[Central]

Im looking for a water fed pole system, either trolley or possibly van type.  Interested in the ones that have either 1 or 2 poles coming off, could you please message me and lket me know how much your looking for if you have one for sale.

Cheers

[bengiles]

hia mate, My name is Ben Giles of Ultima Cleaning ltd, i see you are looking for a pole system, if you are interested i can supply a tank, de-ionizer, 3 bags of resin, 8foot, 18foot, 30foot, 40 foot poles, 60 psi pump, tds monitor, and fittings for between £1000 + vat and £1500 + vat

cal me on 07970 918641 or in the office on 01239 621821

[hynlo]

hi mate
why try and make your own i did and ended up making two others aswell  <a href="http://" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://</a>

[pdhanson]

Here are a few reputable suppliers I know of:

http://www.window-tools.com
This is Peter Fogwill's site, he's very helpful.  I doubt you'd find a better trolley system than the one here, as it includes an RO unit.  Also the trailer system looks good.

http://www.ionicsystems.co.uk/
Ionic, formerly OTT is a large, well established company.  Good quality kit, but rather expensive.

http://www.pure2o.co.uk
Pure20, a small company owned by Ionic.  They promise to beat any price.  As its backed by Ionic, the kit is probably very good.  However, is this Ionic's attempt to force the smaller companies out of business?  Decide for yourself.

http://www.brodexbms.co.uk
Brodex.  Run by a lively character who is apparently a dominatrix in his spare time.  Be sure to ask after his best friend Reuban Reynolds of Ionic. Kit looks good, though the website does not show prices.

http://www.gapswater.co.uk
A water treatment company that has branched out to supply window cleaning stuff as well.  Quite good, though a little pricey and no full systems.

http://www.cleantech.co.uk
Cleantech offer a trolley system similar to Peter Fogwills, but notice it has no RO unit.  This will make the resin wear out quickly.

Hope this helps

Silly

[Squeaky_Clean]

Nice one Silly
I think all these makers of pure waterfed pole systems are now getting a bit worried, they have all made  money thats now starting to dry up as more and more window cleaners realize that you can build you own.  Just made mine to fit escort van very smart job if I dont say so myself.

[denzle]

Squeaky,
Got any pictures of your handy work ?
Denzle

[STEVE71163]

Hi Squeaky,
               What size tank did you get in your Escort van

Steve

[shinebright]

Hynlo/ Squeaky and other self builders, can you advise me on the following:

Where is the best place to by the RO kit?

Where do you buy your pumps?

I have sourced the rest of my requirements.

Adrian.

[shinnyshinner]

Hi sunbright
I'd have a go at contacting Peter f at                    www.window-tools.com
Nice chap easy to talk to and wont give you any dud advise to get a sale (straight talking).
Alan

[Squeaky_Clean]

I put in just under a 300Lt tank, its about 2' by 2' by 4.5' , just fits in behind steel divider thats behind the seats.  Got the poles from Ott bit pricey but nice poles.
I'll let you know about pics as soon as I can sort that out.  I think there must be a market for a DIY kit everything you need inc installation instructions in one pack, it would just save all the time and effort  to source it all.  let me know if you would be interested.
I bet I'll get it in the neck   from all the pole system manufacturer's now.

[Squeaky_Clean]

Sorry shinebright forgot to answer your questions

R/O
http://www.gapswater.co.uk/

Pump
http://www.williamsonpumps.co.uk/
they say thats a special one for the job
although you can get a similar one from
http://www.northerntools.co.uk/
can't see it on their website though.
hope thats some help.

Squeaky Paul

[shinebright]

I have spoken to Peter and June regarding their systems and components.

Peters RO kit is substantially cheaper than Junes, I would be interested to know why Squeaky bought the more expensive system.

Both are very helpful and give straightforward advice. Peter has the knowledge of the application of the system where June convinced me on the principle of the method with her knowledge aquired in the water treatment industry.

I would rather pay £450 than £600, so I am likely to buy off Peter. I just wondered if there were any cheaper systems and also is Peters system up to the task bearing in mind how much OTT etc charge.

Which pump did you purchase from Williamsons? There are hundreds of 12v pumps on their price list.

