[Marcus McDonnell]

Buying a new machine but trying to keep cost down is the inline heater a must or can u get away without it

[Russ Chadd]

Well... the simple answer is no, however this really depends on the chemicals you use for pre spraying.
If you choose a chemical which does not rely on hot water to increase its cleaning efficiency something like SPM from Solution, Cornwall will work just fine.
Saying that, if you are cleaning lots of filthy greasy restaurant carpets then hot water will help when rinsing.

[gwrightson]

well.the simple answer is yes,  No matter what bulls**t they tell you ,heat will improve the procces .

.......  there are how ever a number of products available that claim do not need heat , available form a number of differnt suppliers . 

Geoff

[Elfyn]

I have an inline heater and haven't used it years.  :
I do a lot of "end of tenancy work" and I get very good results without heat.

[gwrightson]

Try some proper heat Elfin , and you might get some excellent results

Heat will always give you the advantage , no question about it , I am not saying you cannot clean with out heat, the point i am trying to make is heat is an advantage  what is the point in manufactures making machines with heat? what is the point in making inline heaters ?   and why am i wasting money turning my burner on ?

Geoff

[cleantech]

Wet cleaning of carpet is classed as HOT WATER EXTRACTION i cleaned a restaurant carpet recently and without heat i had no chance of removing the soil. you will get away without heat most of the time but with heat you will get better results every time

[Richard Meads]

Three parts to cleaning, Heat, Agitation, and Chemicals, of you use less of one, you need more of the other. So microsplitters work on the principle that the chemical is good enough not to need heat.  I sometimes use microsplitters, but for resuraunts I use a hot enzyme, and the machine heater (portable), boosted with Magma heater.

Most portys have some sort of heater, you can fill the tank first, let it heat up while you move furniture, prespray agitate, let it dwell etc. Then upgrade over time.
 

[Elfyn]

Geoff, you are wasting your money when you turn on your burner without a doubt.

[Kinver_Clean]

The heater on my machine has not worked for years.
I only use microsplitters and rinse with cold water.
But then I do not do restaurants nowadays. Tap hot water will help with rinsing greasy carpets but is not essential--- as long as you use free rinsing micro splitting presprays. It is at that stage the breakdown of dirt is done. The rinse then removes the emulsified crud.

If you are using intank detergents like we used to, then a bit of heat helps.
Most people have moved on from that.

[gwrightson]

 


now i can save myself £15 per week  , thanks Elfin

Geoff

[gwrightson]

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The heater on my machine has not worked for years. I only use microsplitters and rinse with cold water. But then I do not do restaurants nowadays. Tap hot water will help with rinsing greasy carpets but is not essential--- as long as you use free rinsing micro splitting presprays. It is at that stage the breakdown of dirt is done. The rinse then removes the emulsified crud. If you are using intank detergents like we used to, then a bit of heat helps. Most people have moved on from that. I,ve heard it all now   tap hot water on greasy carpets , exactly how hot is it when it hits the carpet , by the time its been sat in ur rugdoctor  ermm porty, and got to the wand !!! geoff

[cleantech]

Three parts to cleaning, Heat, Agitation, and Chemicals, of you use less of one, you need more of the other. So microsplitters work on the principle that the chemical is good enough not to need heat.  I sometimes use microsplitters, but for resuraunts I use a hot enzyme, and the machine heater (portable), boosted with Magma heater.

Most portys have some sort of heater, you can fill the tank first, let it heat up while you move furniture, prespray agitate, let it dwell etc. Then upgrade over time.
 

Sorry richard there are 4 parts in the cleaning pie heat agitation chemical and time dwell time as you said yourself

[Simon Gerrard]

Just get a Truck Mount and stop elfyn around  
Sorry, couldn't resis that one.

[cleantech]

The heater on my machine has not worked for years.
I only use microsplitters and rinse with cold water.
But then I do not do restaurants nowadays. Tap hot water will help with rinsing greasy carpets but is not essential--- as long as you use free rinsing micro splitting presprays. It is at that stage the breakdown of dirt is done. The rinse then removes the emulsified crud.

If you are using intank detergents like we used to, then a bit of heat helps.
Most people have moved on from that.

How are prochem and chemspec managing these days

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

There are so many scientific reasons why hot water cleans better, most of which have been listed in previous posts.

Yes a heater is a major advantage, essential in some cases.

Cheers

Doug

[Richard Meads]

Ooops yeah Cleantech you are right!

I'll have to dig out my training manual and do a bit of re-reading 

Richard

[Marcus McDonnell]

Thanks for all your comments has been really helpful.

[garybristow]

If your doing mainly residential you can get away with it,you will be filling your machine with hot water generally speaking
its all in the presray and spotting,the machine only lifts out the soiling you dissolve?
gary

[Jamie Pearson]

The heater on my machine has not worked for years.
I only use microsplitters and rinse with cold water.
But then I do not do restaurants nowadays. Tap hot water will help with rinsing greasy carpets but is not essential--- as long as you use free rinsing micro splitting presprays. It is at that stage the breakdown of dirt is done. The rinse then removes the emulsified crud.

If you are using intank detergents like we used to, then a bit of heat helps.
Most people have moved on from that.

How are prochem and chemspec managing these days

Outselling micro splitter 10:1 in my shop.

[Bob Allen]

Heat, heat and more heat