Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: ronnie paton on October 12, 2010, 10:06:52 pm
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would like to know from people that employ what there staff turnover a year, please only reply if you have staff many thanks
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Looks like everyone is voting for the 60K bracket.
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oops
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There wasn't a group forming but my employee works 6hours a week and earns me 150k a year ;) ;)
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Not happy with yours ronnie???
ive gone it alone again wasnt earning me enough employing
think its an issue with cash flow in that all the money i have spare ends up gone on wages all the stuff rolling over is mine which i never see + he is not working quick enough ,and still building the rounds, getting loads of complaints in the low sun recently too all his work !
i took on far too soon even part time and instead of building quicker/harder to make it pay i just got used to smashing the work out in a few good earning days and having time off but im not making enough so thinking off going solo again and just refining the work too earn good 4.5 days a week
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
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sean you they do well i think but its always nice to compare.
i too have had a few complaints from the lads, im just keeping on top of things at the moment pushing them in the right direction.
youll proberly find youll never get any one do it like you so you have to live with the problems but keep them to a min
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
Like you dont come on here plastered and talk complete crap?
Spades a spade pal, like I said in your chums thread.
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
Stupid questions get stupid answers!!!!
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i dont need to talk crap pal and whos my chum??
are you always ped maybe go see the AA mate
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
Stupid questions get stupid answers!!!!
explain lee obviuosly im not has bright has you why is it so stupid.....you might teach me something?
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i dont need to talk crap pal and whos my chum??
are you always ped maybe go see the AA mate
;D ;D ;D ;D
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
Stupid questions get stupid answers!!!!
explain lee obviuosly im not has bright has you why is it so stupid.....you might teach me something?
I think you shpuld have put more realistic earning brackets or just added lower earning brackets, I don't think there would be anyone oh here who has an employee who earns them 60k, but I may be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time
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ronnie i cant see young micheal earning 60k
m8 truth ;) ;) ;)
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ok im said to different things so ill set it syraight i meant how much Turnover do the employees do and not how much they earn us has we all know there would have to be an allowane for expenditure to take that figuer into consideration.
so on that note iv give options that vary from20k -60k if there not turnover 20 k your staff and you have a problem.
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ronnie i cant see young micheal earning 60k
m8 truth ;) ;) ;)
young michael may not earn that but he may earn RCW that ;)
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
Stupid questions get stupid answers!!!!
explain lee obviuosly im not has bright has you why is it so stupid.....you might teach me something?
I'll second you on that one Ronnie if your spelling's anything to go by! :o
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young ronnie i cant see young micheal earning 60k
m8 truth ;) ;) ;)
young michael may not earn that but he may earn RCW that ;)
Oh really?
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il go wiv that ronnie , if its excellently priced work
compact n he dont av to think , given time effort n much
supervision e may turn into a grafter ;) hear he's doing gardening too now
so e maywell do ;) ;) ;)
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ok im said to different things so ill set it syraight i meant how much Turnover do the employees do and not how much they earn us has we all know there would have to be an allowane for expenditure to take that figuer into consideration.
so on that note iv give options that vary from20k -60k if there not turnover 20 k your staff and you have a problem.
60k turnover is still way to high
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you get some idiots who must be really bored, surely rise and shine you can (if you employee) give a answer?
instead oming on either doubting or putting down peoples posts.........its just a thought
Stupid questions get stupid answers!!!!
your right am i crap speller but i cant be good at everything, you were still never able to answer my question, you just hide behind the computer......
explain lee obviuosly im not has bright has you why is it so stupid.....you might teach me something?
I'll second you on that one Ronnie if your spelling's anything to go by! :o
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ok im said to different things so ill set it syraight i meant how much Turnover do the employees do and not how much they earn us has we all know there would have to be an allowane for expenditure to take that figuer into consideration.
so on that note iv give options that vary from20k -60k if there not turnover 20 k your staff and you have a problem.
60k turnover is still way to high
ok so i guess your an experienced employee to be able to tell me that?
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il go wiv that ronnie , if its excellently priced work
compact n he dont av to think , given time effort n much
supervision e may turn into a grafter ;) hear he's doing gardening too now
so e maywell do ;) ;) ;)
mike is a grafter i may well need a lot of supervision has well.
he does my garden but not sure if he does any more.
im trying to compare but it looks like i wont be getting any sense out of this lot.
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i think your all................................barking!! :P :P :P :P :P :P
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ok im said to different things so ill set it syraight i meant how much Turnover do the employees do and not how much they earn us has we all know there would have to be an allowane for expenditure to take that figuer into consideration.
so on that note iv give options that vary from20k -60k if there not turnover 20 k your staff and you have a problem.
