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DaveG

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Vivaro or Transit?
« on: October 11, 2011, 06:04:47 pm »
Looking at new vans at the mo and Ive whittled it down to these 2... Heard a few horror stories about Vivaros (especially early ones) and  the Transit have legendary reliabilty but the rust seems to get them quicker than other vans!

Looking at spending around 4 to 5 grand. Whats your thoughts guys?

Cheers
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Steven01903

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 06:13:36 pm »
Transit every time
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dave.e

Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2011, 06:16:16 pm »
 i have a 2.0cdti 115 bhp swb 57 plate vivaro and have had it for the last 18 months with no problems at all and its done 65000 miles just like driving a car if not better.
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Steve_c

Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2011, 06:25:02 pm »
Transit.
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Smudger

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2011, 06:25:35 pm »
Vivaro - get a nice ex BT or AA for that money 06 or 07 reg.

tranny''s are wider as well by about a foot.


have you seen my new van on Matts forum ?

Darran
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steve rix

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2011, 06:25:52 pm »
Transporter
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spudd

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2011, 06:27:19 pm »
Heard alot of bad story's about the transit lately,

then again you hear a fair bit about vivaros... What sealed the deal for me is the fact all the AA vans nowadays are vicars so they can't be that bad...

Pretty sure they've sorted out most the old problems with the vivaros

Picked my 07 vivaro up last month.. Lovely to drive, and under 5k so nicely in your price range  ;)

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Ian101

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2011, 06:27:22 pm »
Ive got 2 mates that own a workshop and they best sum it up as you only ever see a Transit when it needs a service but the vivaro's are always in getting summit done.

like u say early ones prone to water in gearboxes and transits rust quicker but vivaros drive nicer.

mines a transit 260 swb
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Steve CM

Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2011, 06:31:09 pm »
had a transit on a 52 plate, was reliable but they rot!

got two vivaros one on a 05 plate one on a 08.

when i first bought the 05 plate nearly 4 years ago the head went on it so i wondered what i'd let myself in for. but touch wood both have been ultra reliable since then. the 08 plate is as good as gold
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mark m

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 06:43:23 pm »
I  have had 2 transits once were the only van at the time  to get but times have changed and i now have a vivaro 57 plate it is like driving a car as long as you don`t` buy 04 or before  you will be fine . ;D ;D
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R W C™

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 06:52:33 pm »
Quote from: spikey on October 11, 2011, 06:27:19 pm
Heard alot of bad story's about the transit lately,

then again you hear a fair bit about vivaros... What sealed the deal for me is the fact all the AA vans nowadays are vicars so they can't be that bad...

Pretty sure they've sorted out most the old problems with the vivaros

Picked my 07 vivaro up last month.. Lovely to drive, and under 5k so nicely in your price range  ;)


Where can I get a vicar one lol.



I like the vivaro too that's why I too bought another one...

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rosskesava

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 08:02:08 pm »
Transit.

I've done 110 000 miles from new. All it's had done is the cam belt, a pulley that tensions the fan belt, the exhaust plus of course the usual, brakes, etc.
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Ian Rochester

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 08:21:00 pm »
VIVARO!!!!  Just because I have one and like it.  ;D
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Frankybadboy

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 08:35:52 pm »
the new transits dont have a good review,but as with all vans you buy you take your chance.

bother in law worked as a manger for fords for 20years now runs his own garage doing fords,and his advice to me was dont touch the new trannys,get a older one if you can.and he knows his stuff
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Lee GLS

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 08:53:44 pm »
The newer tdci engines suffer from injector and diesel pump problems, the older tddi engines are reliable,
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Blue City Cleaning

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2011, 09:11:11 pm »
Transit
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2011, 09:15:20 pm »
Thanks for the replies guys its much appreciated. When you say "new Transit" do you mean this type?
 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-FORD-TRANSIT-85-T260S-FWD-1-OWNER-FSH-NO-VAT-/320759227795?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item4aaebd6593

Also quite like this Vivaro ..

http://vans.autotrader.co.uk/makemodel/make/vauxhall/stock-item-id/at8a6bb95932007bd8013250c5af65018d/advert   although maybe a bit pricey?
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2011, 09:16:39 pm »
Quote from: Smudger on October 11, 2011, 06:25:35 pm
Vivaro - get a nice ex BT or AA for that money 06 or 07 reg.

tranny''s are wider as well by about a foot.


have you seen my new van on Matts forum ?

Darran

Yeah saw that Darran, looks nice. I was also considering one of the LDV Maxus crew vans  :)
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2011, 09:17:28 pm »
Quote from: steve rix on October 11, 2011, 06:25:52 pm
Transporter


Dont fancy paying loads of money for a high miler tho!
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poleman

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2011, 09:17:34 pm »
lambretta  ;D
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2011, 09:19:11 pm »
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2011, 09:22:05 pm »
Quote from: spikey on October 11, 2011, 06:27:19 pm
Heard alot of bad story's about the transit lately,

then again you hear a fair bit about vivaros... What sealed the deal for me is the fact all the AA vans nowadays are vicars so they can't be that bad...

