ian loughlin

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commercial pricing
« on: April 02, 2008, 10:23:42 am »
I know there is no definitive answer...

but can someone give me a rough guide to what i should be charging for commercial jobs.. ie: Offices, hotels, pubs.

I like to charge by the sq ft.

Commercial will be less than domestic???

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 04:08:45 pm »
About £1.25 per sq yd / metre, depending on the size and what equipment you have at your disposal.

Simon

COLIN BRIGHT

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 05:08:54 pm »
double that!

liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 05:18:53 pm »
and maybe even double that....

£1:25 a yard isnt worth going to work for.  Even if you are cleaning a vast amount of carpet £1:25 just isnt enough.

Best, Dave.


Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 06:40:15 pm »
Like I said, you're price has to be based on what equipment you've got.
We use twin RX20's on a Maxx 470, soon to be three RX20's on a Titan 875, when it arrives next month.
We do a restaurant twice a year that measures 1243 sq yds and we do it in three and a half hours with a drying time of one hour twenty minutes, that's 355 sq yds an hour, that's £443.00 per hour.

If you're your combination cleaning it with a portable machine, or wanding it with a small TM you won't get that sort of production, so it follows that you have to charge more to fit with the time it is going to take to complete and make it worth your while.
Simon

jeff1966

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 06:45:40 pm »
Don't price your self out of the market.Prices vary from place to place,work out how long it's going to take you,and what your hourly rate is.Let's not forget we're cleaners,as you will have probably noticed there a lot of greedy c/c out there. At the end of the day I don't think  going on a 2 day carpet & upholstery cleaning course justifise  charging silly money, it's not like going to university for 3 years is it!

elliott cleaning

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2008, 06:50:18 pm »
£1.25 per square meter, double that, £2.50, double that again, £5.00 per meter square.  Yes Dave, I've cleaned art galleries in the West End for that sort of money and more without them batting an eyelid,  but I don't think Simon was referring to that kind of commercial work

klinger (spa clean)

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 07:07:43 pm »
Did my first office carpet the other weekend took a flyer went in with £2.50 per sq mtr, as it was saturday work thought its all extra even if I under-sell myself,did it in 9hrs got £320, they were pleased with the price and I was reasonably happy with my days work. Wasnt massive money but not a bad days pay really. Oh used HWE.
klinger of spa clean.

markpowell

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 07:21:31 pm »
I charge 30p per sq ft using hwe
mark

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2008, 07:35:10 pm »
£2.50 per sq metre for a small to medium commercial job is fine and reasonably competitive, but if you start trying to charge that kind of money on anything larger you may get the odd job here and there but you certainly won't get a steady flow of work because you're too expensive and therefore uncompetitive. Commercial buyers aren't stupid, they know what everything costs and how much is a fair price for a job and what is not. If you want to build a commercial client base then you have to get your prices so that they are both competitive and rewarding.

Simon

liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2008, 07:45:28 pm »
Simon, I understand what you are saying about being competitive.  I would say in reply, why would you want to be competitive.  I am not and dont claim to be.  By not being competitive I dont have competition, simple really.

Best, Dave.




mark shannon

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2008, 07:54:20 pm »
I think its a case of horses for courses even as low as £1.25s/m commercial can be profitable.

mark_roberts

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 07:59:07 pm »
Charge as much as you can get.

Thats what every business does its just no one will admit to it.

Mark

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2008, 08:01:22 pm »
Dave,

If you live in an area where there are no other carpet cleaners say for 50 miles!! I can understand why competition is not an issue. However in an area saturated with carpet cleaners, every job you quote for is against all other quotes. The customer will then narrow down the competition and pick the company they believe will give them the best service and quality and that's where being competitive comes in.
Simon




klinger (spa clean)

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2008, 08:07:14 pm »
I agree with simon in that if your offering a good service at a reasonable price you are by doing this being competitive, even if you dont realise it.
klinger of spa clean.

liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2008, 08:40:53 pm »
But thats kind of my point.

