go!

I have booked nearly £10,000 worth of gutter clearing jobs from my existing customer base in the last 3 weeks alone, to be done from the start of dec through to march, a bit of work on the phone goes a long way!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 16, 2010, 05:31:46 pm
My 110v arrived the other day as well - just awaiting cables and connectors to try it out.  I'll post more as I get to have a play.

Vin

what ye getting ?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Lee Pryor on November 16, 2010, 05:35:56 pm
Vin got the same as mine just the 110v version.
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 16, 2010, 05:36:47 pm
My 110v arrived the other day as well - just awaiting cables and connectors to try it out.  I'll post more as I get to have a play.

Vin

what ye getting ?

Mine's the 110v one from Tech clean.  It's a little smaller and a tad more expensive, but less likely to kill me.

I'll review it once I have everything here.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 16, 2010, 05:44:55 pm
380 ye say? that everyhting yeah ?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Dave Willis on November 16, 2010, 06:14:14 pm
Just the vac and normal cleaner tools wasn't it?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Lee Pryor on November 16, 2010, 06:36:53 pm
just the vac mate, already had everything else from the previous kit. trust me its a bargain for the build quality and power! I would estimate the entire kit to be £1500 and worth every penny!
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 16, 2010, 06:39:34 pm
so 380 for vac delivered? 1200 w on each motor yeah? what size genny you using
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: simon w on November 16, 2010, 08:10:40 pm


My 110v Tech Clean arrives tomorrow  :D gonna get my poles and accessories from Eastern Trading I will use it with a transformer and plan to get the generator at a later date.

Glad to hear the build quality is good  :)
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 16, 2010, 08:26:17 pm


My 110v Tech Clean arrives tomorrow  :D gonna get my poles and accessories from Eastern Trading I will use it with a transformer and plan to get the generator at a later date.

Glad to hear the build quality is good  :)

Simon,

Don't be tempted to scrimp on the generator.  I've been researching this and the cheap Chinese ones that are over the web like a rash are distinctly substandard and seem to last a few mnths before giving up the ghost.

Vin

Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 17, 2010, 08:35:57 pm
loncin ones ok ?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: btc on November 17, 2010, 08:57:09 pm
What are the pros or cons with going with either the 240v or 110v :-\
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: david washbrook on November 17, 2010, 10:41:24 pm
most commercial customers will only let you use 110v also if you use 110v and a gennie the customer doesnt have to be in also everything is self contained imo

dave
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 22, 2010, 01:37:17 pm
My new vac just arrived.

Its the 240v from tech clean and I must say im very impressed. the build quality is fantastic, especialy the metal trolly. the power is imense! we had the omni vac which has now died and I do believe this unit is more powerfull and better made than the omni vac we had.

It only comes with 2.5 meters of suction hose so off to B&Q now for a 10 meter length, if you have the ally tubes from omni pole you will need to ask for a rubber reducer for the hose to fit the pole.

Jan at tech clean is great to deal with. the price was only £380.00 including vat and delivery! A bargain if you ask me. cant wait to get cleaning with it.

so total cost with VAt and delivery what was the final figure
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Lee Pryor on November 22, 2010, 02:41:00 pm
as I said £380 for the vac
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 03:22:01 pm
Well, I'm just inside the house after doing my own gutters, which haven't been done in thje 14 years I've lived here.

Ran off my generator with the 25M extension I've made up.

It seems to be a mix of easy and hard.  Much harder work than my SLX; my shoulders will be aching again tomorrow.  At the same time, it took very little time to clear the whole house.  Even with my wife hanging out of the windows and getting me to pose for photos for my leaflet and website shots I reckon I was out there for about an hour and a half.  Actual gutter cleaning time with the vacuum on was about 20 minutes.  Twiddling with hoses and working out where to put poles while I adjusted them probably doubled that.  As mine's a three bed semi with no gable (i.e. three long lengths of gutter) that seems quite reasonable to me.  Also did the gutters on our extension (which I could look down into) and they look pretty damned clean for a first attempt.

Now I just need to work out how much to charge...

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 22, 2010, 06:33:48 pm
post pics befor eand after.
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 07:41:27 pm
Sadly, the wife was taking "during" pics - action shots with me from behind, over my shoulder, out of the window upstairs, me naked, etc.  So no "before and after".  Here are some "during"

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 07:44:02 pm
More...
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: landy2 on November 22, 2010, 07:55:36 pm
how does the vac get out hard stuck in mud out of the gutter
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: edward1 on November 22, 2010, 07:56:33 pm
looks good ,
looks heavy as well .can it work with a modular pole .
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Dave Willis on November 22, 2010, 08:04:24 pm
how do you lift that generator in and out of the van?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 22, 2010, 08:19:23 pm
Sadly, the wife was taking "during" pics - action shots with me from behind, over my shoulder, out of the window upstairs, me naked, etc.  So no "before and after".  Here are some "during"

Vin

where?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 09:00:26 pm
how does the vac get out hard stuck in mud out of the gutter

Don't know - this is my first use of it.

