Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: mark mann on November 05, 2010, 11:59:51 am
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Hi guys
just a topical which was briefly touched on in a thread the other month -
for all year experienced long term wfp or trad guys and the newbies been going in last 12 months -
q- if you were starting again for the first time is there anything you would different?
;D
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One major difference I'd make is that I'd become a male escort instead of a window cleaner.
I'm obviously the best looking fella on here and with my looks, body and prowess in the bedroom I'd earn a sack full of cash 8)
By the way, if my wife comes on here to tell you any different she's very bitter and confused, honest ;)
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Yes, when canvassing new areas to work, I would have charged more for first cleans. Not much, maybe 15%. We charge between 50% and 100% now.
Also, I would have started everything on 6 weekly instead of 4 weekly. Changed everyone from 4 weekly to 6 weekly years ago.
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One major difference I'd make is that I'd become a male escort instead of a window cleaner.
I'm obviously the best looking fella on here and with my looks, body and prowess in the bedroom I'd earn a sack full of cash 8)
By the way, if my wife comes on here to tell you any different she's very bitter and confused, honest ;)
;D ;D ;D
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the only thing i would do differently is i would not have gone out collecting money.
i only collect from two small ares now and thats only because they expect it (because the guy i bought the work from always collected friday nights) and if i did not go i would never get paid from them :'(
It only takes me 1 hour, friday evening every 6 weeks but it still winds me up >:(
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I borrowed money from my brother to have the rounds he was selling. I paid him back every month then an it was reduced which made it easier to pay my own bills and have any money left over. It was a big juggling act. Very quickly i knew id made a massive mistake and tried to sell the work which id bought. Found out i would struggle to get the money back quickly so i sold it.
Now ive paid the money off and built my own round with better prices and better customers. Since april ive built up £2k a month of new business and still going steadily.
Danny
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I borrowed money from my brother to have the rounds he was selling. I paid him back every month at £1k then reduced to £500 which made it very hard to pay my own bills and have any money left over. It was a big juggling act. Very quickly i knew id made a massive mistake and tried to sell the work which id bought (Didnt know anything about round prices just believed i was getting a good price). Found out i would struggle to get the money back that i owed so i built smaller rounds to sell to pay the debt off.
Now ive paid the £25k off and built my own round with better prices and better customers. Since april ive built up £2k a month of new business and still going.
Lessons to be learnt are never to trust anyone in business
Dont work with family (can be complicated)
how much pa was the work worth?
Do your homework well before committing
Danny
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I presumed it was abit more than i had but a few cancelled with a few bad accounts
I had one customer owing £42 on a £2 a fortnight clean.
danny
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danny are u platinum or is ur brother platinum, as i know a women in st helens who owns her wc £50 and it is only a terrace houses
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I presumed it was £3k a month but because of the debts that customers where left with because my brother didnt collect regularly i had a few cancel so when done with there was £2,500 roughly.
I had one customer owing £42 on a £2 a fortnight clean.
danny
you paid £25k for £30k worth of work! man thats bad, and your own brother, what a scumbag.
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the only things i would change is i would knock the first week every day from 10 -8 and then knock every night from 5- 8 for 3 months and do the cleans in the day, i didnt knock enough when started,
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He did have someone to buy the work but i said id have it if i could pay him monthly and thats the agreement we came to. i was only abit younger and didnt really know anything about business or round prices so i was just trusting i got a good deal. When i struggled to pay the money my brother did reduce the payment. To be fair i did really want the work and did a bit of mithering to get it but after a month or so i regreted it because it was difficult. Ive learnt a lot from it though especially how to keep the costs low and run efficiently.
Since i started in april its been easy because of that experience even though i regret it ive learned loads from it
Danny
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u got ripped off mate,
i would of just give him the work back saying get stuffed
i cant believe that work is going for 10 X in st helens, espically £2 houses, and espically from your brother
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1. should have taken up this game a few years earlier than i have.