I dont offer a reasonable price.  I am more than  most every one else.  Hence I dont have the competition.  If the client only wants to spend £1:25 a sq yard or 30p a foot which is a bit better then they have that choice to go to those cleaners.

 That suits me too as then I dont have to work for approx 12p a square foot.  I am simply worth more than that as indeed what I chose to clean is, if that makes sense.  Might upset some I am sure but each to their own.

In terms of carpet cleaners in or around "my area" then I may just have more competition then any other person or company on here. 

But I stress again, I dont want or ever have been competitive.

Best, Dave.

francis

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2008, 08:54:42 pm »
What must be taken into account with some of these posts is as to whether carpet cleaning is the only & dependant source of income or whether it is an also run business

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2008, 09:58:26 pm »
Dave,

I think reading between the lines that you're simply taking the opportunity to tell us all that you are just such a fantastic carpet cleaner that you can charge whatever you like and people will pay it.
The trouble is the majority of colleagues on here can't afford to be quite so complacent as they have bills to pay, children to feed and a business to maintain, or is it your advance to the guy who ask the question to quote £5 per sq metre despite the fact that he may well be surrounded by competitors who will beat him every time because they want the work, whereas you clearly don't.

Simon
 

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2008, 10:09:15 pm »
I think reading between the lines that Dave is saying in around about way that we are not selling our services properly, if you have the best equipment you should shout about it from the roof tops and realistically not be bothered what or who the competition are because you have sold yourself so well on it being an exceptional job that they are buying YOU.

These forums can work for and against in terms of pricing, some on here will say that they need to raise their prices because they didn't know what was achievable and some will say that they couldn't possibly charge that price as there is too much competition in their area, it comes down to the person that does the selling or as they say state side 'selling the sizzle not the steak'

Shaun

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2008, 10:19:26 pm »
Shaun,
As always you make a very valid point.
The best 'shouting from the rooftops' you can possibly do is show, don't tell. Shouting from the rooftops is just words, mumbo jumbo as far as the client is concerned.
We have a system that is absolutely state-of-the-art and can clean more carpet to a higher specification than almost any other cleaning system on the planet. Tell a client that and they only want one thing, proof.
We get the jobs in preference to our competitors because we can do the job faster and better than anyone else. Like I said earlier, commercial buyers, facilities managers are not stupid and they know perfectly well what the going rate is for carpet cleaning and will simply laugh at someone quoting £5 psm when they know they can get the job done every bit as well, if not better by using other, more competitive companies. Dave doesn't need nor want the work, that much is perfectly obvious, either that or he has found a seam of customers that will pay any price to get there carpet cleaned, if so, good on him.

Simon

liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2008, 10:50:24 pm »
Shaun, very close as always in your comments, well most of the time he says with a smile.

Simon, I understand what you are trying to say but be careful in what you assume. Try not to read between the lines cos you may just miss the lines that have the words in.

 I have never said now or on any of my posts about any ability I have or have not to do with carpet cleaning.

My comments are always based in general that on the whole, we as carpet cleaners dont charge enough for our services.

And £1:25 a square yard generally isnt enough, generally.

As to if I want work, sometimes yes.

Do I need work, sometimes yes.

Will I do work for £1:25, no, never.

Nothing wrong with that.

Simon, I shouldnt assume as you have done but lets say I do and I assume that you are good at what you do.  Very good maybe, the best maybe.

 Now go and charge your next client more than you normally would.  Or charge  the same client more the next time.

If they pay you to do the job at the higher price then it is you that they want as their cleaner.  If they dont then it is the price that they are interested in and not you or your company.  This what creates competition. 

I seek for the first, that it is me they want and not the price.  This then affords me to charge a higher price and so I make myself non competitive.

Hope this makes sense, best, Dave.










Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2008, 10:59:56 pm »
For all of the money you spend on your specialist cleaing system shouldn't you be paid a specialist price?

