Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JSMC on May 13, 2010, 05:59:39 pm
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possibly 20%
same old tories as before
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Problem is the country is nearly 1 trillion pounds in debt, what else do you suggest :-\
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I can't wait for it to be 20% it will be easy to calculate it in your head then :P
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there was a time in the 70s when the vat on some goods was 25% and that was a labour govt ;)
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labour conservatives liberals all the same
hit the working man
when was the last time the royal family or mps got a pay cut
tossers the lot of them
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Everybody knows that taxes would have to go up whoever came to power. VAT increase is one of the only options that avoids lower income families being hit. i.e there is no vat on food.
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when was the last time mps got a pay cut
today!
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good
first chance they get they will vote themselves longer hols to make up for it
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Everybody knows that taxes would have to go up whoever came to power. VAT increase is one of the only options that avoids lower income families being hit. i.e there is no vat on food.
But there is on petrol and diesel that transports the food. And it will get factored in to the general inflation rate that may determine how interest rates go for the mortgages.
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Wot a bunch of whingers! ;D
I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.
Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.
I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.
What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.
And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.
Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.
Rant over! ;D
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Wot a bunch of whingers! ;D
I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.
Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.
I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.
What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.
And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.
Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.
Rant over! ;D
Keep taking the drugs ::)
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GOLD!YOU TRULY ARE PURE GOLD!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
just think 80% of the worlds population hasnt got a pot to pee in.no clean water or proper sanitation.
mumbai slums anyone?(cash in hand/no tax/no questions asked!!)
didnt think so!!thank God we were born in this great country!! ;D ;D ;D
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Wot a bunch of whingers! ;D
I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.
Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.
I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.
What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.
And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.
Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.
Rant over! ;D
there's always one.
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Gold - spot on mate. I've done a fair amount of travelling in past incarnations and I can tell you most people in this country don't know they are born.
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Wot a bunch of whingers! ;D
I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.
Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.
I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.
What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.
And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.
Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.
Rant over! ;D
I can't find the link now but when I entered some details into a website recently, it turned out that I am in the richest 0.96% of the world's population. I find that hard to believe but it wouldn't surprise me if I'm in the richest 10%.
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Everybody knows that taxes would have to go up whoever came to power. VAT increase is one of the only options that avoids lower income families being hit. i.e there is no vat on food.
But there is on petrol and diesel that transports the food. And it will get factored in to the general inflation rate that may determine how interest rates go for the mortgages.
Petrol & diesel will go up in price irrespective of any vat rise and the poorest people in our communities ( which i was referring to) rarely have mortgages.
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Well said Gold.
Isn't it something like 1/3rd of the world's population have yet to make their first phonecall?
and 1 in 6 of the Worlds Population live on less than 1 dollar a day !
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MP s had a pay cut yesterday by 5% so lets get our country`s dept down so we can live again.
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Wot a bunch of whingers! ;D
I look around 90% of this world and thank the "falling of chance - aka good luck" that I was born in Britain to a working class family.
Sure I could be in Canada or Oz but I could just as well be in Eritrea, Bangladesh or Haiti.
I actually live in a place where my healthcare, while not perfect, is in place and affordable to me; my mother is cossetted in her old age, where I can work and earn to the best of my ability and have plenty of leisure time. My kids can go to college for free. I can own my own house or live in comfy accommodation at reasonable rent. I live in a country where a window cleaner - a window cleaner for goodness sake - can run two vehicles, go abroad for holidays, drink and eat out inexpensively.
What's not to be content with? I don't mind my Hungarian, Indian and British neighbours (even the chavs next door are better now the kids are at college and their stepfather is back on the dustbins). The police/council have evicted the area's asbo family (finally) and the twoccers seem to have been curbed by immobilisers and law enforcement. The beat of rotors comes round reassuringly often to chase the local druggies.
And politically, all my life it's swung between labour and tories with a bit of LD in local government - they are "all the same" - but in a way that curbs accesses and allows for improvement. The worst I have known is power cuts and strikes in the 70's - good fun as a kid - and waste not being collected.
Sure I can cock my life up or walk under a bus - but hey, stop moaning and look for the positives.
Rant over! ;D
Correct! Especially about the 70`s.
I take it you`re referring to southern window cleaners though. Eating out? :o.
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need a good war
that will kick start the building industry and everything else will follow
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need a good war
that will kick start the building industry and everything else will follow
Good idea ::).
It took over 50 years to pay off the debt from the last "good war".
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dont hear of any recession in serbia theyve gone it down to a fine art
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dont hear of any recession in serbia theyve gone it down to a fine art
So the conflict in Serbia was part of their economic policy?
Anyway, there`s high unemployment in Serbia at the moment.