I am looking at 1000 litre system, producing the water at home and carrying to site so that I don't have to trouble the customer for a water supply. I have just bought a Renault Trafic for this purpose and want to get my system up and running as soon as possible.

[Peter Fogwill]

I think there must be a market for a DIY kit everything you need inc installation instructions in one pack, it would just save all the time and effort  to source it all.  let me know if you would be interested.
I bet I'll get it in the neck   from all the pole system manufacturer's now.

I do a DIY kit with everything you need, see, www.window-tools.com

People making up their own systems may or may not save money buying the parts straight from the manufacturers, of the individual equipment.  I know sometimes you have trouble buying single things; they want you to buy quite a bit at a time.  The other thing is if they do they will charge you quite a bit more for a one off.

The other problem is the time it takes to get all the parts working with one another; I spent a lot of time, and wasted a lot of money trying out things that just didn't work.

I dont think pole manufacturers will be too bothered about you making systems up yourself, if you have time to spare and not bad at DIY then you can save some money, but all the parts have to be bought from somewhere.  I personally don't have any problem quoting for individual items, and recommending what is best to use with what parts, and advising how to adapt parts to make them fit with other parts.

If you would like a quote on anything, or just want some advice, give me a call or email, details can be found at the site address below.

Peter Fogwill
www.window-tools.com

[stevekennedy]

Hi Shinebright,

Hope you manage to get your system up and running soon. I notice you've bought a traffic. They are excellent vans. However, have you checked the payload. I wanted a 1000 litre system in a traffic as well but I had to get a Master 3.5 tonner as 600-700 litres is the maximum payload for a traffic, even the long-wheelbase version. Shame, as the traffic is a much nicer looking and driving van  

SteveK

[shinebright]

Steve,

My Trafic is suitable for the task.

1 litre of water weighs 1kg. 1000l is 1 tonne.

Trafic will carry 1.5 tonne.

Master will carry 2.5 tonne.

Who told you the capacity is 600/700?

Escort vans could handle a 500/600 litre tank.

Thanks for the warning, it is a serious issue.

[licencedtoclean]

thermopure reach and wash system available  -  truck mounted in Renault Master Van LWB High Roof.  1000 Litre Thermo-Pure System  -  4 Ports - 2 hot - 2 cold.  Top 45ft Ultra Lite Carbon Fibre Pole, 20ft Carbon Fibre Pole, 12ft Waterfed Pole.  Van and System only 3 months old, 800 miles on clock to date (15/1/04) geniune reason for sale.
For more information contact Rab at Licenced to Clean
01856771570 or e mail rab007ltc@hotmail.com

[stevekennedy]

Hi Shinebright,

Got my facts from Ionic/OTT. They refused to fit their 1000 litre thermopure system in the trafic.

Looked up the spec on the vans in the Renault manuals from the dealer. It says the trafic payload is 1200kg. I suppose if you're only carrying a tank and one or two light poles you would be fine.

The Master payload is 1700 Kg's for the Medium size. Maybe Ionic's system is heavier. 1000kg's for the water alone then add tank, pumps, fixings, poles,racks, 100m hoses (part full of water), heater unit etc. Plus any regular window cleaning gear, access ladders etc. It could add up I suppose.

The next size down in reach and wash is 650 litres. like you, I didn't want to trouble the customers for water so i wanted the 1000 litre tank. I've noticed a few companies that sell custom tanks though. 900 litres, 800 litres etc. Maybe you could build your own system.

Might save quite a bit of cash as well  

SteveK

[sham33]

Hi. Which companys are selling the custom tanks? I'm thinking of building a system soon to fit a smaller van.

[stevekennedy]

Try www.streamsupplies.co.uk. Also www.cleantech.co.uk claim to supply custom tanks.

www.andwat.co.uk sell the 650 and 1000 litre tanks.

Hope this helps.

SteveK

[sham33]

Oh yeah, nice one   I like the look of the 640 litre IBC tank from andwat. Might order that within the week, slowly start getting this off the ground.

Im a bit of a n00b at WFP cleaning. What are
Internal baffles  

Thanks.