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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Scrimble on July 09, 2010, 07:16:50 pm
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does anyone here not lift the hose reel in and out of the van?
starting to get a bad back from doing it
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I lift mine out about 10 times a day, havent got a bad back from it though.
I have been thinking of getting a second hose reel and 50m of microbore, I currently have 100m on a reel and I very rarely use more than 50m
Matt
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Ive got 2 hose reels in the back of the van, never lift mine out I have learnt to park in just the right position
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Never, ever.
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I cut about 30 metres off my 100metre reel, as i never need reach it that far, i think it makes quite a difference on the weight.
Just remember to bend your knees.. ;)
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does anyone here not lift the hose reel in and out of the van?
starting to get a bad back from doing it
Are you keeping your back straight when lifting mate??
When lifting heavy things technique is the key :)
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bolt in down just behind the rear doors
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Why would you want to lift it out?
I'd rather mine was bolted down, although to be fair mine has come unstuck and tumbles about. ;D
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did you know you can close the doors on the hose? not tight, but enough to lock it.
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A wipper snapper like you getting a bad back Mark ?
Once I've got them damm seats out of the van, I'm fixing the hose reel down and having a roller on the bumper that I can lower when needed.yt
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does anyone here not lift the hose reel in and out of the van?
starting to get a bad back from doing it
Just lift it with your arm, don’t tug, drag or twist and pull any other part of your body, don’t try and change your technique when lifting it just because you may be a little tired near the end of the day.
You won’t even notice the weight after a few months; it’s no different to getting the pole out of the van.
What poles do you use Ewan ?
Sorry I forgot you don't ;D
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Lads, chill, chill >:( :)
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I use to live in London in the eighties, cleaning windows then it was everyday occurrence to go second story up and walk along and over come obstacles the length of the building to clean the windows, many times just holding on by your fingertips, one hand of course while you use the other to clean the window.
That’s evidence, but not the kind you will ever understand. I don’t feel the need to prove I have a van and wfp system.
You never cleaned windows in London in the eighties you liar.
Your original posts on here claimed you'd been in the game for less than 2 years.
You're full of poope
Ewans first post on CIU, which illustrates he's been in the game for just over 3 years, amateur!
Hello all.
Left my job to go self employed as a full time Window Cleaner last April.
Need help on, trying to work out should I base my Hourly rate on 24 - 30 hours cleanning only per week?(based in the Midlands). What would be a the lowest rate for me to cover all expenses and make success of building a small business.
(or survive the 1st year).
All comments welcome. Thanks
Didnt have the nouce to be able to price a job.
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Watch out slumpbuster nowhere to go, been in this game longer than you can ever be. ;D
You sound like someone in a playground mate ::)
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Just used to your bullpoo mush, thats all.
Someone on Matts DIY forum says this is you doing community service
(http://www.litterheroes.co.uk/images/tim.jpg)
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:-*
So it is you ;D
I dont see you denying it.
At least talking about you is more interesting than talking about setting the cost of sarnies against your tax ;D ;D
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Just used to your bullpoo mush, thats all.
Someone on Matts DIY forum says this is you doing community service
(http://www.litterheroes.co.uk/images/tim.jpg)
No, that`s Barry McGuigan.
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So it's not just me that thinks you're a numpty Ewan? ;D ;D ;D
Looks like the momentum is building, surly 2478 members can't be wrong? ;D ;D
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does anyone here not lift the hose reel in and out of the van?
starting to get a bad back from doing it
Every day mate & have done for over 6 years no problem. My oppinion is, if you struggle to do this then you will struggle to do the job itself.
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does anyone here not lift the hose reel in and out of the van?
starting to get a bad back from doing it
Are you keeping your back straight when lifting mate??
When lifting heavy things technique is the key :)
Hi,
Whilst I agree that keeping your back straight is the correct way of lifting heavy items, some of us are unable to lift a hose reel out of the van using this technique. The problem is that even if the hose reel is near the back doors, we still need to lean forward as the rear step protrudes out. My sons hose reel is 100m whilst mine is 70m. I notice a big difference in weight between the two of them.
