dazmond

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Free window clean offer...
« on: June 21, 2022, 04:38:06 pm »
So who does first cleans for free?

Seen a UK window clean van this morning working my patch..... ;D

Big letters on the front FREE WINDOW CLEAN OFFER.....

discuss!
price higher/work harder!

Soupy

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2022, 04:41:56 pm »
Never do your job for free.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell

dazmond

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2022, 04:45:27 pm »
Never do your job for free.

I never have but UK WINDOW CLEAN will do the first clean free of charge for new customers with no contract to sign for ongoing cleans... ::)roll
price higher/work harder!

Shrek

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2022, 05:17:35 pm »
Not me , I always charge the 3 monthly price for every single 1st clean. The 1st cleans are the hardest! Forget doing it for free. Iv seen them around too , it looks desperate to me .

Splash & dash

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2022, 05:26:54 pm »
Never do your job for free.

I never have but UK WINDOW CLEAN will do the first clean free of charge for new customers with no contract to sign for ongoing cleans... ::)roll


I expect there will be some catch , if not they will be busy fools 😂😂😂

Jonny 87

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2022, 06:21:57 pm »
https://ukwindowclean.com/free-clean-offer.html

Looks like no catch…… Mayb this works but I don’t know. Surely you’d be picking up all the messers in the area looking for one offs.
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SB Cleaning

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2022, 06:26:46 pm »
Absolute madness if you ask me..

Blue Frog Systems

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2022, 06:28:25 pm »
Shall we sign up the Queen for each of her places..... There all homes
Only those who risk going too far will truly know how far they can actually go

NBwcs

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2022, 07:08:50 pm »
Extreme undercutting, now when I started out some 18yrs ago, they would have been nailed to the cross by the goolies for such a thing. If it is successful then there will be copycats, and it could become a problem for everyone, although we all have a hardcore who will always stay loyal.

dazmond

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2022, 07:12:01 pm »
It must work for them as UK WINDOW CLEAN are a national company...

My thoughts are is that they upsell add ons and throw the windows in for free for new customers on a first visit which could work out very well for them...
price higher/work harder!

DJW

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2022, 10:00:00 pm »
Who cares? We all have established rounds.

Smudger

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2022, 11:44:42 pm »
National ? - really

I'd query that im sure these photos belong to someone else....
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Smudger

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2022, 11:47:48 pm »
Isn't this just a glorified "we will find you a window cleaner" site than actually a large company?

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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deeege

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2022, 06:09:11 am »
Their vans graphics look like they’ve been designed and fitted by a 6 year old. The drivers always look miserable and in a mega rush too. Strange way to business.
"....and it's lend me ten pounds, I'll buy you a drink, and mother wake me early in the morning."

Granny

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2022, 09:51:54 am »
A mate of mine took them up on the offer of a free clean - there are load of their vans around here. I think they are based in Leeds.
Anyway they did the first clean then, without being asked or any agreement entered into, they cleaned them every month when he was at work and invoiced him.
He ignored them for months and months - then got a letter from a Debt Collection Agency demanding payment for the total!
I believe that is their S.O.P.

Stoots

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #15 on: June 22, 2022, 12:00:09 pm »
They are or were based In Leeds.

I went for a job interview with them back in 2014 before I started cleaning windows, I figured it was a good way to see what's involved and get some experience.

Even then the guy interviewing was telling me they had 8 vans with a plan to go nation wide. I got offered the job but turned it down as they wanted me to do a 2 week unpaid trial. They were actually targeting people on jobswekers allowance as the gov would still pay their dole for the trial period.

Their vans are battered with ibc tanks strapped in and they do employee some scruffy looking chaps I've seen loads about round here.

But actually they are not cheap, their prices from customers I've spoke to who have used them were way above mine.

As for the free trial it obviously works or they wouldn't do it I know it's easy for us solo guys to think it's daft but in bigger businesses this kind of thing goes on all the time.

I used to work in halfords on the bikes section and was told lots of bikes get sold at break even prices or sometimes a loss as they make their money upselling accessories or service plans. 

As far as I'm aware they are nationwide now as I've read loads of these posts people seeing them all over the country so you have to use your noggin and conclude that they do the free cleans for a reason.

Stoots

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2022, 12:03:50 pm »
Their vans graphics look like they’ve been designed and fitted by a 6 year old. The drivers always look miserable and in a mega rush too. Strange way to business.

That's because they are on minimum wage and have crazy amounts of work to do. I spoke to one driver who was tasked with 40 houses and often worked till 6pm .

Ascjim

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2022, 03:00:37 pm »
There is someone around my area at cleans and empty's GFS yearly for free if you have a monthly gutter clean.

