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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: laddermonkee on May 25, 2010, 07:27:18 pm
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Do people really earn what they claim on this forum, it is making me feel quite inadequate ;D
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YOU CAN EARN GOOD MONEY BUT I THINK SOME PEOPLE BIG THEMSELVES UP ON HERE , BY THE WAY I EARN £4,000 EASY PER DAY ONLY DOING 4 HOURS A DAY LOL
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I really do earn £20 a day........but it does take me 40 mins a house!!!! ;D ;D
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I really do earn £20 a day........but it does take me 40 mins a house!!!! ;D ;D
;D ;D
daz
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I only work 4 hours a day and take £70 an hour ;) lol I WISH :'(
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a lot of people earn different wages, u will earn what u need, 1 man might only need 300 a week a other 600, some on here have to earn over 3 grand a week
i average about 18 ph, i work on my own and dont rush, just go steady throught the day
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I used to earn 38 grand a year, Be lucky if i am on a 3rd of that now (steadily rising though). I was skint then, and am skint now. More you earn the more you spend. But the time at home with kids and girlfriend more than makes up for the drop in earnings. 8)
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Do people really earn what they claim on this forum, it is making me feel quite inadequate ;D
I would not listen to half the people on here as they live on a different planet, also half of the info if not more on here is wrong. What people need to do is deside who they think is telling the truth or not and what info if right or wrong: does make the forum interesting though ;D.
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Do people really earn what they claim on this forum, it is making me feel quite inadequate ;D
I would not listen to half the people on here as they live on a different planet, also half of the info if not more on here is wrong. What people need to do is deside who they think is telling the truth or not and what info if right or wrong: does make the forum interesting though ;D.
spot on ;)
daz
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I only work 4 hours a day and take £70 an hour ;) lol I WISH :'(
Lying hound.... you've never worked 4 hours in a day. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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not many will be telling the truth i find it hard to believe people can earn 3k plus a month unless you got a really special round,i earn around £400 a week and cant see how i could go any faster to earn big money in the future especially with british weather
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as rwc said it all depends where you live in the country. Im not hungry to go mad day in day out 6 days a week but if i was and did that then i guess id earn extreamly well in region of 6k a month as im in south london and can get good top prices. It does me doing shortish days and being able to juggle everything else around work which is how i choose to stay.
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It is mainly about how many hours you work obviously, and well compact your round is , how quick you are at cleaning and how well priced the work is
the better you get at these things the more you earn
Its funny though that you lads soing 100 -150 a day will take him a good portion of that with low overheads if you run it right, whereas the guys doing 400 -500 a day will no doubt have 2 lads working and have all that hassle etc although they will earn more
Dont be down about what you earn unless you need more, i always try earn more per hour so i can maximize my earnings but i am young and have a young family, whereas my bro in law plods along earning 100 a day and is happier and usually better off than me anyway...
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Cleaning I earn £20-£30 per hour at the mo I am only working about 20 hours per week.
A lot of people on here forget to mention all the unpaid hours you do for your business, like dropping flyers, door knocking etc.
Matt
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My earnings are fairly good,.. but take home pay is completely different. Take off the VAT, tax, fuel & vehicle costs, equipment costs, insurance, accountants etc etc etc and personally I really need to earn that amount just to pay my bills.
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Cleaning I earn £20-£30 per hour at the mo I am only working about 20 hours per week.
A lot of people on here forget to mention all the unpaid hours you do for your business, like dropping flyers, door knocking etc.
Matt
How much would you say you earn Matt when gutter cleaning?
Approximately per hour.
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Cleaning I earn £20-£30 per hour at the mo I am only working about 20 hours per week.
A lot of people on here forget to mention all the unpaid hours you do for your business, like dropping flyers, door knocking etc.
Matt
yea but when your all full up and have built your round you wont need to do this
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£30-£40 per hour, but its not every day its more 1-2 jobs per week at the mo.
Same with conservatory roofs.
Matt
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Cleaning I earn £20-£30 per hour at the mo I am only working about 20 hours per week.
A lot of people on here forget to mention all the unpaid hours you do for your business, like dropping flyers, door knocking etc.