2. With WFP had 6/12 wky cycles rather than 4/8/12
Darran
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u got ripped off mate,
i would of just give him the work back saying get stuffed
i cant believe that work is going for 10 X in st helens, espically £2 houses, and espically from your brother
Your right but the way i seen it i wanted the work and he had a cash offer so i paid extra for work i wouldnt have otherwise been able to afford. In the end he let me off with some money and ive paid it back and im now very profitable. I had a construction company i set up at the time but i couldnt get a job becuase i knew f*** all about construction and we had no trading record. I had £500 of work i had before i sold the last round and am canvassing every week.
In contrast im buying a small round locally worth £100 a fortnight for £400.
danny
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go straight for carbon fibre poles dont waste money on crap fibreglass
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yeah wish id started straight from school, and not wasted 20 years of working for peanuts.
id be minted by now!
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wouldnt buy a trafic , vivaro or primastar
ever still wishing ida brought a smiley
transit :(
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I WOULDNT CHANGE ANYTHING,im perfect
bob :-* :-* :-*
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yeah wish id started straight from school, and not wasted 20 years of working for peanuts.
id be minted by now!
Yeh!! me to.
If I had to put it all together again I would without any doubt only use a top carbon pole. Other than that it worked once so theres no reason it won't work again.
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Hi guys
just a topical which was briefly touched on in a thread the other month -
for all year experienced long term wfp or trad guys and the newbies been going in last 12 months -
q- if you were starting again for the first time is there anything you would different?
;D
Yes. Quite a bit of it if I'm honest. Bear in mind there was no internet when I started though.
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work more, laze less.
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Thanks to this forum not really much I would have done differently ... only mistake I made was going in for a website that was designed to be future proof i.e theres a lot of stuff on there that I dont do or now never will like domestic cleaning / eot cleaning and too little on it about window cleaning.
Best bit of advice I got on here was minimum pricing which gave me a pricing level to work from.
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pricing! ::) ::)
im still cleaning a lot of cheaper work but its very compact!my prices are a lot better for newer work though.
i would of gone wfp sooner if id of known about it and i really shouldnt of bought a fibre glass pole!! ;D ;D ;D
we all make mistakes its the only way we learn!! ;) ;D ;D
ive got to admit after 16 years im really starting to build a much better business!better late than never!! ;D ;D
round software as well.miles better than a pen and notepad!! ;) ;D ;D
dazmond
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I did start again in March this year!
What I did different from the very 1st time I setup, was to sort out insurance, health and safety stuff etc, built a website, complimentary stationary, got a van with all equipment, then I began chasing commercial customers - no domestic.
Now 8 month's later, we already have 2 vans, some nice work up and down the country and we have some good contacts for future work.
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Darren my wife Saw you in Hook yesterday, she said you looked very professional.
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go straight for carbon fibre poles dont waste money on crap fibreglass
Same here.
Wish I'd had carbon poles right from the off & better brushes. Also wish I'd realized that many suppliers haven't a clue about wfp & will sell you anything! ::)
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Darren my wife Saw you in Hook yesterday, she said you looked very professional.
Hi Thanks for that, we are :P
Have a great day!
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darren is the work all priced well?
you have done extremly well in a short period of time pal.
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the only thing i would do differently is i would not have gone out collecting money.
i only collect from two small ares now and thats only because they expect it (because the guy i bought the work from always collected friday nights) and if i did not go i would never get paid from them :'(
It only takes me 1 hour, friday evening every 6 weeks but it still winds me up >:(
hi can i ask how you collect your money now thanks mark
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would take more time before buying kit ask more questions check out the market more
brought a lot of stuff without doing enough investigation and research on what was avaliable before parting with my readdies
wasted a lot of money buying the wrong equipment
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Would go straight to van mount, spend what needs to be spent not try and scrimp and save on silly trolleys crappy poles and even worse Ro systems -_-
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when i was buying bigger van
would of either transit or transporter
no trafic vivaro or primaster :( :( :(
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when i first started,just about 2 yrs ago,a local guy offered me his whole round,vans ,men,the lot. still wonder if i should have bought it !
instead im now sloggin away alone, wondering just why am i doin this full crazy round ::)
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darren is the work all priced well?
you have done extremly well in a short period of time pal.