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cant be theres no one left there they all live in east london and are working on the olympic village
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cant be theres no one left there they all live in east london and are working on the olympic village
Ok. So their war didn`t do them any good then ;D.
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i have some fantastic ideas of policies for getting this country up and running
i kept the conservative candidate on my doorstep for over a hour and a half when he knocked on my door
after that not 1 more visitor
who says the parties dont talk--
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disagree- had a couple of good years rebuilding then earnt enough to escape
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disagree- had a couple of good years rebuilding then earnt enough to escape
Why escape if they have it good over there?
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Places like the uk are a easy touch
housed fed given benefits even given a nice lump sum to go home just enough to by a new truck leaving a few bob to get a moody passport and start the process all over again
great Britain
unless you're born here
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You've had it easy too long,.. VAT is 21.% in Ireland for goods and 13.5% for services,....
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My mates from Dublin and can't afford to live in Ireland
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My mates from Dublin and can't afford to live in Ireland
I know the feeling,.. in a country where everything is miles away there is no decent public transport system so every family needs a car,.. most families 2 or 3 cars. The government were charging "Import duty" on vehicles which EU law forbade,.. when this illegal practice was highlighted they simply renamed it "Vehicle registration tax" and carried on,...
Most cars here cost 60 - 80% more than they do in the UK!
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disgusting
the government is full or wrong uns
lining their own pockets
at every level
they wonder why black markets flurish
and people prefer to work in cash
i think im going to grow my hair and live in a converted ambulance
(or a tree)
the more they tax us the more the waste
i think im turning into a anachist
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One of the best things that could happen to this country would be for whoever is in power to develop a strategy for the rebirth of british manufacturing industry.
All sectors of trade suffer in a downturn but wouldn't it be good if we had a prestigous world class manufacturer just like the rest of g8 countries.
It is a travesty that we are a service based economy producing diddly squat.
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cant be theres no one left there they all live in east london and are working on the olympic village
My newphews dad is serbian but lives in west London, not sure if his security are doing the olympics though lol
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Probably couldn't read English when he arrived went west instead of east i bet he is there working for cash in hand and not paying any taxes
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I have no faith that the government will ever be able to fix the mess its made. My short term plan is moving towards self sufficiency,... I'm hoping to build my own home in a few years & it'll be 100% energy self sufficient (wind turbine & solar panels with a HUGE battery bank) and i'll be growing my own veg & maybe even raising a few pigs/cows/chickens too.
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thats the life
a nice canal boat would do me
drop out the system ---ask for nothing and give nothing
pay my own way
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One of the best things that could happen to this country would be for whoever is in power to develop a strategy for the rebirth of british manufacturing industry.
How's that possible when the cost of labour is far cheaper in poorer countries than over here, and employers aren't 'shackled' with health and safety regulations or trade unions and can make 'slaves' out of their 'employees'?
And although most of this post doesn't reflect it, we're spoilt in this country.
Try living somewhere where if you get sick and can't afford medical treatment, you die.
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drop out the system ---ask for nothing and give nothing
What about what you've taken already? Did you go to school? What about the police force, fire service, and probably lots of other stuff we all benefit from?
And what about - for example - if you contract cancer? Will you ask the NHS for help?
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oi tosh,
i was just sat here chomping on a piece of nicorette and realised I was chomping in time to your avatar :-\
I've found a cheaper alternative to nicorette. It comes in a small packet and you can buy it from any newsagents or supermarket. ;D
17th July I'm going to stop; properly this time; no NRT; I don't think it helps, it just swaps the method you take your nicotine.
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One of the best things that could happen to this country would be for whoever is in power to develop a strategy for the rebirth of british manufacturing industry.
How's that possible when the cost of labour is far cheaper in poorer countries than over here, and employers aren't 'shackled' with health and safety regulations or trade unions and can make 'slaves' out of their 'employees'?
And although most of this post doesn't reflect it, we're spoilt in this country.
Try living somewhere where if you get sick and can't afford medical treatment, you die.
That`s true. We all want the cheap foreign made goods but some then get all moral and harp on about buying British. Where are the PC`s and lap tops that we`re all sat in front of now made?
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why the 17th? birthday?
I've got a 'stressful event' on the 14th July, so the first Saturday after that I'm going to stop smoking and maybe take a few days off work while my system detoxes from the nicotine. It'll also give me a while to do some 'mind preparation' and read up on stopping smoking and stuff.
Good luck and apologies for hi-jacking this thread; it could be better in the off topic area?
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Police are a wate of money as are most other services
dOnt start me on the nhs
next biggest bunch of pricks next to the government I've paid in for 23 years as has my misses
my mother and father 45 years
between us we've paid over 25 grand to private healthcare as the treatment was not avaliable
the treatment both my misses and father recieved was distgusting
The nhs should be dispanded
private was fantastic but I shouldn't have to pay
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Have we had some lunchtime beer?