Matt
yea but when your all full up and have built your round you wont need to do this
you will always need to do a certain amount of canvassing , as if you stand still , you end up going backwards ;)
daz
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Cleaning I earn £20-£30 per hour at the mo I am only working about 20 hours per week.
A lot of people on here forget to mention all the unpaid hours you do for your business, like dropping flyers, door knocking etc.
Matt
yea but when your all full up and have built your round you wont need to do this
I would still need to do it because I wouldnt be happy with just "having enough" If I can expand I will. thats how I see my business moving in the next few years.
Matt
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Some quite good replies on this.
If you want to know max earnings then go like a hammer when back off your hols and have plenty of work to attack.
Tips for max earnings are;
use high flow
use hot system
employ and use a two man set up
Use technology such as round software to target rounds, and top end kit such as slx and electric reels inside a state of the art van specially designed to crush worklists.
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Some quite good replies on this.
If you want to know max earnings then go like a hammer when back off your hols and have plenty of work to attack.
Tips for max earnings are;
use high flow
use hot system
employ and use a two man set up
Use technology such as round software to target rounds, and top end kit such as slx and electric reels inside a state of the art van specially designed to crush worklists.
;D ;D ;D
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Why use a hot water setup?
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Some quite good replies on this.
If you want to know max earnings then go like a hammer when back off your hols and have plenty of work to attack.
Tips for max earnings are;
use high flow
use hot system
employ and use a two man set up
Use technology such as round software to target rounds, and top end kit such as slx and electric reels inside a state of the art van specially designed to crush worklists.
jeez i remember when cleaning windows was just cleaning windows ;D
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I never leaflet drop or cold calling as i advertise on yell.com and on google but most of my work come from word and mouth and been seen on the streets as for last week i picked up another 7 customers and started 2 filling station yesterday and also got a new customer for next month as i was cleaning a next door customer to them and also picked up 2 customers for today as they where taken there kids to school and one phoned her sister which i cleaned today and another customer came to me and i cleaned that house as well doing my complete day work for today.
And i pay myself £1,200 per month and the rest stay in my business account and some goes into a business saving account and a personnel saving accounts.
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likes been said on this subject it depends what you want!i prefer to be a one man band earning a decent wedge for my style of living!low stress/low hassle,a few good holidays a year,bills paid,food in the cupboard,nights out and meals,cinema,clothes etc.
THE POINT IS FOR ME IS THAT IF THERES MORE MONEY COMING IN THAN GOING OUT THEN IM OK!!!! ;D ;D ;D
there will be plenty of one man guys that earn more than me and a lot that earn considerably less!!the problem with window cleaning is that you can have some really mega weeks then a lull due to bad weather/van problems/health/injury etc that eat into your profits.
by the time ive paid all my overheads and tax there is not much left!! :'( :'(
BUT AS LONG AS THERE IS MORE MONEY COMING IN THAN GOING OUT IM EARNING A LIVING!!!! ;D ;D ;D
im counting my blessings folks!! :D :D
dazmond
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not many will be telling the truth i find it hard to believe people can earn 3k plus a month unless you got a really special round,i earn around £400 a week and cant see how i could go any faster to earn big money in the future especially with british weather
£3k turnover a month with WFP is nothing special. It would probably take a fair while to build up to that though after much pruning of customers who mess about.
Or did you mean £3k income rather than £3k turnover?
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Some quite good replies on this.
If you want to know max earnings then go like a hammer when back off your hols and have plenty of work to attack.
Tips for max earnings are;
use high flow
use hot system
employ and use a two man set up
Use technology such as round software to target rounds, and top end kit such as slx and electric reels inside a state of the art van specially designed to crush worklists.
You are joking Clive, 2 man set up can cost you money and time, I would love to go out with you for a day and see what can really be done ;D
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I think a lot of people on here have selective memories. They may well from time to time earn £600-£700 pw but conveniently forget the many weeks where they've been weathered-off and have only earned £200 ;)
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The things spoken on here are a load of twaddle and thats a fact. You get all sorts of idiots with no idea.
I have long since given up on trying to believe it but the trouble is newbies and people thinking of starting up read it.
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£30-£40 per hour, but its not every day its more 1-2 jobs per week at the mo.
