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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: coyote7 on July 27, 2010, 09:36:07 pm

Title: Agitation!
Post by: coyote7 on July 27, 2010, 09:36:07 pm
Good evening all.

I am thinking of buying the sebo duo but would like some thoughts first. Is it a good investment I mean are the results significantly better than a rake or brush which is what I currently use and am happy is it a case of it if ain't broke don't fix it!? But I am always willing to try something new so can I have the opinions of both users without trying to open up a can of worms :o

Rich ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: justin brown on July 27, 2010, 09:45:04 pm
hi rich, i enquired about the duo last week and spoke to someone who is highly regarded in our industry. He seems to think they are 'a bit lightweight' and told me to save up for a envirodri as these are the absolute quality, although they cost 1K!!

http://www.envirodri.com/product_range/machines.html
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: David Rogers on July 27, 2010, 09:48:44 pm

There is nothing like the Envirodri GEN4 for agitation, (I'm a serious fanboy of them), however whilst not in the same league (or price bracket) the Sebo Duo is very, very, good.   I would think you'd notice a big difference in agitation performance and results over a rake.   The benefit of the Duo is also that they are about 1/10 the weight of the GEN4.   :)
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Mark_Jubb on July 27, 2010, 10:23:22 pm
Good evening all.

I am thinking of buying the sebo duo but would like some thoughts first. Is it a good investment I mean are the results significantly better than a rake or brush which is what I currently use and am happy is it a case of it if ain't broke don't fix it!? But I am always willing to try something new so can I have the opinions of both users without trying to open up a can of worms :o

Rich ;D

Hi Rich,

The Sebo Duo is certainly easier on the arms than using a rake or brush, but is lightweight compared to an Envirodry.
You could also consider the Oreck Orbiter with either the Black Brush or a Drive Board and Pad.
Where abouts in Wiltshire are you, as I could let you have a loan of my spare Sebo Duo to give it a try, before you buy a new one if you like.

Cheers
Mark
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Griffus on July 27, 2010, 10:37:28 pm
I put my Envirodri up there with my best / favourite kit.

Speak to Envirodri and buy a reconditioned one. If none in stock ask them to email you as and when. We did this and had one in a week. Couldn't live without it now!

Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Colin Day on July 27, 2010, 10:42:07 pm
Oreck Oritor's a little bit more money than a Duo and it is a versatile bit of kit....

It's great on stairs too and if needs be, stick a pad on to make carpets that little bit drier after HWE..... Best £400 I ever spent :)
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Carpet Dawg on July 27, 2010, 10:59:55 pm
Hey Rich

I have 3 month old Sebo that i bought from RestoreMate. Its never been used! i still have all the packaging etc etc

Its surplus to requirements as i managed to get my 4 year old one fixed :)

I'll email you pics if you like? You'll see how immaculate it is from the pics lol

Price £180 + plus postage (unless you fancy a trip the Edinburgh :) think they are £200 + VAT brand new.

Comparing a sebo to a enviro is silly as the price gap is HUGE! like £1000 more! lol plus they weigh a ton. Its like saying "is a Corsa any good? yeah but a Range Rover Sport is much better!"  ;D

The main benefit of a sebo is that they are aload easier on your back and arms than a brush is!

Tony
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Colin Day on July 27, 2010, 11:18:29 pm
I have to ask.... Do you Envirodri guys use it on EVERY job?

I have the use of a similar machine for school carpets and it is an awesome bit of kit, but I'd be laid up 6 months of the year with a bad back if I had to use it in every home!
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: derek west on July 27, 2010, 11:49:37 pm
every job without fail.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: wynne jones on July 28, 2010, 12:31:47 am
sebos are great fot starters. Hate getting the gunge out of them though. It's better than a brush but it depends who's behind the brush I suppose.

Get a second hand one they are very expensive for what they are, you could buy a fair few pints for the price of a new one.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Joe H on July 28, 2010, 07:19:34 am
No Colin I dont use CarpetGard (Flexi5) on EVERY job.
If its a small room and not too bad I will brush.
Now I have the Oreck Orbiter (kindness of Mike Haliday) I may use soley that - especially if its not bad but some heavy stains.