60k turnover is still way to high
ok so i guess your an experienced employee to be able to tell me that?
Is it that time of the month for you because you seem really hormonal tonight, I've heard from the missis that evening primrose can help with a heavy period ;)
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ok lee what is a fair turnover figuere?
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no lee but whe i make comments there from my experience i dont jut say something cause i think this i say something cause iv experienced it, so thats why i say if your a experienced employee what do they turnover for you how bloody difficult
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il go wiv that ronnie , if its excellently priced work
compact n he dont av to think , given time effort n much
supervision e may turn into a grafter ;) hear he's doing gardening too now
so e maywell do ;) ;) ;)
mike is a grafter i may well need a lot of supervision has well.
he does my garden but not sure if he does any more.
im trying to compare but it looks like i wont be getting any sense out of this lot.
YR MISSING THE POINT RONNIE
if a lads taking home say 250 a wk e gonna slow down n drag jobs out
e not going be going full bore to clean 1.5k every wk
to av say 250 take home leaving the boss 1.25k
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Depends wether it's full or part time, if they work on their own of with you, there are many variables that will contribute to it rather than just plucking a number out of the air
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working on there own obviusoly full time .......so give it a go
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Working on that assumption and that you have enough work form them to work 5 days a week then 45k, but that won't happen, you will have holiday pay, sick days bad weather ect. Realisticly 25-30k if you have the work for him.
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I'll try a sensible answer...
I dont "employ" anyone (I use a part time subcontractor). But if I did full-time, taking sickness, holidays and bad weather into consideration I reckon they would turn over an average of about £600 a week x 47 working weeks in a year = £28, 200 per year, then minus their wage, equipment costs, insurance, worry, stress etc...
Andy
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il go wiv that ronnie , if its excellently priced work
compact n he dont av to think , given time effort n much
supervision e may turn into a grafter ;) hear he's doing gardening too now
so e maywell do ;) ;) ;)
mike is a grafter i may well need a lot of supervision has well.
he does my garden but not sure if he does any more.
im trying to compare but it looks like i wont be getting any sense out of this lot.
YR MISSING THE POINT RONNIE
if a lads taking home say 250 a wk e gonna slow down n drag jobs out
e not going be going full bore to clean 1.5k every wk
to av say 250 take home leaving the boss 1.25k
not sure what you mean?
im asking for peoples experiences im not saying what is right or wrong or even coming on here to say what mine earn me just wanting to compare a relastic poll would do that.
an employee should work to a good satandard and speed at all times it doesnt matter to the amployee what they turnover unles there on price work but any boss with experiences knows what can be done.
an employees doesnt have to run build and substain a business or pay for all the expenses that go with it so what you say doesnt mcake sense?
see gav from what you say you think has a worker and not an employee ie if one guy turnsover 1.5k a week and the employees takes home 250 it doesnt leave any were near 1.25k and seondly the boss isnt getting this either.
an employee clearing 250 is prob on 320ish plus you have holidays/sik to consider plus weekly running costs of vehicle and business plus employee NI contributes.
The list can be endless so the boss would get far less than 1.25k.
and iv never said an employee would earn me 1.5k a week
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andy thank you for your response
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lee if you didnt have the work for them you wouldnt employee some one full time surely, any one with a ounce of business acuman must be able to see that
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andy thank you for your response
you did miss the point ronnie
employee's always think the boss is aving it
they dont see the costs etc or when they throw sickies etc
they just see or think they r earning boss a fortune
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i see gav what your saying and yes you often get them from staff.
thats not what this is about its about seeing what other people that employee are able to get there staff to turnover.
you have to make your staff feel apreciated whiich can be hard little trips and meals hristmas tips and bonuses and tellthem how muh it costs for things and they will soon understand
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you did miss the point ronnie
employee's always think the boss is aving it
they dont see the costs etc or when they throw sickies etc
they just see or think they r earning boss a fortune
The best thing to do when offering someone a window cleaning job is to sit down with them before they start and show them an exact breakdown of what it costs you to employ them, and explain to them that if those costs aren't met then there is no job!