Hi,
I think it is priced OK, the main thing is we are happy with what we do and we always ensure it is profitable. We try not to take on too much work that is less than 2 men a day.
We have trained (in my case re trained) in IPAF, CSCS, PASMA, NVQ Level 2 (although still waiting for the certificates from impact 43) We are all CRB checked. All of which gives the customer confidence that we can do what we say we can.
One of the main things for me is that I have time on my hands to chase up new customers, which obviously helps a great deal.
My wife is actively involved within the business, although she doesn't clean windows, she does the accounting etc, and will shortly do a NEBOSH course, which I think will help us a great deal in the future.
In any business it is always important to set your goals from the outset, and work towards achieving them. Once reached, set yourself higher goals...............
Always ask yourself.........
Is it that I can't or is it that I won't?
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Forget the trolley and cheap poles.
Go straight for van mount and SLX pole .
Mr B
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Hi guys
just a topical which was briefly touched on in a thread the other month -
for all year experienced long term wfp or trad guys and the newbies been going in last 12 months -
q- if you were starting again for the first time is there anything you would different?
;D
have a plan
rather than an idea then make things up as i went along ::)
good thing about a plan is you can start anytime ;)
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I was trad for about 6 years, when life was simple lol. Now WFP for past 4 - 5 years.
The first mistake was getting a trolley, did my back in real bad. Van mount all the way.
Second mistake, spending loads of dosh on posh vans, sign wirtting and equipment.
Yeh it looked smart, but didnt earn me any more money. I sold the vivaro and havent really spent a penny since. Harris poles at £15 a pop have been the biggest money saver ever. I was spending £120 on xtels that would wear after 3 - 4 months. Harris last ages! Last one lasted me a year and it was only top section spinning.
In the other vans i had 2 pumps and 2 varistreams. Now all i have is 1 pump, and its been pumping 2 reels for year and a half now no bother. No varistream just a tap and run back to tank.
I coulda setup for less than £500 years ago bought a good enough van, pug partner or maybe a dispatch or even a old transit for £1000 - £1500...instead i spent around £15k on 2 vans, equipment, bit here bit there etc etc etc.
Learn from your mistakes tho dont you. I still wish id kept my old Partner and plodded on in it, but had bigger plans with the Vivaro, but nothing really changed.
If it aint broken...dont fix it.
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I was trad for about 6 years, when life was simple lol. Now WFP for past 4 - 5 years.
The first mistake was getting a trolley, did my back in real bad. Van mount all the way.
Second mistake, spending loads of dosh on posh vans, sign wirtting and equipment.
Yeh it looked smart, but didnt earn me any more money. I sold the vivaro and havent really spent a penny since. Harris poles at £15 a pop have been the biggest money saver ever. I was spending £120 on xtels that would wear after 3 - 4 months. Harris last ages! Last one lasted me a year and it was only top section spinning.
In the other vans i had 2 pumps and 2 varistreams. Now all i have is 1 pump, and its been pumping 2 reels for year and a half now no bother. No varistream just a tap and run back to tank.
I coulda setup for less than £500 years ago bought a good enough van, pug partner or maybe a dispatch or even a old transit for £1000 - £1500...instead i spent around £15k on 2 vans, equipment, bit here bit there etc etc etc.
Learn from your mistakes tho dont you. I still wish id kept my old Partner and plodded on in it, but had bigger plans with the Vivaro, but nothing really changed.
If it aint broken...dont fix it.
what an open honest assesment and statement and your comments kinda strike a chord with me - i havent been too bad with the wc kit i started out with and what ive spent has been stuff that helps you keep making money rather than the luxuries (tho i look forward to affording carbon fibre poles) - im in my 40s now and whilst its not window cleaning i remember spending thousands on designer clothes - and think how much dosh id have it i hadnt wasted so much dosh on them - im thinking the same with my window cleaning biz - if its essential or an ideal purchase then yeah but not for vanity sake.
thanks for all replies on here but really liked this one
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No problem mate, well im only 25, so ive made my mistakes early mate. I kick myself for doing it now and am still paying for them, grrrr.