If the fund managers are blown away by the demo then you should be able to get more towards a high figure than £1.25 a metre, only trouble is the onger you have been in the game the more you think "I can't charge that!", look at the Bank managers that go onto Fast Track, they go in with a porti with a smidgen of your experience and quote double and get these jobs because they are full of themelves.

A great demo, a friendly but professional chat and a verbal then email quote all in a quick space of time so you look to be on the ball and perhaps a bit of 'balls' and you've double your profit.

Shaun

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2008, 12:06:59 am »
No disrespect to anyone but clearly you guy's don't have much experience of the world of commercial carpet cleaning, either that or you think a couple of hundred yards of office carpet equals a commercial job. You are trying to apply the parameters that apply in the domestic market to the commercial market.
There are no cosy chats with the Facilities Managers, you are shown the job, you get to ask your questions about access, time available for the job etc etc and off you trot.  Yes, sure, when you call on a domestic customer you might well end up having a chat over a cup of tea and have your chance to charm her into a high price sale, but it just isn't like that in commercial. Like I keep on saying, these guy's know the going rate for what they want done and most often will be seeking a minimum of three quotes. You try and charge them two and three times the going rate and they'll simply laugh at your quote and book the guy that got the price right.

Earning £440 per hour at £1.25 psm is hardly got to put anyone into poverty. Most people would kill to have the opportunity to earn that much in a day, let alone an hour.
Simon




COLIN BRIGHT

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2008, 08:15:59 am »
yes you're right Shaun.................i'll name that tune in............

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #24 on: April 03, 2008, 08:29:50 am »
This is a really interesting thread and just shows you can be very successful with differing approaches to CC.

The question I'd ask is who else does acres and acres of commercial per job and charges double what Simon does? If there is then it proves you can do it. If there isn't it hasn't been done yet.

There is also more to lose to test out the high side. Adding even 10% to Simon's quotes is a lot of dosh and if he loses the job or worse contract that's big money.

The other thing is what's the differential in price between contracts you get and what your competition were going to charge (ifyou can find out). If it's the same and you got the business it shows you could do better.



Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #25 on: April 03, 2008, 08:38:55 am »
I'm really enjoying this thread and if anybody watched "The Apprentice" last night on BBC1 (repeated on BBCi for 7 days later) then this topic was amply illustrated by the Girls Team's approach to pricing the cleaning of laundry.

For those who missed it, they pitched for the cleaning of a hotel's laundry and decided to pitch at £4.99 per item. This would have meant a bill of £4999 when the hotel's normal bill for such a level of cleaning was £200. So as Simon says you have to understand market pricing. (BTW their unique selling point was that the hotel could have access to a 24 hour hot line to follow the progress of the laundry :o :o.)The girls then went to a small restaurant and pitched for about 60 items of laundry and were prepared to do it all for £10. (Way too cheap as the owner wouldn't believe there was no catch. The girls boosted the price to £15 by saying they would iron it!!!!). So as Dave says, extreme underselling, as they were desperate to generate income rather than understand the value of their service.

Turning to specifics. People ask me if I would expand my business and take on other workers etc. No, is the answer. Many reasons but amongst them probably I would not be very good at delegation/management but predominately because my clients are buying me as an individual and what I stand for. They are not buying "Doctor Carpet" and are prepared to pay a premium for me as opposed to paying a premium for Doctor Carpet and then not getting the Head Honcho.

As such I could probably charge even more but like Shaun says there does come a point when you think "I can't possibly charge that" because it you were to reverse matters and make yourself a client commissioning a carpet cleaner and then worked out the hourly rate you would certainly be thinking and asking many more questions before simply giving the go-ahead for the work. I'm not saying you shouldn't charge it, it's just a case of becoming aware of perceptions.
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2008, 08:54:06 am »
You can't have one fixed price for commercial cleaning. We will go as low as £1.25 but higher depending on the size of the job and the state of the carpets. There has to be flexibility in your pricing because you are competing for the business, the client has made sure of that by inviting at least two other companies to quote for the same job.