Spruce
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Why are you lifting them out ?
Dont understand it , dont think i have ever took mine out , i just park in the right place pull out the amount needed in as many pulls as it takes and off i go !
If your gonna pull the reel out on every job then go back to oofing the ladders off the roof !
Rich
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Why are you lifting them out ?
Dont understand it , dont think i have ever took mine out , i just park in the right place pull out the amount needed in as many pulls as it takes and off i go !
If your gonna pull the reel out on every job then go back to oofing the ladders off the roof !
Rich
Because you can Park in any position & have the reel pointing in any direction. Also doesn't matter if the reel leaks. Plus, you can lock the van if you have external ports. Easier to wind in.
Anything else? ;D
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I would do it so you can do both as there are jobs where leaving in the van is a pain in the bum.
if your in there drive no need to take out
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SMART ARSE ;D ;D ;D
I can see your points ,but have never been a fan of hose reel out of van , i use the heavy ones like from vari tech and due to walls corners car tyres plants pedestrians and the lack of hose on reel , making it pull over does my swede in , ENOUGH POINTS BACK AT YA ;D ;D
Rich
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Why are you lifting them out ?
Dont understand it , dont think i have ever took mine out , i just park in the right place pull out the amount needed in as many pulls as it takes and off i go !
If your gonna pull the reel out on every job then go back to oofing the ladders off the roof !
Rich
Because you can Park in any position & have the reel pointing in any direction. Also doesn't matter if the reel leaks. Plus, you can lock the van if you have external ports. Easier to wind in.
Anything else? ;D
it is not easier to reel in unless your about 3ft tall :o
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Another CIU myth is that hozelock reels are no good ;D ;D ;D
The small plastic/alloy ones are just that, small & light!!
I've been using mine for over 6 years with no problems at all. I just replace the small rubber O ring on the male connector now & then which stops any leaks! Alex Gardiner used the same one for over 6 years too. ;)
I've seen so many innocent people on here talked into buying these great big, heavy metal things for £100 a pop it's unreal!!!! ;D ;D ;D
However, sheep will follow sheep, as they say! ;)
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Another CIU myth is that hozelock reels are no good ;D ;D ;D
The small plastic/alloy ones are just that, small & light!!
I've been using mine for over 6 years with no problems at all. I just replace the small rubber O ring on the male connector now & then which stops any leaks! Alex Gardiner used the same one for over 6 years too. ;)
I've seen so many innocent people on here talked into buying these great big, heavy metal things for £100 a pop it's unreal!!!! ;D ;D ;D
However, sheep will follow sheep, as they say! ;)
Yeah I took notice of Alex too and bought the plastic reel.....
What a waste of money that was ::)
Constant leaks, connector popping off, flimsy construction.....
Only good things were it was cheap and light... and when I threw it down the tip
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Another CIU myth is that hozelock reels are no good ;D ;D ;D
The small plastic/alloy ones are just that, small & light!!
I've been using mine for over 6 years with no problems at all. I just replace the small rubber O ring on the male connector now & then which stops any leaks! Alex Gardiner used the same one for over 6 years too. ;)
I've seen so many innocent people on here talked into buying these great big, heavy metal things for £100 a pop it's unreal!!!! ;D ;D ;D
However, sheep will follow sheep, as they say! ;)
Yeah I took notice of Alex too and bought the plastic reel.....
What a waste of money that was ::)
Constant leaks, connector popping off, flimsy construction.....
Only good things were it was cheap and light... and when I threw it down the tip
There is a specific one, which you obviousley didn't get! ;D ;D
None of that for me. ;)
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There is a specific one, which you obviousley didn't get! ;D ;D
None of that for me. ;)
Of course I got the right one Alex recommended.... it was on his site saying so ::)
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I could never understand that, worked out of cars, didn't believe in round managment programmes, crappy old reels like the one in customers back gardens, no varistream/flow controller.There was a definite conflict in someone who sold sophisticated methods to us but was as tight as a ducks arse.
I came to the conclusiion that he didn't do many domestics.This is what worries me about his designing systems and the double zero.He didn't think this side of things through suffiecently, and input from forums is no longer possible.