By time im 30 i want to be well sorted...which i will ;)
Such a shame i spent so much on equipment, made no odds, i work out of a Ford Galaxy, cheap setup...still looks tidy obviously. Ive had some of my best days in it.
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When i was traditional i dropped streets of lead and georgian houses because i hated doing them. Now i'm wfp i wish i still had them all.
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u got ripped off mate,
i would of just give him the work back saying get stuffed
i cant believe that work is going for 10 X in st helens, espically £2 houses, and espically from your brother
IF I WAS YOU BLUE MONKEY I WOULD GET THE FACTS FIRST BEFORE SHOOTING YOUR BIG MOUTH OFF!!!
I WOULD TELL YOU THE STORY BUT IT IS TOO LONG AND I DONT NEED TO JUSTIFY MY BUSINESS TO YOU.
I HAVE NEVER BEEN PLATINUM ON HERE ITS ALWAYS BEEN WRIGHTY AND I HAVE A GREAT REPUTATION ON SUPPLYING VANS AND SELLING WORK TO FORUM MEMBERS
YOUR MOUTH MIGHT GET YOU INTO BOTHER ONE DAY
DAN, IF YOU AGREE WITH MONKEY BOY YOU SHOULD TELL ME TO MY FACE INSTEAD OF ON HERE AS YOU WOULD HAVE HAD NO BUSINESS OR JOB IF I SOLD MY BUSINESS TO THE CASH BUYER INSTEAD OF WAITING YEARS TO GET THE MONEY FROM YOU!!!
Craig
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chill winston, dan said he would do things differently, He was not having a go at you, more having a go at himself :-*
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Chopsie,
I have read he agreed with silly monkey that he got ripped off which is far from it. I should have more respect shown to me for building a successful cleaning company from scratch and selling it 7 years later and helping someone to be in charge of their own earnings and time instead of agreeing they were ripped off.
if you was offered £20k cash straight away would you take that or sell it interest free in instalments?
Not many people would do what ive done and I dont know anyone who would do it for me.
my name isnt Winston is it?
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from what i have read mate, you did him a favour letting him have it in installments, you could of just took the cash off other bloke, He does say you let him off some in the end and he now has a very profitable business. I did not read it as having a go at you, Just that he struggled to start with and would do things differently if starting again. Makes no odds to me what you two arrange between each other, Its none of my business, I was just trying to diffuse the situation(dont know why, I must just be bored of Sunday telly). As for "chill Winston" Its a line from either lock stock I think, or maybe Snatch. I just use it quite often cos I am dead funny :P ;D
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I know what you mean about sundays. I had a Cleaning Business for years and I have made a few friends on here and sold work and vans together with equipment.
I dont think financials and business agreements should be publicised on here as it shows how amateur some so called business people can be and the maturity of them.
I should do a post called IF I WAS SELLING AGAIN.
He has rubbed a few up the wrong way on here and changed names a few times. Mine has always been Wrighty from day one as you can see if you check out my profile.
My Company was called Platinum Contracts but my name on here has never changed.
I like that saying Winston Ha Ha
Craig
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You need to hear the way he says it, in a jamican type accent ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGWEI390Pe8
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He certainly like that saying doesnt he ;D
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not helped all the local window cleaner's into wfp .... id of had every house in my area now lol ... ;D
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HEY DIRTY WINDOWS JUST WATCH WHOU YOU CALL SCUMBAG!!!
AGAIN ANOTHER TIT SHOOTING HIS MOUTH OFF NOT KNOWING THE FACTS
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Don't get me wrong wrighty but why don't you explain your side a bit then instead of shouting abuse back at people. At first what your brother says does sound like he was ripped off as he paid an extra 5k for some work, its only when you read between the lines that you discover that he actually bought it on the tick.