If you've worked for the client before and your quoting for a new or repeat job you have to decide whether to charge more this time because this time they are buy YOU, or do you pay more homage to the fact that they have stuck with you and so quote them at the same rate as before. They may well be buying YOU but they are not just buying YOU the person, it's you, the quality of your work, the level of service given AND the price. Don't think for a split second that once you get your feet under the table you can then charge whatever you like because that is commercial suicide.
That said, you do over the years collect a certain number of customers who will have you at any price and to one extent or another we all have customers like that, but let them get the slightest whiff of greed or complacency and you're out.

Simon

Doctor Carpet (Ret'd)

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2008, 09:09:18 am »
Agreed :)
Diplomacy: the art of letting other people have your way

cjultra

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2008, 09:41:51 am »
Adding to this 1.25 per square metre or square yard can differ quite alot if this pricing is used for commercial work. It either works out to:
13.88888 pence per sq ft if priced from 1.25 per sq yrd  OR
11.61289 pence per sq ft if priced from 1.25 per sq mtr

Therefore this can make alot of difference when quoting for a large premises.

As Simon states, there's different charges for all types of carpet cleaning and this can depend on many factors:

Type of carpet fibre
Is the carpet loom or tile
Is there adequate ventilation
Size of job
Is the floor empty
Does the floor have lots of items to move incl. personal items under workstations
Is the floor clean or filthy
Has is been left for many years without cleaning
Chemicals utilised
large amounts of gum
Incorporating charges for vacuum cleaning and drying

More can be added to the list, but it's some things that need to be taken into account.

Simon's job that takes him 3.5 hours to clean 1,243 sq. yrds or mtrs enables him to clean properly, using the best equipment to offer great end results and take less time to complete the work. If on the other hand it was an office that had been badly vacuumed for 5+ years, never been CC'd before will require 5 times more work/labour involved, more chemicals but not neccessarily be able to charge 5 times more for the work.

I had a Client that added up the charge and divide it by the coverage and men that were on site and thought it quite expensive. Maybe he'd prefer a line of a dozen workers paid minimum wage, given a bucket of chemical and brush to clean the carpet and take 10 times longer, yet find it normal for a plumber to charge 180.00 to unblock 2 urinals that took 20 minutes to carry out.

david_green

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2008, 09:46:45 am »
Hi Simon

The figures you quote for the restaurant are for how many technicians?

Thanks

ian loughlin

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #30 on: April 03, 2008, 10:20:42 am »
SO... going back to my original question, how much to charge for commercial.

I would be right in saying    15p sq ft   is a good medium, which can raise or lower depending on the specific job.


liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2008, 10:43:02 am »
Ian, yes 15p a foot for commercial is a good start.

Simon, if its that cut throat as you are suggesting and I am not saying that it is or isnt, then find different clients.

I hardly ever quote a job, maybe 1 out of 20 jobs.  Accordingly I as I have said before  dont have any competiton.  If I had competition I would imagine I would lose out on most every job I do. 

So, I seek out those that just want it done by who has been recommended, no question of price really or at least very rarely.

Not that I havent been where you are at, work wise or price wise but learned very quickly to find better clients.

On the whole, those clients both domestic and commecial that want to pay less or pay cheep, I dont want as a client.  So I go find those that I do want as a client.

A few on here have taken some advice of mine and have put their prices up for no reason whatsoever.  They didnt get any or much or a refusal from the client and so everyone is happy.  Client is happy with the job done and the cleaner is happy for making a little bit more than HE or SHE had thought was the price it should be.

A lot on here suggest that me or anyone charging a high price is ripping off the customer.    My answer to that is for those cleaners who go in too cheep are allowing themseves to be ripped off by their own customer.