I suspect that you need to use it within a few days of rain so the stuff is softer.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 09:01:55 pm
looks good ,
looks heavy as well .can it work with a modular pole .

Each 12 foot section (two bits of tube) weighs just under 2Kg, so you know you're lifting it.

You can use anything you like as a tube, I suspect.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 09:03:21 pm
how do you lift that generator in and out of the van?

Once I'm using it at customers' sites, it's going to be in the van permanently with extension leads to the work.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 22, 2010, 09:11:11 pm
what genny ye using for yer vac?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 22, 2010, 09:18:22 pm
what genny ye using for yer vac?

See: http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=112593.0

Though judging by your reply on there, you're not really interested in my choice or reasoning, so here's a simple answer...

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: simon w on November 23, 2010, 08:21:34 am
My 110v arrived the other day as well - just awaiting cables and connectors to try it out.  I'll post more as I get to have a play.

Vin

what ye getting ?

Mine's the 110v one from Tech clean.  It's a little smaller and a tad more expensive, but less likely to kill me.

I'll review it once I have everything here.

Vin

Vin

I got the 110v Tech Clean vac. Did your come with a 32a 100v plug on it? mine didn't so I've had to put one on, also is your cable on your machine 2 core like mine?

Simon
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 08:32:02 am

Vin

I got the 110v Tech Clean vac. Did your come with a 32a 100v plug on it? mine didn't so I've had to put one on, also is your cable on your machine 2 core like mine?

Simon

Yep, I had to add the 32A plug and yes, it was two core.  On the thread I mention above - http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=112593.0 - there's a bit about my extension cable: I really don't fancy lugging the generator around.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: simon w on November 23, 2010, 09:06:58 am
Trying to source my extension cable yesterday and today looks like I might have to buy 100M of 4mm 32a cable and put some 32a plugs on them, I'm going to make them up into 25M lengths, will be speaking with a guy later who might be able to supply 50M.

Also need to get a 32a transformer now as I have just realised the one I had given to me was 16a 

I'm gonna use my customers electricity until I get a generator, but will only use this for jobs where 240v supply cant be provided.

Glad to hear your first job on your house went quickly, gonna need to sail through these jobs to make the equipment pay for itself 
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 23, 2010, 01:12:47 pm
tech clean vacs 32A?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: simon w on November 23, 2010, 01:27:25 pm
tech clean vacs 32A?

32a plugs and extention cable
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 23, 2010, 01:37:43 pm
how would that work genny being 16 a?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Jimmy Jon on November 23, 2010, 02:02:26 pm
Perfect windows - That's a nice generator you got there, about a grands worth new, Does it have a Honda engine and what did you pay for it on e-bay out of interest?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 02:09:40 pm
tech clean vacs 32A?

Take a vacuum's power and divide by the voltage to get the current handling capability you need.  So, a 3000W vac on 110V draws 27 amps.  The same thing on 240v would draw 12.5 amps.

how would that work genny being 16 a?

The generator will be rated by power, not current.  You need the power output to be enough for the vacuum.  It should have both 16A and 32A outlets if it's producing more than about 1,800 watts.  For any half decent vacuum at 110v, you'll need a generator with more than that.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 02:18:47 pm
Perfect windows - That's a nice generator you got there, about a grands worth new, Does it have a Honda engine and what did you pay for it on e-bay out of interest?

It has a Honda GX270 engine.

It was £450 on fleabay.  One didn't sell at a buy it now price of £350 in Newport in Wales and one for £300 in Sutton also failed to sell.  There are a few about at pretty reasonable prices, but you do need to be sure you're getting a good 'un.  I liked my seller, so I was prepared to pay a little more as it was still a bargain.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 02:21:17 pm
Perfect windows - That's a nice generator you got there, about a grands worth new, Does it have a Honda engine and what did you pay for it on e-bay out of interest?

Terry, might be worth dropping me a note - my email's on my website.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 02:29:30 pm

Glad to hear your first job on your house went quickly, gonna need to sail through these jobs to make the equipment pay for itself 


My house is probably around the £75 mark, so hopefully it won't take too long.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Dave Willis on November 23, 2010, 04:07:30 pm
Perfect, did the Locline change profile at all whilst you were sucking?
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 04:16:13 pm
Perfect, did the Locline change profile at all whilst you were sucking?