Same with conservatory roofs.
Matt
What?
There is no way you are being honest then.
Clean flush and empty gutters at £7.50 a metre and you can only do 5 metres an hour.
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£30-£40 per hour, but its not every day its more 1-2 jobs per week at the mo.
Same with conservatory roofs.
Matt
What?
There is no way you are being honest then.
Clean flush and empty gutters at £7.50 a metre and you can only do 5 metres an hour.
That includes surveying the guttering first, then setting up the vac and vaccing the gutters (in some situations I may have to go over the same peice of gutter twice) then set up the pressure washer and anf flush it, then apply TFR to the outside and fascias and soffits let it soak for 5-10 mins then pressuer wash it, then clean the windows. it all takes time.
plus when you are charging people £120 to clear and clean the gutters they would certainly moan if you raced around and did it in hour and half.
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;D ;D ;D
You sound like you're trying to justify the expense to a potential custard.
I smell something here and it comes from the rear end of a male bovine.
Or perhaps you dont know what you are talking about and/or doing in the real world.
How long have you been in this business Matt?
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earnings vary so much, you just dont know what peoples expenses really are.
I think a post on turnover would be better.
I have a few vans and employ a few people.
I expect my staff to turn over £500-£600 per day if a pair and £250-£300 per day if out alone
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There is only 3 people in this world that knows how much i earn :) which is me/accountant and off course the tax man :'( and i think the one;s that are posting how much they earn should be aware there could be tax people on here so would be a good idea to keep our gobs shut :-X
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The things spoken on here are a load of twaddle and thats a fact. You get all sorts of idiots with no idea.
I have long since given up on trying to believe it but the trouble is newbies and people thinking of starting up read it.
exactly ;)
daz
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There is only 3 people in this world that knows how much i earn :) which is me/accountant and off course the tax man :'( and i think the one;s that are posting how much they earn should be aware there could be tax people on here so would be a good idea to keep our gobs shut :-X
So you fiddle your tax then?
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;D ;D ;D
You sound like you're trying to justify the expense to a potential custard.
I smell something here and it comes from the rear end of a male bovine.
Or perhaps you dont know what you are talking about and/or doing in the real world.
How long have you been in this business Matt?
A dam sight longer than most on here, over 14 years.
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It wasn't that long ago when you were scratching around looking for new customers I seem to remember.
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Yes thats because I moved to Essex from the midlands as I moved in with my girlfriend.
Everything is picking up very nicely now. must the time of year lol
winter isn't the best time to try and build a window cleaning round.
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if u wanna make loads of money have min charge of £300 thats how u makes loads of money simple
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I bet your biz is a better one this time mb. Thats why lancaster is so good he's done it a few times.
The trap we fall in is thinking we know everything- then we get a blank sheet of paper and do it better.
Of course then there's people like lee just born lucky.Jammy get.
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Funny enough slump, I am still learning lol
Certain things that worked in Leicester don't work down here and vice versa.
On the whole I am more aware of mistakes I have made from my round up in Leicester.
The first few months were hard, you just forget how hard it is to build a round.
My round has doubled in size in the past 5 weeks, I am not letting this slide, I am going to push hard and advertise heavily all through the summer.
I have someone lined up to help me out through the summer as I am getting 3-4 phone calls a day since I got back from Portugal (a week last Sunday)
I am getting a lot of gutter cleans and conservatory roof cleans. and I am 2 weeks behind with my window cleaning, I finished at 7 tonight and back out at 8 in the morning.
Matt
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MB where in essex ru?
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MB where in essex ru?
Paul my unit is in Maldon but I am from Burnham on Crouch.
Where abouts are you chap?
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im in Halstead m8, about 7miles up the road from Craigs unit :)
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im in Halstead m8, about 7miles up the road from Craigs unit :)
Paul do you cover Colchester area?
I have some customers in Marks Tey, Romford, Brentwood, Chelmsford, but mostly around South Woodham and Maldon.
I am covering loads of miles mate, It takes me 45 mins to get to Craigs from my house.
Matt
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I think for one man with WFP the upper limits of what you can turnover in a month on just windows only is around £ 3000 or so.