I just wont allow a client to do that to me and nor should you.  What you get for the said restaurant is a lot of money I dont contest.  Its just that for the amount of carpet you have to clean, you are being ripped off.  If you are happy with that then thats fine.  Me, no chance.

Best, Dave


Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2008, 12:18:07 pm »
Dave,
How on earth can you be being ripped off by a client that is paying you over £400 per hour to clean their carpet, that's absolutely preposterous because at that earn rate it's tantamount to printing money and you want me to dump them and find a client that will pay me even more. I think your inexperience at this level is beginning to shine through, but I do respect where you're coming from but you simply cannot screw large commercial clients in the way that perhaps you can with smaller clients because. Like I keep saying these people know how much things cost and what the going rate is for a particular service.

Ian,
You have to decide what a commercial job is. What I mean by that is you have to sort out where domestic jobs turn into small commercial, I mean yardage wise.
If your domestic rate is £2.50 you begin to discount down from that for the bigger jobs, until you get to £1.25 which I would suggest should only apply when your approaching say the  700 - 1,000 yard mark.
You then have to take into account how much you want / need the job, how long it is likely to take based on what equipment and manpower you have and that has to be balanced against the clients time frame for the job to be done.
If you need any help or advice you can email me anytime.

Simon

Karl Wildey

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #33 on: April 03, 2008, 12:25:57 pm »
I think you are all missing the point Simon has raised. He is charging £1.25 and doing massive job for it, and making £400+ a hour, what ever way you argue the point, he is making 400+ a hour, so he is doing something right. You may get away with £2.50 but it will be for smaller areas and no way near the 400 mark.

I charge £1.40 - 3.00 depending on job and its size

liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #34 on: April 03, 2008, 12:43:33 pm »
Simon, this of course could go back and forwards so I will just make one more comment.  Actually two.

One, dont think about what my experiences may or may not be as you have no idea what it is I do or how it is I do it.

You have made it quite clear what you do and how it is you do it so it is fair for people, me included to make a comment.

The second is your comment on being ripped off or not by your charges.  Again the 400 an hour sounds good but for the amount of carpet you have had to clean is just not enough.  So in my opinion which is just that I wouldnt do it.

I would perhaps be more inclined to accept the 400 an hour if I was working by myself but with all your beliefs in the I think RX 20 and your multi-person crew to operate them it is your client that is taking the mickey.

If I had that amount of yardidge to clean I would only work on average one or 2 days a week, oh yeah, thats what I do and for far more than what your restaurant is paying.  I will correct that, if I had that yardidge I would only work one day a month.  Each to their own and from what I can see you have a very successful business, but damn do you have to clean a lot of carpet for it.

Best, Dave.

P.S.  How many people were needed to clean the restaurant.  I know it has aleady been asked but I dont think you have replied.....





Simon Gerrard

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2008, 12:59:36 pm »
Dave,
Clearly we come to this particular conversation from two completely different perspectives, you think my clients are ripping me of for only paying me £400+ per hour whereas I think you're ripping your clients off by charging £400 for just one man. But Dave if you can get that sort of money then hats off to you my friend.
Nice sharing views with you, no hard feelings I hope?

Simon

M.Acorn

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2008, 01:13:39 pm »
£2.75 per sq m
I was pricing up the jobs on this rate then would do a discount on the total didn`t get any of the jobs i discounted ! since i have stopped doing a discount i have got the last 4 com jobs i have priced ! booked 1 today small nursery want it doing twice a year £300 a time.with the com jobs it comes out of their tax so in effect they are not paying for it !
What goes around comes around

ZampaWall

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #38 on: April 03, 2008, 01:46:51 pm »
with the com jobs it comes out of their tax so in effect they are not paying for it !

Some people are so disillusioned with this, nothing comes out of thier tax. It comes out of the companies profits. It will reduce thier tax liability by a small amount 20 - 40 %,  but will reduce thier profits by 80 - 60 % (on the cost of the job) and if a PLC then even more profits lost

liahona

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #39 on: April 03, 2008, 02:40:47 pm »
Simon, likewise and of course not, never any hard feelings.