Say he charges £15 per clean, 15x12=180.

He goes there 12 times a year.

If it was us, we would go there once per year and charge 180 to do the gutters. F the windows.

But I get it tho.

Shrek

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #18 on: June 22, 2022, 05:16:54 pm »
There is someone around my area at cleans and empty's GFS yearly for free if you have a monthly gutter clean.

Say he charges £15 per clean, 15x12=180.

He goes there 12 times a year.

If it was us, we would go there once per year and charge 180 to do the gutters. F the windows.

But I get it tho.

What’s emptying GFS?

Perfect Windows

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2022, 05:34:11 pm »
National ? - really

I'd query that im sure these photos belong to someone else....


Indeed. The most cleaned conservatory roof in the country. Here's a small selection of people who have cleaned it:



Vin

Shrek

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2022, 06:16:21 pm »
National ? - really

I'd query that im sure these photos belong to someone else....


Indeed. The most cleaned conservatory roof in the country. Here's a small selection of people who have cleaned it:



Vin

Wow that’s clever! How do you do that? I’m gonna see if anyone has nicked my pictures 😁

NBwcs

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #21 on: June 22, 2022, 06:38:41 pm »
A mate of mine took them up on the offer of a free clean - there are load of their vans around here. I think they are based in Leeds.
Anyway they did the first clean then, without being asked or any agreement entered into, they cleaned them every month when he was at work and invoiced him.
He ignored them for months and months - then got a letter from a Debt Collection Agency demanding payment for the total!
I believe that is their S.O.P.

Brings back memories of those cowboys "Cleansafe". Undercut one of my shops, did the clean then hit them with an invoice for more than they quoted and more than i was charging.

Perfect Windows

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #22 on: June 22, 2022, 07:05:35 pm »
Wow that’s clever! How do you do that? I’m gonna see if anyone has nicked my pictures 😁

Tineye reverse image search. https://tineye.com/

Found a few people lifting our pics over the years.

Vin

Shrek

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #23 on: June 22, 2022, 07:18:39 pm »
Wow that’s clever! How do you do that? I’m gonna see if anyone has nicked my pictures 😁

Tineye reverse image search. https://tineye.com/

Found a few people lifting our pics over the years.

Vin

Cheers!

Smudger

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2022, 09:30:15 pm »
great post vin - so who originally took the photo?

it looks close to one I did 8/9 years ago - but im sure it was someone else's on here..

Darran
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

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Shrek

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2022, 09:52:17 pm »
great post vin - so who originally took the photo?

it looks close to one I did 8/9 years ago - but im sure it was someone else's on here..

Darran

I thought it was one I did 😆, I don’t recognise the house though. I bet there’s millions of the same type of con roof out there…

M.c.s

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2022, 09:53:39 pm »
It was that guy who went to jail for drug dealing

M.c.s

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2022, 09:54:19 pm »
Richard something

Perfect Windows

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2022, 10:40:51 pm »
great post vin - so who originally took the photo?

it looks close to one I did 8/9 years ago - but im sure it was someone else's on here..

Darran

Can't recall but he was on here.

When we started and had no images of work done I emailed the guy whose work it was. His response was something like "no problem, everyone's using it anyway".

First conny roof I did I replaced his pic with a picture of my own work. Which was promptly nicked. As was our entire website. But that's another tale.

Vin

tlwcs

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #29 on: June 23, 2022, 06:01:27 am »
great post vin - so who originally took the photo?

it looks close to one I did 8/9 years ago - but im sure it was someone else's on here..

Darran

Can't recall but he was on here.

When we started and had no images of work done I emailed the guy whose work it was. His response was something like "no problem, everyone's using it anyway".

First conny roof I did I replaced his pic with a picture of my own work. Which was promptly nicked. As was our entire website. But that's another tale.

Vin

Lol I remember that Vin , copied the entire site and just changed the contact numbers as I recall.
Can’t think who it was though
Tony

Soupy

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Re: Free window clean offer...
« Reply #30 on: June 23, 2022, 06:21:57 am »
great post vin - so who originally took the photo?

it looks close to one I did 8/9 years ago - but im sure it was someone else's on here..

Darran

Can't recall but he was on here.

When we started and had no images of work done I emailed the guy whose work it was. His response was something like "no problem, everyone's using it anyway".

First conny roof I did I replaced his pic with a picture of my own work. Which was promptly nicked. As was our entire website. But that's another tale.

Vin

Lol I remember that Vin , copied the entire site and just changed the contact numbers as I recall.
Can’t think who it was though
Tony

Same thing happened to me.
Every line of serious work that I have written since 1936 has been written, directly or indirectly, against totalitarianism and for democratic socialism, as I understand it - George Orwell