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I could never understand that, worked out of cars, didn't believe in round managment programmes, crappy old reels like the one in customers back gardens, no varistream/flow controller.There was a definite conflict in someone who sold sophisticated methods to us but was as tight as a ducks arse.
I came to the conclusiion that he didn't do many domestics.This is what worries me about his designing systems and the double zero.He didn't think this side of things through suffiecently, and input from forums is no longer possible.
And yet he's a much more successful man than you'll ever be! ;D ;D
Maybe it's YOU who might need to think differently?
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My dad didn't give me a business.
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My dad didn't give me a business.
Neither did his, not the more successful one. ;)
Not much of an excuse either. ;)
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There is a specific one, which you obviousley didn't get! ;D ;D
None of that for me. ;)
Of course I got the right one Alex recommended.... it was on his site saying so ::)
It must be you then ::)
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I couldn't get on with the hoselock reels at all - used to blow them apart because the spool was made in two halves. Then there was that grey connector that would wear and blow the female side off, they were buggers to source in a hurry.
My problem in fairness was probably too much pressure in the system/air locks because I also blew the head off my DI vessel ::) ::
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You're all rubbish! ;D
I've had two used daily (one for filling, one on van) for 6 years & not once has any connector blown off, spindle split or anything else. It gets thrown in & out of the van all day too!
Not one replacement part apart from the O rings! ;)
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I reckon you're using different ones to me, maybe Alex didn't have the same one either?
There are quite a few different offerings from hozelok & some do look quite similar.
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post a link to yours then wipoclean please mate
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post a link to yours then wipoclean please mate
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0427243/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CGarden+and+DIY%7C14418702/c_2/3%7C15701041%7CGarden+tools+and+accessories%7C14418733/c_3/4%7Ccat_14418733%7CGarden+watering+and+hoses%7C14418742.htm#tabrev
That's mine.
There is another one which looks very similar but is cheaper & less robust! ;)
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post a link to yours then wipoclean please mate
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0427243/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CGarden+and+DIY%7C14418702/c_2/3%7C15701041%7CGarden+tools+and+accessories%7C14418733/c_3/4%7Ccat_14418733%7CGarden+watering+and+hoses%7C14418742.htm#tabrev
That's mine.
There is another one which looks very similar but is cheaper & less robust! ;)
do you do much work ?, I know full well I would snap that reel very quick. I buy the more expensive ones for a reason also the height is asking for a claim should you have staff more so if you lift this out of the van.
Can I ask how much 8mm hose you can get on this reel ??
I'm quite shocked that you penny pinch on what I would class as a key part of the daily running of a wfp system.
I could undersytand this being used as a part time window cleaners tool... Don't take offense I am just a little blunt and straight to the point I mean it with no mallice
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Another CIU myth is that hozelock reels are no good ;D ;D ;D
The small plastic/alloy ones are just that, small & light!!
I've been using mine for over 6 years with no problems at all. I just replace the small rubber O ring on the male connector now & then which stops any leaks! Alex Gardiner used the same one for over 6 years too. ;)
I've seen so many innocent people on here talked into buying these great big, heavy metal things for £100 a pop it's unreal!!!! ;D ;D ;D
However, sheep will follow sheep, as they say! ;)
Dont you mean unREEL? ;D ;D
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post a link to yours then wipoclean please mate
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0427243/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CGarden+and+DIY%7C14418702/c_2/3%7C15701041%7CGarden+tools+and+accessories%7C14418733/c_3/4%7Ccat_14418733%7CGarden+watering+and+hoses%7C14418742.htm#tabrev
That's mine.
There is another one which looks very similar but is cheaper & less robust! ;)
do you do much work ?, I know full well I would snap that reel very quick. I buy the more expensive ones for a reason also the height is asking for a claim should you have staff more so if you lift this out of the van.
Can I ask how much 8mm hose you can get on this reel ??
I'm quite shocked that you penny pinch on what I would class as a key part of the daily running of a wfp system.
