A bit of help required please

« **on:** October 15, 2005, 06:25:38 pm »

I've just purchased a battery charger and started charging the battery for my trolley system.

Unfortunately; upon reading the instructions it says I shouldn't use it to charge any battery less than 20 Ah.

I've just had a look at my battery and it's 17 Ah - so obviously smaller - but only 3 Ah's out (what-ever an Ah is).

Am I doing something dangerous?

« **Reply #1 on:** October 15, 2005, 07:09:32 pm »

17 Ah means 17 Amps per hour i think

the danger of using a bigger charger than the battery is, it might overcharge and catch fire

at least thats what i remmber from a guy who installs Leisure batteries in caravans etc

« **Reply #2 on:** October 15, 2005, 07:17:28 pm »

Quote from: matt on October 15, 2005, 07:09:32 pm

the danger of using a bigger charger than the battery is, it might overcharge and catch fire

Cheers, mate. I'll not go to bed with it left on then. I'm a 'bodger' as you probably know by now.

'Ah, that'll do!' is almost my catch-phrase.

« **Reply #3 on:** October 15, 2005, 08:26:25 pm »

Quote from: matt on October 15, 2005, 07:09:32 pm

17 Ah means 17 Amps per hour i think

the danger of using a bigger charger than the battery is, it might overcharge and catch fire

Though most usually have an automatic cut out system/safety device. Though I would probably not leave it on over night or when your out. For the record.....I asked hubby! He confirmed what I thought.

Lizzy

« **Reply #4 on:** October 15, 2005, 08:36:34 pm »

TOSH ITS GOT A FUSE INIT AINT IT?PUT IT OUT SIDE AND RUN A LEAD TO IT SO IF IT DOES BLOW AND CHRIST IT GOES WITH A BANG,YOU WILL WAKE UP THOSE NEIGHBOURS WHO ANNOY YOU FOR A FEW HUNDRED YRDS, BUT COVER IT UP INCASE IT RAINS AND BLOWS ANYWAY.

but remember its full of acid

not much use Iknow but Ive charged up outside before with a plaSTIC BOX OVER IT

GAZA

« **Reply #5 on:** October 15, 2005, 08:40:46 pm »

hi tosh i have some inteligent battery charges they are 19.00 each we use them on our 18 amp batteries if interested e mail purewatersales@tiscali.co.uk

« **Reply #6 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:08:45 pm »

Cheers, Sair,

Too late though. I bought one from Argos this morning! Wrong type, but I aim to get my money's worth unless my house burns down first.

« **Reply #7 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:14:31 pm »

Argos have a 14 day money back policy I think. Return it with no reason other than it was unsuitable.

Lizzy

« **Reply #8 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:20:44 pm »

Quote from: busydaffodil on October 15, 2005, 09:14:31 pm

Argos have a 14 day money back policy I think. Return it with no reason other than it was unsuitable.

Lizzy

It seems to be working fine! I've put it on trickle charge, and tommorow when I erect the new shed, I'll run a cable through the cat flap and charge it in there.

There's only a 3 Ah difference!

« **Reply #9 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:26:33 pm »

Did you get the shed from Argos as well?

« **Reply #10 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:27:37 pm »

Hi Tosh,

Was just thinking - not possible I know !!!!

I'm not doing anything special now for the rest of the night so if anything happens to the battery charger just email me and Will & I will speed up the M4 and A48 and put your fire out with our wfp !!

Be a good chance to meet up eh !!!!

Regards to Helen from Pontypool - but she can't help it (think your on rations now Tosh ),

regards

Sarah

« **Reply #11 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:28:52 pm »

And hubby and I could come clean up when the fires out & cook a little breakfast!

SORTED!

« **Reply #12 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:34:55 pm »

Tosh

You are running a risk of overcharging your battery with devastating results.
Unless you use an intelligent charger or get one that charges to a max of 17 amp hrs.

A friend of mine has no recognisable face now because of exactly this situation. He "got away" with it for a while then he happened to be there when it finally blew. This one certainly isn't worth the risk for the sake of a few quid.

Amp Hrs.. a simple explanation:

Most batteries are rated in amp-hours (Ah). An amp-hour is a rate of one amp of electricity for one hour. A 100Ah battery will in theory give 1 amp for 100 hours or 100 amps for 1 hour or some other value pro rata. EG 5 amps for 20 hrs.