Do you and your brother not get on or something? Not being funny like but your slagging each other off on a public forum and it don't look good.
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wrighty, so who is platinum clean north west or PCNW, as i alwasy thought it was danny and then got told it was his brother, and then he was leaving to have a building company, as there was a lot of confusion from a lot of people of who was who, as people where always claiming to be someone else,
what is ur side of the story, but i can only give opinions on what people put on here, said he payed 25000 for 2500 worth of work, which to me is very expensive,
i cant understand why u didnt take the 20000 cash over monthly payments, i would of took the cash and then helped your brother build a round,
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Blue Monkey,
I have been Wrighty and Wrighty only on here for some time as you can see from my profile. Dan has been GCS, PCNW, Platinum North West, Platinum Contracts.
The confusion may be that my company was called Platinum Contracts.
To give you a good Idea of whos who you should speak to Ronnie Paton.
firstly, my company was established for nearly 7 years built by me from scratch. Work was well priced and top quality as Ronnie will tell you as he bought some commercial and domestic from me.
I dont agree in how he can say he got ripped off as you can see I was offered cash for the work he bought which was about £3200 per month. He knew what the work was as he cleaned it everyday for years from leaving school as I employed him so he had a better insight into the work I was selling better than anyone. He lost customers for whatever reason I dont know but rather than leave him with no job I turned down cash and let him pay me monthly then silly me reduced the installments to further help him. Without me doing this he would have had no job and no money so as I see it I had set him up in business without him outlaying big money that he never had and I also give him the tools to do the job including buying him a van.
He lives with my mum (i dont believe in giving figures as to what he pays but its next to nothing)so how he could not afford to pay me back the original £1k per month is beyond me and to be honest he started to run it into the ground since I sold it but it was solid when I had it.
He later tried to sell work that he still owed me money for and keep it so who is the villain?
Deffo not me. I could go on but we still speak but I dont think he knows I still come on here to see whats going on. I cannot believe what has been potrayed and to give figures out publicly is bizarre, like I say it shows what a good business man he is.
He has rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way on here and I think its the reason behind the name changes.
All I can say is my reputation in business speaks for itself not just when I had the cleaning company and I have sold vans to people on here and developed good relationships.
When I sold my last round I encouraged the new owner to come on here as it gives inspiration to you I feel when you are in this trade.
All I can say is I am Wrighty and thats what it will be in years to come.
I would now be interested in your view now you know the facts.
Finally the reason I didnt help him to get a round from scratch is because I had all the best bits and had no time to help him start up due to my business commitments, so I done him a favour and this is what I get.
£25,000 included about £3000 of debt that he collected and spent so this would of been a good injection of cash if used properly. Yes he did have an idea to start a building company but it never got off the ground so from leaving school all he as done is work for me cleaning windows domestic and commercial and builders cleans. Thats why I cannot believe he agrees he got ripped off. Without me he would have had no job in the first place, no funds to buy a van never mind the business. I am involved in a number of businesses and thought this would give him a good footing for future income etc but in my opinion he fell at the first hurdle.
A good example of what I think happened is when I was at school I delivered milk. When I left a few years later I had my own business delivering milk. The difference is at school I loved it but when it was my own I began to hate it as it was much harder running the business and not just doing a job and I think he experienced the same with this.
Craig
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Just shows, two sides to every story.
Wrighty, your brother, is he a mummy's boy, maybe a tad spoiled? ;D
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Hi,
Well Its not for me to comment really but he should not go divulging business in public it is totally unacceptable.
I think it is a private matter but he has choosen to make it public and come out with some silly comments but I hope my side clears the matter up to the forum members.
Craig
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Hi,
Well Its not for me to comment really but he should not go divulging business in public it is totally unacceptable.
I think it is a private matter but he has choosen to make it public and come out with some silly comments but I hope my side clears the matter up to the forum members.
Craig
Hiya Wrighty, I don't read it that he is slagging you off. He did make a point of saying he mithered you for the work and that you had a cash offer of 20k which you turned down so he could have the work. He also said you dropped the payments from 1k to £500 a month when he couldn't afford them.