I could undersytand this being used as a part time window cleaners tool... Don't take offense I am just a little blunt and straight to the point I mean it with no mallice
What a numpty! ;D
Have you ever used one Ian?
100m of minibore
Penny pinch? ::) You're one of the sheep! Read again, it's worked "perfectly" for over SIX years, long before you were wfp mate! ;D
Do I do much work? ;D what a numpty head! ;D
You talk shi*e Ian & stll can't resist the chance to get the word "staff" into any slot! ;D Joke!
Wouldn't be so bad from someone else but from someone who won't buy from a man in a suit & likes heavy poles 'cos they give you a workout!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) :D Give it a rest. ;)
With regards to penny pinching, wasn't it you looking round ebay for a dirt cheap pump because you were skint 2 weeks ago? ;D ;D
You might pillock others on here dude, but not me! I've been here too long! ;)
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http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0427243/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CGarden+and+DIY%7C14418702/c_2/3%7C15701041%7CGarden+tools+and+accessories%7C14418733/c_3/4%7Ccat_14418733%7CGarden+watering+and+hoses%7C14418742.htm#tabrev
That's mine.
There is another one which looks very similar but is cheaper & less robust! ;)
Oh yes I remember them.... yuck.... horrible cheepo things ;D
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Hey, do you think you can sue Hoselock if you do your back in watering the garden?
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This is the reel i use is weighty but had no problems with it so far.
http://www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/complete-6mm-micro-hose-100m--metal-reel-inc-fittings-1054-p.asp
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You may be joking but i have to stick up for Ian because he knows his stuff.Especially practical aspects.He was slow in coming over to wfp, but once he did he was full on.
As regards the plastic reels you may be right, and as you say Alex did use them.I have cox reels at £300 each because i even wrecked the £100 metal ones, which do have plastic spindles and could not take the torque of reeling on electricaly.
Ian (ww) and me are interested in doing high volume domestic work that is idiot proof.Our equipment mustn't break; if we lose a mornings work that is a lot of money, hence we use expensive and robust kit.This is not a dig at you, this is just how it is for us.
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You may be joking but i have to stick up for Ian because he knows his stuff.Especially practical aspects.He was slow in coming over to wfp, but once he did he was full on.
As regards the plastic reels you may be right, and as you say Alex did use them.I have cox reels at £300 each because i even wrecked the £100 metal ones, which do have plastic spindles and could not take the torque of reeling on electricaly.
Ian (ww) and me are interested in doing high volume domestic work that is idiot proof.Our equipment mustn't break; if we lose a mornings work that is a lot of money, hence we use expensive and robust kit.This is not a dig at you, this is just how it is for us.
Trust me, that reel has done as much as yours & Ian's put together! ;)
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post a link to yours then wipoclean please mate
http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/0427243/c_1/1%7Ccategory_root%7CGarden+and+DIY%7C14418702/c_2/3%7C15701041%7CGarden+tools+and+accessories%7C14418733/c_3/4%7Ccat_14418733%7CGarden+watering+and+hoses%7C14418742.htm#tabrev
That's mine.
There is another one which looks very similar but is cheaper & less robust! ;)
do you do much work ?, I know full well I would snap that reel very quick. I buy the more expensive ones for a reason also the height is asking for a claim should you have staff more so if you lift this out of the van.
Can I ask how much 8mm hose you can get on this reel ??
I'm quite shocked that you penny pinch on what I would class as a key part of the daily running of a wfp system.
I could undersytand this being used as a part time window cleaners tool... Don't take offense I am just a little blunt and straight to the point I mean it with no mallice
What a numpty! ;D
Have you ever used one Ian?
100m of minibore
Penny pinch? ::) You're one of the sheep! Read again, it's worked "perfectly" for over SIX years, long before you were wfp mate! ;D
Do I do much work? ;D what a numpty head! ;D
You talk shi*e Ian & stll can't resist the chance to get the word "staff" into any slot! ;D Joke!