Hope this helps

Andrew

« **Reply #13 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:42:07 pm »

Tosh

as its from argos

stick it back in the box, and pop it back tomorrow, anyother excuse for shopping with wor lass

take it to the 1 in the MALL at cribs causeway (just down the raod from you) and you can buy me a beer

« **Reply #14 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:43:00 pm »

sarill:sensertive ears about,putting fires out with water fed poles
Im the fastest wfp fire putterouter

gaza

« **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:48:47 pm »

Aaaww, Andrew. Not fair. I've disconected it! Wor Lass read you post and made me.

I'll try charging it again tomorrow in the shed - once I've put it up!

It's only "3 Ah's" difference. Aaawwww; it's not fair.

Thanks for your advice.

Regards,

Tosh

« **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:49:49 pm »

Quote from: gaza on October 15, 2005, 09:43:00 pm

sarill:sensertive ears about,putting fires out with water fed poles
Im the fastest wfp fire putterouter

gaza

LOL Gaza

Good to see you can look at the funny side of it now. As before.. if I can help gimme a shout.

Andrew

« **Reply #17 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:51:10 pm »

having read Andrews post, I agree with Wor Lass! Take it back & buy one suited to your requirements. Not worth the risk really is it?

« **Reply #18 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:52:10 pm »

Quote from: Tosh on October 15, 2005, 09:48:47 pm

Aaaww, Andrew. Not fair. I've disconected it! Wor Lass read you post and made me.

It's only "3 Ah's" difference. Aaawwww; it's not fair.

Regards,

Tosh

Bugg**r soz Tosh mate. One up for the "other side" and it's my fault

Will I ever live this one down?

Andrew

« **Reply #19 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:54:28 pm »

Tosh

manufacturers always err on the side of caution of about 20 % .it should be ok but dont go to be unattended ;

« **Reply #20 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:55:13 pm »

Matt,

Are you from the Chepstow area too ?

Gaza,

Im not after your title - honestly !!! Its just I'd get there before you

Sarah

« **Reply #21 on:** October 15, 2005, 09:56:59 pm »

Hey Tosh

Know Bamburgh?

I spent most of my childhood there. When I moved down here at 15 they thought I spoke some foreign language!!

Andrew

« **Reply #22 on:** October 15, 2005, 10:11:41 pm »

Quote from: Andrew McCann on October 15, 2005, 09:56:59 pm

Know Bamburgh?

I spent most of my childhood there. When I moved down here at 15 they thought I spoke some foreign language!!

Andrew

Very well. I think Bamburgh Castle is my favourite all time castle. Then you've got Lindisfarne, alternatively called Holy Island or, more properly named; the Holy Island of Lindisfarne.

I used to take girlfriends there, just to pretend I was romantic. It was all a farce though. I love the rugged North East coast. Vikings, robbing, wars, murder, beer etc.

Brilliant place.

« **Reply #23 on:** October 15, 2005, 10:30:14 pm »

Quote from: Sarah Sarill on October 15, 2005, 09:55:13 pm

Matt,

Are you from the Chepstow area too ?

no from near cardiff, now living near Bath

« **Reply #24 on:** October 15, 2005, 10:37:47 pm »

Quote from: matt on October 15, 2005, 10:30:14 pm

Quote from: Sarah Sarill on October 15, 2005, 09:55:13 pm
Matt,

Are you from the Chepstow area too ?

no from near cardiff, now living near Bath

Sarah/Matt, you're both probably extremely closely related! The Welsh have a genetically similar gene pool.

It stems from too much in-breeding which is why Wor Lass has a 'pointy head'.

'If she's not good enough for her father; she's not good enough for my son', is the local line.

« **Reply #25 on:** October 15, 2005, 10:39:30 pm »

oh dear.............RUN TO THE HILLS ......QUICK!!!!

« **Reply #26 on:** October 15, 2005, 10:40:30 pm »

Tosh, is Wor Lass from Varteg, Garndiffaith, Trevethin area then?

« **Reply #27 on:** October 16, 2005, 01:30:07 am »

An even simpler solution would be......put your battery charger away and get your ladder out mate.......so who said WFP was a much safer method of window cleaning ?.........what lies beneath etc....

« **Reply #28 on:** October 16, 2005, 01:31:35 am »

TOSH:please refrain from driftring of the subject this is a w/c forum not a history forum neither a gene pool forum,and anymore use of bad words and you will be stuck off,the offending word was welch

RE BATTERY MY DAD USE TO SAY IF IN DOUBT WHIP IT OUT,BUT I DONT THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT BATTERY CHARGING

GAZA [NOW YOU KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE ON THE RECIEVING END.

GAZA

« **Reply #29 on:** October 16, 2005, 08:48:45 am »

Sorry Gaza,

You're right, mate.

Thanks for the information. I'll use the battery charger, but keep it outside.

Thread locked.

Too off topic.