I think its more a case of he just wishes he had done things differently.
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Hi Davids,
Possibly but what could he do with no money or job and no lending facilities?
You cannot start a business with none of the above
He did mither but he still got a ready made profitable business and the tools to go from day one so how can he look back and regret it as he says.
his choices was my business which was fantastic or the dole?
if you look back he agrees with someone that he got ripped off which I think is nonsense and I think the person saying I ripped him off will see diferently when they read my post.
I strongly disagree with him publicising what we agreed and I dont think that going public and making the comments and agreeing he got ripped off shows any gratitude to me.
It is simple that without me he would not even have transport never mind a thriving business I built up for years for him to buy in instalments then run into the ground.
If I had of taken the cash offer he would have had no job, no transport, no equipment and no business making the good profit. He was instantly quids in making profit from day 1 so you tell me if you had a business taking £3200 per month approx not afford to pay me £1k per month with little overheads? He also had £3k of debt to collect that he never cleaned to add on to his first month so if effect his first month would have been £6200. I didnt ask him for the other £3k I just included it onto what we agreed of which you know is £25k so in month one like i say he had a great cash flow to work with etc but over time he seemed to lose custom which you can accept but you always pick up more
When he was my employee he never collected etc so it was a big shock to suddenly have a good business and good income.
All this 4 x monthly clean etc is b******s. Its worth what its worth.
as an example I was going to buy a cafe we all used to use when I was cleaning windows.
building cost £100k business £25K
total £125k
business profits £100 pw
I declined to proceed as you can expect.
after hearing my side and answering your post
1, Does it sound to you he was ripped off as he agreed with Blue Monkey
2,You tell me am I the Scumbag as described by DIRTYWINDOWS
I believe these comments are said due to Dans portrayal of our deal which should have been kept private
I look forward to hearing your views.
Craig
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I read the comments and the giste i got was that he felt a bit sorry for himself.I didn't take it that he blamed you.He plunged himself into debt and you turned down a cash offer to favour him.You also let him drop the payments he'd agreed.
I took it that he'd bit off more than he could chew.I didn't take it that he was trying to make you look bad.
My opinion as a neutral is that you were a good brother and he now has a good business.I can understand you being annoyed.I hope you can sort it out and remain friends.
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Heres my view,this was an excellent thread,now its all about YOUR ego. Kettle calling the pot black if you ask me when you mention a lack of professionalism.
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Slumpbuster,
Me and our Dan wont fall out over it - in fact I dont think we will even speak about it but his comments came across and must have made me look bad for me to be called a scumbag and a rip off merchant and then he agrees with them.
He has washed his dirty laundry in public a bit I think.
Sean I agree it has gone completely off topic but again my ego is massive :P
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I`m going to have a massive ego tommorrow and be the worlds greatest window cleaner/businessman when i do my first customers for the 2nd time (6 weekly). Now if i had bothered to get some customers in between i already would be the top man but i got a bit distracted though i reckon coming on this forum every night still counts as progress.
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i said ripped off as from his story it came across as he paid 10 times what something was worth then lost most of it
i apologise,
it seems he lost a lot of work because of himself, and this might be why he had a lot of name changes,
he shouldnt of heard his washing in public,
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Sean,
You wont go far wrong on here mate as there are loads of knowledgeable people on here to help you.
Even though I'm not in the industry anymore I also help you all I can if need be.
Blue Monkey
Your apology is very welcomed and accepted.
A few comments from people saw there is no harm in what hes said but Dirty Windows called me a scumbag so that is proof its come across in a way that I done the wrongdoing.
Glad its sorted and the name changes are clarified.
Craig
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Think I would have started out with a bigger van from the start and spend more time kitting it out before starting to use it.
Also wish I had started WC about 10 years earlier when I first thought about doing it.
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I think Starting earlier than what you originally did is something everyone in window cleaning will be saying.
with the current climate I think businesses will be worth a lot more as construction has slowed right down and to canvass a good compact round is difficult as a lot of people being laid off etc are turning to window cleaning cos they think its easy.