;D
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Can't afford it any more all my money goes on tax and private healthcare
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Whether you agree with the system or not I personally believe it to be stacked against me
Spain is a great example
265 euros every month covers school healthcare and services if you are self employed- Max rate is about 300 dependant on age family etc ie how much you use as a family opposed to if u are single
flat rate doesn't matter what you earn
16 percent their version of vat
it is also common practice not to declare all for vat
your contributions are hardly ever quiries unless you get to greedy
There healthcare services and schools are better than the uk
also they give nothing to immigrants unless they contribute
that to me sounds are better system
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Whether you agree with the system or not I personally believe it to be stacked against me
Spain is a great example
265 euros every month covers school healthcare and services if you are self employed- Max rate is about 300 dependant on age family etc ie how much you use as a family opposed to if u are single
flat rate doesn't matter what you earn
16 percent their version of vat
it is also common practice not to declare all for vat
your contributions are hardly ever quiries unless you get to greedy
There healthcare services and schools are better than the uk
also they give nothing to immigrants unless they contribute
that to me sounds are better system
Yes, mate, Spain is a great example and the Spanish system is obviously working:
Spain has the highest level of unemployment of any OECD country. In the first quarter of 2009 Spain accounted for nearly 55 percent of total job losses across the Euro-zone, and around 35 percent of job losses in the European Union.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jul2009/spai-j16.shtml
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And they still manage to run a fantastic system on a percentage of the contributions that the uk recieve
why
waste and mismanagement is rife here
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Tosh I don't reckon your a windy I suspect your a labour mp or work for local government
all bitter and twisted as you are out of a job where you could claim thousands in expenses second morgages and get people like me to pay for your pornos from my taxes
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Tosh I don't reckon your a windy I suspect your a labour mp or work for local government
;D
I am a socialist I guess, but I'm a Geordie, so that's to be expected.
But with regards Spain, there's lots of differences between Spanish healthcare and British. The Spanish eat a better diet and don't trough battered deep-fried Mars Bars on a daily basis. Also they have a different culture; you won't find many old age people's homes, since they're a family orientated society, they look after their elderly relatives themselves at home.
But with regards to your own views, they're generalistic and full of holes.
I have actually lived/served in some rough places which didn't have ANY formal police force worth bothering with (Bosnia and Kosovo) and seen poverty at it's worst; I could've bought a prostitute for the cost of two cigarettes in one place (I didn't; it seemed more like exploitation than purchasing sex). I also spent 8 months in Central America, and that was pretty rough too; there were many places I just wouldn't go - even in daylight - and being part of a big squad of lads, because of the drugs/poverty/crime/lack of real security.
So? So what if VAT goes upto 20%? We're still very lucky people. Now stop your whinging! The UK is still a great place to live. ;D
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I could've bought a prostitute for the cost of two cigarettes in one place (I didn't; it seemed more like exploitation than purchasing sex).
what would have been a fair amount of cigarettes?
A 200 carton? It was 1993 mind, and in Tuzla. The Bosnian currency had crumbled and the German currency (DMs) and cigs had replaced it. I actually gave the woman's son (the son aged around 12 spoke English and was prostituting his Mother), a few packs of free cigs, but I'm not into sexual exploitation so I left her alone.
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But it could be better rant over
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Gives new meaning to a 20 a day habit
wonder what a big fat king Eddie would have got me
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Same way as germans and americans manage to have manufacturing industry tosh
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Look guys stop winging and listen and read these words. :) :) you feel much better after this.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiyT_RjOO4&feature=player_embedded
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiyT_RjOO4&feature=player_embedded
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Same way as germans and americans manage to have manufacturing industry tosh
Have you any links comparing the US or German manufacturing output with China?
How do you know Germany and the US are doing fine compared with the UK? I'm not arguing, but again, I seem to hear one line generalisations that may not show the whole truth.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiyT_RjOO4&feature=player_embedded
;)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiyT_RjOO4&feature=player_embedded
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Thank you for that bosh, great link ;D
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you more than welcome my friend. :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKiyT_RjOO4&feature=player_embedded
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Thank you for that bosh, great link ;D
;D Well done!
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I am glad you like it guys, you see the effect of watching this video clip? Its very powerful, every time you feel complain about something or some one, just watch this video and it will stops your complaining on its track.
Its brilliant. ;) :)
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I am glad you like it guys, you see the effect of watching this video clip? Its very powerful, every time you feel complain about something or some one, just watch this video and it will stops your complaining on its track.
Its brilliant. ;) :)
Well done bosh!
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you more than welocme Gold. :)