All the time; kept banging it back into shape.  I can see the benefit, but it's also damned fiddly.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Dave Willis on November 23, 2010, 04:42:38 pm
That's what I thought. I wanted to try it but the stuff we had for air blast in the print trade would easily change shape and got quite floppy with use. I use the u bend with clamps on my vac but although rigid it takes a few minutes of spanner work to alter the angles.
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 23, 2010, 05:11:38 pm
Electric start
Silent ( 76db@7m )
5.5kva 5.5kw
230v/110v Generator with automatic voltage regulation
25 litre fuel tank for up to 10 hours use
1x 230v 32 amp and 2x110v 16amp Industrial sockets
12volt 8.3amp DC outlet.
Mains power is protected by a circuit breaker and also fitted with a volt meter


seems the one i have only has 16a sockets
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: TomCrowther on November 23, 2010, 07:18:33 pm
I have a gutter vac working off a Honda Gen and the Gen vibrates so much it actually moves around quite a bit. So much so, when on the ground and running, I have to bungee it to the van! If I kept the Gen in the van when working it would shake it to peices.
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 23, 2010, 07:42:26 pm
Electric start
Silent ( 76db@7m )
5.5kva 5.5kw
230v/110v Generator with automatic voltage regulation
25 litre fuel tank for up to 10 hours use
1x 230v 32 amp and 2x110v 16amp Industrial sockets
12volt 8.3amp DC outlet.
Mains power is protected by a circuit breaker and also fitted with a volt meter


seems the one i have only has 16a sockets

On Sunday, you were only thinking of going for a Loncin (which I assume this is).  Are you now saying you have one, or are you still looking at what to buy?

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: JSMC on November 23, 2010, 07:51:26 pm
Electric start
Silent ( 76db@7m )
5.5kva 5.5kw
230v/110v Generator with automatic voltage regulation
25 litre fuel tank for up to 10 hours use
1x 230v 32 amp and 2x110v 16amp Industrial sockets
12volt 8.3amp DC outlet.
Mains power is protected by a circuit breaker and also fitted with a volt meter


seems the one i have only has 16a sockets

On Sunday, you were only thinking of going for a Loncin (which I assume this is).  Are you now saying you have one, or are you still looking at what to buy?

Vin

yeah bought one mate.
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 24, 2010, 08:22:00 am
Electric start
Silent ( 76db@7m )
5.5kva 5.5kw
230v/110v Generator with automatic voltage regulation
25 litre fuel tank for up to 10 hours use
1x 230v 32 amp and 2x110v 16amp Industrial sockets
12volt 8.3amp DC outlet.
Mains power is protected by a circuit breaker and also fitted with a volt meter


seems the one i have only has 16a sockets

On Sunday, you were only thinking of going for a Loncin (which I assume this is).  Are you now saying you have one, or are you still looking at what to buy?

Vin

yeah bought one mate.

In that case, if you've already got a 110V vac and it's above 1,800 watts, you have a problem.  If it's 240v, then you haven't.

If it's 110V, you might want to talk to an electrician about solutions.  From the spec you're quoting it looks like the generator can output what you need for 110v, but the sockets may not be up to the job.  A decent electrician should be able to sort you out.  You're at the limits of my knowledge now so you need expert help.  Can the people who sold you the generator help?

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: simon w on November 24, 2010, 10:37:49 am

Hi Vin.

I've got a question for you as I know you've got the same Tech Clean 110v Vac as I have. I'm almost ready to get started now I've got the Vac the transformer and I've made up 100M of 110v extension cable 34a 4mm Arctic grade into 4 x 25M lengths. Should be collecting the poles from an Ebay seller on Monday 40ft of aluminum poles plus the plastic gutter tools, the Aluminium one I'll have to source elsewhere.

I switched the Vac on last night for the first time using all three motors, I was a little surprised as I was expecting a little more power? how are you finding this, when you did your house how many motors were you running and are you happy the Vac's got enough power to cope with a heavily blocked gutter?

I'm looking at finding a suitable spike now for loosening compacted debris, have you given this any thought and will you be buying a spike to use with your set up?

Cheers
Simon
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Perfect Windows on November 24, 2010, 01:14:31 pm
Put it this way; I kept the nozzle away from the cats in case I lost one.

Vin
Title: Re: just got my new gutter vac!
Post by: Jimmy Jon on November 24, 2010, 10:01:01 pm
Hi Simon, You should be able to do most of your gutter cleans using only 2 motors, It's not that often I will have to use the 3rd motor but it's good to know it's there if you need it. I would recommend getting the aluminium gutter nozzle from omnivac, at fourty odd quid it's pricey but it's a bloody good tool. It get's right in the down pipes and can be used to break up any dried mud/debris in the gutter. Only good for gutters where the roof tiles don't overhang too much!  ::)