Someone with a good head on their shoulders would make a killing at this
Its a case identifying the opportunity at the right time i guess
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I think Starting earlier than what you originally did is something everyone in window cleaning will be saying.
with the current climate I think businesses will be worth a lot more as construction has slowed right down and to canvass a good compact round is difficult as a lot of people being laid off etc are turning to window cleaning cos they think its easy.
Someone with a good head on their shoulders would make a killing at this
Its a case identifying the opportunity at the right time i guess
Do you mean non stop canvassing and selling ready made businesses?
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ive just this week started so i guess get a van and not go round in a mx5 convertible lol even tho my poles and kit fits in it just lol ;D
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What Im saying is it is very hard to canvass a good compact round like it was in 2000 - 2007 and those who are lucky enough to have a good compact round already should find that their work is now worth more.
It is possible and I dont want to give off negative vibes for new starters at all in fact I wish you all good luck, but it is now more difficult now to build a round from scratch of good quality compact work than it was years ago with construction booming etc and I have a very good sales and marketing background so I would say anyone starting in this business with limited funds is to go out get stuck in to door knocking and build a good a round as possible and when you are richer buy up what work you can.
Craig
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Where has our Dan gone (G3ST Cleaning)???
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wrighty i would liketo personally say that the work i bought off you was top quality and the more sites you said about have well and truly come off to the degree that im well in there.
i think i bought three sites of you and i now have 10!!!
all though the residential was not has good(in growing or keeping) i believe this to be down to a change of owner, your employees standards not so good, the hard times were in and me have staff to do most of the work.
i paid 10x and i have to say well worth!!
has for your brother......you know my thoughts
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Yawn................
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When i was traditional i dropped streets of lead and georgian houses because i hated doing them. Now i'm wfp i wish i still had them all.
snap, the price would have been good with wfp
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It all depends on what your goal is in my point of view.
I am quite young, 25 years. Started with running a company as 18 year old.
Learned a lot the earlier years - was running a company with several that was 30ish.
We were running a tech company that developed stuff.
But my life was all about work and parties. That life I do not want again. Then I tried to be a regular employee for 6 month - was going to write a long lasting contract, but a guy that I knew a bit called me just when I was going to sign - if I wanted to work for him.
After some rounds with my self - I thought "why not just start my own company again".
So now I have been running this for almost 2,5 years. I have learned a lot, in these two years also.
I like expensive cars, so I went down that road. Have learned my lesson there.
If I were doing this all over again there are something’s that I would do on another way:
- Start with really good software (like service ceo) and some good accounting software.
- Also hire someone to do everything with invoices and stuff like that.
- Just sell all the time to commercial, and checkup what the employees are doing.
- If i were going to residential - I would have a really good webpage with form that they have to sign contract and everything. Less paperwork than signing written contracts.
- Get a proper uniform as soon as possible.
There are a few thing there, something that are good to start with....
There are of course a couple of things more that you just have to learn the hard way ;)
And yes, I also went WFP recently - Nice thing.
But do NOT buy van mount and a trolly...... The trolly have only been tested one time.....
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Gone Wfp straight away.
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Hey Ronnie,
I am really pleased for you and yes I know your thoughts ;D.
I love to be proved right and just like I said if you play your cards right you would get more sites and you did. I take my hat off to you and still wish you all the best.
I might see you in St Helens or even the Trafford Centre ;).
All the best
Craig
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wrighty i would liketo personally say that the work i bought off you was top quality and the more sites you said about have well and truly come off to the degree that im well in there.
i think i bought three sites of you and i now have 10!!!
all though the residential was not has good(in growing or keeping) i believe this to be down to a change of owner, your employees standards not so good, the hard times were in and me have staff to do most of the work.
i paid 10x and i have to say well worth!!
has for your brother......you know my thoughts
ronnie do u still do this work
if so i cud rent it of u
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Yes gav still do it And if I ever consider that I'll
Let you know