All depends on the job.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: David Rogers on July 28, 2010, 01:52:02 pm

Use the Envirdri on every job.  You 'couldn't not' once you have one.  :)

Well Tony's done his sales pitch so I'll do mine  ;D ; have a 3 week old as-new Envirodri for sale in the 'for sale' seciton........ Bargain!   Replaced only because I've just bought a Host Freestyle.

Cheers.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: coyote7 on July 28, 2010, 02:05:58 pm
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all your thoughts and links. I have checked ot the envirodri and as much as it looks like an awesome bit of kit i don't think I can justify spending that much money at present. I am happy with the results I achieve but it would be good to upgrade where possible. The main area I struggle with seems to be the dark patches in front of sofas and main traffic areas although after reading a recent post on here I know it is usually down to wear and tear of the carpets, however I do wonder how much improved results might be with a better form of agitation ???

Tony thanks for the offer of the Sebo I will give it some thought and Mark that is a very kind offer to loan me your spare, I live in Staver 8)ton near Bradford on Avon, I would be happy to drive to you.

Rich.  
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: derek west on July 28, 2010, 02:10:39 pm
you can improve results in front of settees and chairs using a bonnet system.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: coyote7 on July 28, 2010, 05:47:53 pm
Did a wool carpet the other day and front of sofa was grubby but also lots of bobble from socks and also some colouring from socks what is best for this?
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: derek west on July 28, 2010, 05:50:41 pm
" HELLOOOOOOO, anybody see me, bald bloke with the big mac in his hand, HELLOOOOOOO"  ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Joe H on July 28, 2010, 06:28:13 pm
No good shouting, Derek - there deaf.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: wynne jones on July 28, 2010, 06:32:34 pm
I heard MCDEE got WIFI now, it's worth getting indegestion and heart disiese for free web time on the iphone  ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Carpet Dawg on July 28, 2010, 08:06:03 pm
Did a wool carpet the other day and front of sofa was grubby but also lots of bobble from socks and also some colouring from socks what is best for this?

What chems are you using Rich?? Did you leave a good dewell time on the pre-spray?

As for the bobble sock problem or sock dye as some call it. This is a right pain in the tits to remove! a carper cleaners nightmare etc etc well it is mine anyways! lol very common in bedrooms.

If you where to put the carpet under a microscope, you'd see little strades of sock fabric "intertwinded" on the carpet fibers... like velcro!
The best way i have found that removes it is using a stiff hand brush and give it a good rub!  ;D the carpet that is!! lol wax on wax off style!
Obviously, make sure its not the type of carpet that will "fluff up".

Tony
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: wynne jones on July 28, 2010, 08:39:59 pm
Coyote

Good move mate, stick to the brush, you don't need all that fancy kit, just put yer back into it, keep the beer gut down and is eco friendly. ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: Colin Day on July 28, 2010, 08:54:31 pm
Coyote

Good move mate, stick to the brush, you don't need all that fancy kit, just put yer back into it, keep the beer gut down and is eco friendly. ;D

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: coyote7 on July 28, 2010, 09:29:24 pm
Tony it's good to hear that i am not the only one who thinks it is a nightmare, i will try the stiff brush next time and see what occurs ::)
as for chems i use various from power burst to micro splitters which all seem to work well. Always keen to learn new tricks though ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: james roffey on July 28, 2010, 10:00:49 pm
I have only ever used the Envirodri gen 4 since i started last year and from what i read on here it appeared to be an essential piece of kit so i got one, i imagine it takes the hard work out of using a grooming type brush which i find poor in comparison, the only down side to it is the weight , changing the brushes and cleaning the thing i have also found that it can leave marks in some carpets i did a job last saturday and it left marks that were difficult to get out but they came out with multiple passes with the wand and i was using the softest brushes availlable the gold ones ???  i have the stiffer white ones and some white and gold suppose these are for damaging a carpet a bit less ::)  never understood why they made them or why i got them seemed a good idea at the time with hindsight a waste of money
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: wynne jones on July 28, 2010, 10:06:57 pm
I would use powerburst on everything then you could sell it and get a fornight in Teneriffe with the money. It's good stuff and fine on wool, don't believe evrything you hear.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: derek west on July 28, 2010, 10:12:26 pm
second that.
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: wynne jones on July 28, 2010, 10:16:46 pm
Put yur hard hat on Dezzer, incoming! ;D
Title: Re: Agitation!
Post by: derek west on July 28, 2010, 10:40:46 pm
me hat hard on ;D