I turned over £2900 last month over 18 working days - doing around 6 hours labour a day. But believe me i was well knackered after that.
I think its about striking a balance between knowing the minimum amount you need to earn per month, and then how much extra labour you are prepared to go to earn more like a sort of bonus to yourself.
I have personally set my limit to £2500 revenue per month now as i do not want to burn myself each month.
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I bet your biz is a better one this time mb. Thats why lancaster is so good he's done it a few times.
The trap we fall in is thinking we know everything- then we get a blank sheet of paper and do it better.
Of course then there's people like lee just born lucky.Jammy get.
haha I wish i was born lucky mate! I agree that if starting from scratch it should be better and easier, we are all learning all the time, but its also easy to make changes along the way, there are so many different ways of doing things.
I always try to work smarter not harder, find something that works well and do more of it.
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Tonight I swopped a weekly 2 window clean at the local curry house for a weekly free balti ... how do I show that on my tax return :o
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Tonight I swopped a weekly 2 window clean at the local curry house for a weekly free balti ... how do I show that on my tax return :o
The value of the curry!
Earnings are only limited to what you can charge how much work you have and how many hours a week you work. You could do 60 hours at £50 ph or you could do 20 at £20 so thats £3000 or £400. Many people work for 60 hours a week.
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i bet theres not many window cleaners working 60 hour weeks stuart!!! :o :o
i work 30-35 hours "on the glass " on a full 5-6 day week(average 6 hours a day).sometimes 40 hours if im fitting in add on jobs at the end of a working day(conny roofs/fascias/soffits etc).
but of course bad weather and skiving off early/days when i cant get motivated/van problems etc all eat into hours worked.
i always take on new work at the right price and drop the odd one or two bad payers that crop up from time to time.also i put most of my prices up every year in april.(even if its just 50p!).
this all helps with profits.i will be taking the plunge into wfp soon so some of my prices will go up again(for extra windows cleaned,skylights etc).
im hoping after the initial outlay that the extra money made by getting round on time(or more often)coupled with extra cash from cleaning extra windows will cover the extra overheads so im still making the same money but ill be safer on my average working day.
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There is only 3 people in this world that knows how much i earn :) which is me/accountant and off course the tax man :'( and i think the one;s that are posting how much they earn should be aware there could be tax people on here so would be a good idea to keep our gobs shut :-X
So you fiddle your tax then?
Hi i do not fiddle the tax i have been window cleaning for over 25 years now and payed tax every year. if you read the post properly without jumping in with both feet you would not of posted a reply and looking at your post counter you are a newbie so in my eyes you do not know any better so i will not waste my time any further
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i bet theres not many window cleaners working 60 hour weeks stuart!!! :o :o
I doubt there are many turning over £50 every hour they work either. All I mean is that it is like saying how long is a piece of string. Prem footballers and sunday league players do the same thing.
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There is only 3 people in this world that knows how much i earn :) which is me/accountant and off course the tax man :'( and i think the one;s that are posting how much they earn should be aware there could be tax people on here so would be a good idea to keep our gobs shut :-X
So you fiddle your tax then?
Hi i do not fiddle the tax i have been window cleaning for over 25 years now and payed tax every year. if you read the post properly without jumping in with both feet you would not of posted a reply and looking at your post counter you are a newbie so in my eyes you do not know any better so i will not waste my time any further
What no comment i am suprised :o
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Is 20 quid per hr in london a proper wage for a window cleaner
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Tonight I swopped a weekly 2 window clean at the local curry house for a weekly free balti ... how do I show that on my tax return :o
wipe your arse on the tax return ;)
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Tonight I swopped a weekly 2 window clean at the local curry house for a weekly free balti ... how do I show that on my tax return :o
ian bell me on 07870537069
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Tonight I swopped a weekly 2 window clean at the local curry house for a weekly free balti ... how do I show that on my tax return :o
ian bell me on 07870537069
gav did you used to live in lpool?
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no m8 used to work up there ;D
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The myths of business;
Turn over does = salary.
Gross does not = slarary.
Net does not =salary.
Hourly rate doesnot=salary.
Salary is part of all these: truth.
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I would say Net is nearest to a salary.
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in the public sector anything left over they call a surplus.