Andy
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ronnie i workd for capital n/w
m8 driving over a 1000 miles every wk
doing tescos etc superdrugs currys pc worlds
earned em loads ad 2wks off wiv me newborn at the time
they whined like hell so had more time off then jacked
as at the time didnt even av a xmas card m8
that was the thanks i got ;)
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gav but if they treated you better would you still be there?
and also do they miss you?
two very important questions
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gav but if they treated you better would you still be there?
and also do they miss you?
two very important questions
ronnie i treated their work as my own m8 true as i spk
im 100% m8 i cudnt bring myself to miss windows or da like
if u get me (NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING THE SHEETS SIGNED)
type or guy never ad a holiday il give them credit they
always sed at end ov yr we owe u 3wks money etc
i was like my own man if u get me i was left to
complete my work n if i didnt i did in my own time
my run for them covered 1000 miles a wk , wud i still be there
i dont know was on my own for 10yrs prior to
working for them then ad an almighty push to go
bak on my own after our last daughter was scared yes started wiv 1
house so may ov bin security was a facture , but fr my exp m8
i was that employee who turned over i.5k every week
n it took em all their time to give me a replacement RUBBER!!!!!!!
miss me i think so send 2 men now to cover my work
but i dont think they knew what they had !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Fancy a jon Gav? Saying that id have to sit down with you first and work out how much you could earn me first to see if it would work out ;) ;D ;D
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Fancy a jon Gav? Saying that id have to sit down with you first and work out how much you could earn me first to see if it would work out ;) ;D ;D
im always available as a subby m8 ;D ;D
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Iv only got enough work to cover my own arse at the moment mate. Good to know tho ;D ! Where you Based Gav?
Danny
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Iv only got enough work to cover my own arse at the moment mate. Good to know tho ;D ! Where you Based Gav?
Danny
wrexham m8 fully fitted out van
loadsa poles 000% water ladders trad gear 26yrs exp il travel at my cost
expect a gud days pay for a gud days work
1000% honest n very gud company lol take me up on it ;D ;D ;D ;D
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gav but if they treated you better would you still be there?
and also do they miss you?
two very important questions
ronnie i treated their work as my own m8 true as i spk
im 100% m8 i cudnt bring myself to miss windows or da like
if u get me (NOT JUST ABOUT GETTING THE SHEETS SIGNED)
type or guy never ad a holiday il give them credit they
always sed at end ov yr we owe u 3wks money etc
i was like my own man if u get me i was left to
complete my work n if i didnt i did in my own time
my run for them covered 1000 miles a wk , wud i still be there
i dont know was on my own for 10yrs prior to
working for them then ad an almighty push to go
bak on my own after our last daughter was scared yes started wiv 1
house so may ov bin security was a facture , but fr my exp m8
i was that employee who turned over i.5k every week
n it took em all their time to give me a replacement RUBBER!!!!!!!
miss me i think so send 2 men now to cover my work
but i dont think they knew what they had !!!!!!!!!!!!!
thinking off it their expenses my wage 300 wk
van was leased 100 wk + vat
diesel say 165 wk leaving them approx 900 a wk ;)
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Gav iv got a mate thats a building site manager in wrexham....he works for bovis. He said thats hes just been working on a site down there (36 houses) and their is no window cleaner on there but only 10 people have moved into the houses so far! Ill try and get a postcode off him and pass it on to you. Maybe abit more work for you so you wouldnt need to sub off me ;)
Danny
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Gav iv got a mate thats a building site manager in wrexham....he works for bovis. He said thats hes just been working on a site down there (36 houses) and their is no window cleaner on there but only 10 people have moved into the houses so far! Ill try and get a postcode off him and pass it on to you. Maybe abit more work for you so you wouldnt need to sub off me ;)
Danny
gr8 danny but if u get busy il help u out m8 ;D ;D
numbers 07870537069
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Got it mate! Ill try and get it tomorrow and txt you as soon as i know anything. Im not promising anything but i should be fine to get it ;D
Danny
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tidy im in glossop 2morow but will b home around 4 ;D ;D ;D ;D
be out at 5.30am mind ;D ;D ;Dlol
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Im going fishing in blackpool :P :P ;D
Danny
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any one with a ounce of business acuman must be able to see that
What is acuman? Is it a spice you put in a curry? ;D
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lee if you didnt have the work for them you wouldnt employee some one full time surely, any one with a ounce of business acuman must be able to see that
Anyone with an ounce of business ACUMEN would be able to sit down and calculate what an employees turn over would be!
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its not about working it out you fool i currently know what mine earn but i wanted to see if how good/bad they were in regrads to work turnover. you havent a clue
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gav it looks like from what you say you were a good employee and have truly been missed.
your betteroff now so it has worked in your fvcocur.
ccccccccccccccjust to let you know your calculations are a million miles away weres the vat unit expenses repairs new equipment resin phone insuranes ect
my business ost 260 a day to run 5 days a week 52 weeks a year