Best, Dave.

rich hand

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2008, 02:51:43 pm »
Nobody has mentioned the 2 main methods involved in commercial ie. rotary vs HWE. Great deal of difference in terms of time and therefore cost. Whichever method used obviously depends on the situation.

I would have thought the typical is 1.50 - 3.00/m for HWE and upto 1.50/m for rotary.


richie

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #41 on: April 03, 2008, 03:36:41 pm »
I have just spent the last hour looking VERY closley at all the replies to this subject.   I have to agree with Simon (WOW that does not happen very often) ;D.  Commercial carpet cleaning can be very competitive in the form of pricing.  The VAST majority of the Carpet Cleaning that i have ever done has been commercial work so i have great knowledge when it comes to pricing this type of work as to has Simon.  Even if wanding with a TM you can earn VERY GOOD money by going in at prices such as £1.25sqm.  Most commercial premises and the person that deals with getting quotes will have over the years used many CC companies and will be clued up on the pricing & method used.  As already noted.....i9f you go in with a price of £5.00sqm you will have no chance of getting the job therefore you have lost any chance of earning good money even if you had gone in at a quter of the £5.00 you quoted.  Someone with a TM can easily wand carpets at rate of upto 200sqm per hour so if you are charging £1.25sqm i think that £250 per hour is good money.  Lets face it,  you need to clean carpets and make enough money to cover your costs plus profit so even £100 per hour can make you good profit on a large job.

Richie.

mark_roberts

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #42 on: April 03, 2008, 05:58:45 pm »
Theres no way i could wand 200sqm an hour.  The quality of clean would suffer and Id be dead at the end of it.

Lets not forget the other factors in Simons work.  He has a TM and equipment probably in the region of £40k + and has staff and probably does this type of work after hours.

Mark

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #43 on: April 03, 2008, 07:34:22 pm »
I don't do much commercial work because I don't pitch for it but the ones I do year in year out are from 25p per sq ft, okay not really big ones but the biggest yields me £1800 and that is the 25p per sq ft account the rest are around the 30-35p.

Shaun

Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #44 on: April 03, 2008, 09:20:02 pm »
Yet another thread that has reached a general consensus.  ::)

Simon makes loads of money, Dave makes loads of money Shaun is thinking about buying Tenerife. And they all do it in very different ways.

richie

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #45 on: April 03, 2008, 10:01:10 pm »
Mark,

Some of the jobs that i have done in the past have been very light soil and have managed UPTO 200sqm.  I certainly couldnt do that now as age is catching up (36).  Realistically 100 - 150 sqm can be done with a wand.  This would be done without the compromise of quality.  I used to clean nightclubs 5 days a week with a wand (before the glide days).  Once you are used to it then it gets easier, although most clubs were in the region of 1000sqm - 1500sqm  and had to be done in 1 day (2 men, 1 wand, 1 TM).  We were knackered at the end of each day.

Richie.

Shaun_Ashmore

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #46 on: April 03, 2008, 10:08:09 pm »
Richie you have either

1. had a bad paper round
2. can't count
3. good accountant

aged 36 my l'derriere

Shaun

gwrightson

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #47 on: April 04, 2008, 03:54:46 pm »
Commercial job priced today,
the company in question has had 3 quotes.

What I do know is that one quote is for £400  :oand the manager has turned it down because it is to cheap. " He did tell me the name of of c/c also "  but i wont divulge.

My price was for £1200 , three times as much . Not certain I have the job yet but i am confident  :D


Geoff
who ever said dont knock before u try ,i never tried dog crap but i know i wouldnt like  haha

richie

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Re: commercial pricing
« Reply #48 on: April 04, 2008, 11:34:06 pm »
I am not saying dot to charge a good price because i have on many occassions priced a job and got it even though i may have doubled the price compared to other CCs.  Some CCs charge silly prices though (65psqm).

Richie.