Wouldn't be so bad from someone else but from someone who won't buy from a man in a suit & likes heavy poles 'cos they give you a workout!!!!!! ::) ::) ::) :D Give it a rest. ;)
With regards to penny pinching, wasn't it you looking round ebay for a dirt cheap pump because you were skint 2 weeks ago? ;D ;D
You might pillock others on here dude, but not me! I've been here too long! ;)
I wanted a cheap pump for a couple of weeks if you follow my posts you would see, I bought one £35 and bought a £250 booster pump 3 days later because I blew the seals on cheap b&Q one within an hour of using it.
I do have heavy poles but use slx poles one for me one for staff as I dont like working out anymore ;) ;D
I will not put up with shi$te from you either dude, if your wanting me to add you to msn messenger you have a funny way of asking ;D If I am a sheep i'm the black one.
I asked if you do much work as I dont know if you do or not, so how can that make me a numpty head you jocky :P ?
I use 100 mtrs of 8mm hose often as I do some large places and looking at that garden reel it looks a little small, I could be wrong on that please fill we with your wisdom.
you have been wfp longer than me does not mean anything to me fella apart from you must be getting old, hose reels has moved on since you started ;D
Here's to pillocking :-*
Ian
p.s hope you dont choke on your porridge when reading this lol
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Hahahaha this plave just gets better all the time ;D
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Hahahaha this plave just gets better all the time ;D
Cos it's full of wannabe's with a history of over exaggerating (telling porkies)
Like property developers! ;D Which is what Ian used to be in his words! ;D
And people who would "snap" a hose reel they've never used! ;D
The trouble for Ian is I've read his posts from the very beginning & I have an incredible memory which can embarrass many! ;) :D
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Hahahaha this plave just gets better all the time ;D
Cos it's full of wannabe's with a history of over exaggerating (telling porkies)
Like property developers! ;D Which is what Ian used to be in his words! ;D
And people who would "snap" a hose reel they've never used! ;D
The trouble for Ian is I've read his posts from the very beginning & I have an incredible memory which can embarrass many! ;) :D
would you like pics of my new house ? and my other one that I still own ?
I was into property developing it cost me alot of money, why does everyone have to be telling porkies ?
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Hahahaha this plave just gets better all the time ;D
Cos it's full of wannabe's with a history of over exaggerating (telling porkies)
Like property developers! ;D Which is what Ian used to be in his words! ;D
And people who would "snap" a hose reel they've never used! ;D
The trouble for Ian is I've read his posts from the very beginning & I have an incredible memory which can embarrass many! ;) :D
would you like pics of my new house ? and my other one that I still own ?
I was into property developing it cost me alot of money, why does everyone have to be telling porkies ?
Yeah, please, it'll be really convincing ::)
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Hahahaha this plave just gets better all the time ;D
Cos it's full of wannabe's with a history of over exaggerating (telling porkies)
Like property developers! ;D Which is what Ian used to be in his words! ;D
And people who would "snap" a hose reel they've never used! ;D
The trouble for Ian is I've read his posts from the very beginning & I have an incredible memory which can embarrass many! ;) :D
would you like pics of my new house ? and my other one that I still own ?
I was into property developing it cost me alot of money, why does everyone have to be telling porkies ?
Yeah, please, it'll be really convincing ::)
why am I trying to prove myself to you anyways :-\
You will already know this if you read my posts and remember everything ::)
How was your day today anyway winp ?
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what I wanna know is what are you 2 big hitters (winp & WW) doin online at 4 oclock in the afternoon. I thought you dudes would still be out there making the world shine!
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what I wanna know is what are you 2 big hitters (winp & WW) doin online at 4 oclock in the afternoon. I thought you dudes would still be out there making the world shine!
I am a part time window cleaner Tom ;)
p.s I am not a big hitter in window cleaning
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I have been there chaps , had plastic and metal , plastic was £25 small van , metal was £100 big van , which is better , pros and cons , plastic one is 5 years old and still going , a joy to work with , mind you it has had about 15 replacement manifolds at £4 each .
The metal reel has needed nothing in 12 months , however due to the design of the sides of the thing it is an absolute ball ache if your pulling off at an angle , it catches and jams up like a goodun , why dont they make the sides round instead of having the cut outs ?
Rich