Pretty sure they've sorted out most the old problems with the vivaros

Picked my 07 vivaro up last month.. Lovely to drive, and under 5k so nicely in your price range  ;)



Sounds a good price for an 07 spikey, what mileage has it done?
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rosskesava

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2011, 11:08:37 pm »
Quote from: bob hope no hope on October 11, 2011, 08:35:52 pm
the new transits dont have a good review,but as with all vans you buy you take your chance.

bother in law worked as a manger for fords for 20years now runs his own garage doing fords,and his advice to me was dont touch the new trannys,get a older one if you can.and he knows his stuff

That the third time I've heard that said this year. Mines an 05 plate. I've been looking into leasing a replacement instead of buying as leasing is about £250 a month for a 3 year contract with the manufacturers 3 years warranty but downtime is loss of earnings.

Maybe it's an idea to check out Vivaro's as that was the only other van that seems ok.
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spudd

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2011, 08:16:38 am »
Quote from: H2ose™ on October 11, 2011, 09:22:05 pm
Quote from: spikey on October 11, 2011, 06:27:19 pm
Heard alot of bad story's about the transit lately,

then again you hear a fair bit about vivaros... What sealed the deal for me is the fact all the AA vans nowadays are vicars so they can't be that bad...

Pretty sure they've sorted out most the old problems with the vivaros

Picked my 07 vivaro up last month.. Lovely to drive, and under 5k so nicely in your
price range  ;)

Sounds a good price for an 07 spikey, what mileage has it done?

85,000 with full service history  :) test drove a few before a bought this one!

Good friend of mine use to be head mechanic and vauxhall so knows these vans inside out.. he said the 2.0 cdti version which are pre 06(I think?) are the ones to go for, ether engines cause they've got cam chains not belts...!
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dave f

Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2011, 12:41:46 pm »
gp 200 or sx 200 ive got a nice ts1
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2011, 05:47:56 pm »
Quote from: dave f on October 12, 2011, 12:41:46 pm
gp 200 or sx 200 ive got a nice ts1

Like I said ..I want reliable!  ;D


This looks quite a good buy. Tailgate rear door too

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renault-traffic-1-9CDTI-Van-2-7t-2000cc-/200637984055?pt=UK_Commercial_Trucks&hash=item2eb6f4ad37
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Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2011, 05:53:59 pm »
vivaro 2.0 cdti its the dogs
and another thing boys
IV got the BEST SCOOTER ON ERE
Li 150 !!!!!
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2011, 06:55:36 pm »
Quote from: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 12, 2011, 05:53:59 pm
vivaro 2.0 cdti its the dogs
and another thing boys
IV got the BEST SCOOTER ON ERE
Li 150 !!!!!

Cheers Gav...I think youve also got the slowest  ;) ;D ;D
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tompoole

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2011, 07:33:19 pm »
Wouldn't touch the transit at mo , some big issues with
Clutches lasting 20k miles when worked hard also gearboxes
Doing the same, although I have heard they now have updated
Boxes also 07 plate engines had a habit of starving itself
Of oil ! Not good. Great when they work but think leasing it
Would be the way to go at moment.
They dropped the tdci and box into Landrover defenders
And the have been a nightmare on occasion .
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sf

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2011, 08:14:54 pm »
trani everytime  ;D
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Gav Camm lammy 283

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2011, 10:38:21 pm »
Quote from: H2ose™ on October 12, 2011, 06:55:36 pm
Quote from: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 12, 2011, 05:53:59 pm
vivaro 2.0 cdti its the dogs
and another thing boys
IV got the BEST SCOOTER ON ERE
Li 150 !!!!!

Cheers Gav...I think youve also got the slowest  ;) ;D ;D


175cc top end lammys not built 4 speed
built for coolness ;D ;D
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davids3511

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2011, 11:08:48 pm »
Quote from: H2ose™ on October 11, 2011, 09:16:39 pm
Quote from: Smudger on October 11, 2011, 06:25:35 pm
Vivaro - get a nice ex BT or AA for that money 06 or 07 reg.

tranny''s are wider as well by about a foot.


have you seen my new van on Matts forum ?

Darran

Yeah saw that Darran, looks nice. I was also considering one of the LDV Maxus crew vans  :)
The Maxus is nearly impossible to get spares for. I was considering one until recently. There also seems to be alot of them on ebay with blown engines.
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supernova77

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2011, 11:30:46 pm »
H2ose,

Will you be selling your H100 with all the equipment in it?

Andy
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Smudger

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2011, 07:59:21 am »
that was the case as the company got wound up and suppliers were waiting for the receiver

but i understand that parts are available now.  engine is made by vm as regarded in the trade as bulletproof
so hopefully that will be the case for me

Darran
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DaveG

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Re: Vivaro or Transit?
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2011, 08:02:03 am »
Quote from: *Andy on October 12, 2011, 11:30:46 pm
H2ose,

Will you be selling your H100 with all the equipment in it?

Andy


Possibly Andy, but more than likely I'll transfer all the gear to new van
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