[geefree]

Surely you wont use fan jets .. and you must rinse off glass to begin with....

do things the safe right way to begin with , then you will speed up and choose your best method when you gain the confidence with wfp

play safe.

one tip.... fan jets dont push left over residue down the glass like a pencil jet does.

and it DOES spray into vents , simply put, you cannot guide a fan jet in the same way.

 

[dazmond]

hi danny some will be kept trad(very compact granny flats/old wooden windows/oxidized frames etc)i have a varied round with lots of very compact work and scattered bigger top end residential.

my girlfriends not very well so we ve been making the most of the time she has left. :(been new york last year and went to paris with her the other month.

also ive finished paying all my debts off at the end of december.then we had the bad weather.bought a new laptop/flatscreen tv/other things for my flat.

i cant get credit mate with my track record! :

ill be converting about 80%of my round when i do go wfp.

why did it not suit your round danny?

[dazmond]

why should i rinse off the glass to begin with?and why not fan jets?

peter fogwill has always championed fan jets over needle so what is the problem?i think ill take to wfp like a duck to water!!

ill find out myself one day!!

[geefree]

why should i rinse off the glass to begin with?and why not fan jets?

peter fogwill has always championed fan jets over needle so what is the problem?i think ill take to wfp like a duck to water!!

ill find out myself one day!!

you will if you listen to what advice is being given to you.  ...

when you rinse on the glass, in my opinion , its something that comes after confidence gained...

but its your choice... go ahead , do everything your own way...

sometimes its the only way to learn..

 

[Platinum]

hi danny some will be kept trad(very compact granny flats/old wooden windows/oxidized frames etc)i have a varied round with lots of very compact work and scattered bigger top end residential.

my girlfriends not very well so we ve been making the most of the time she has left. :(been new york last year and went to paris with her the other month.

also ive finished paying all my debts off at the end of december.then we had the bad weather.bought a new laptop/flatscreen tv/other things for my flat.

i cant get credit mate with my track record! :

ill be converting about 80%of my round when i do go wfp.

why did it not suit your round danny?

Sorry Daz i missed your reply last night

I just prefared the ladders because i thought they were quicker and i got sick of running around the van to get the hoses right and then they were snagging on everything they could. Then i wasnt confident with the system which i think showed to the customers. I was just anxious about the results after the clean and on the terraced which i can do fronts pretty wuick off the ladder they didnt like the water spillage which was understandable after the winter because the thought it would freeze. I did put salt down but felt like i was doing and extra job running round with salt.

As for prices i already clean frames on all my houses so i couldnt offer that as an advantage so many just seen it as i was getting lazy and making a mess of the street. I think if i ever went back to WFP it would only be for commercial cleaning with the H&S but im more than happy with the ladders and i have taken a few customers from wfp cleaners who werent happy with the results wfp left...

This is the way i run my business but i think if you have the confidence in what your using it will rub off on the customers.

Good luck mate

[dazmond]

cheers danny.fair enough.i do think there is a learning curve with wfp though.

a lot of experienced guys have nearly given up after the first couple of weeks!ill be gettin a trolley for most of my compact work.i could imagine the van mount doing my head in with havin to be tied to the van all the time.i do have a lot of compact work with pitched roofs and connys so im sure itll stop a hell of a lot of climbing or messing about with my trad pole!

if water is really an issue at times then i would trad the downstairs windows and wfp tops on fussy custys.i think your a lot younger than me danny boy!im 38 now!the ladders and trad work was great when i was younger!but as im hurtling towards my 40 birthday its time to make my job easier and safer.

also your missing out on the bigger awkward houses that you can charge a premium on and up that hourly rate!!

[Murdie window cleaning]

I agree with you on the point of age daz. I turned 40 at the start of the year and I had a couple of new jobs yesterday that had ackward pitched windows and windows above big bay windows and by the time I got those done I was knackered. Mind you it could have been the onset of "Man flu" as I've taken today off as I felt totaly crap when I woke up this morning, but just have to get back at it tomorow.

I'm looking to get myself a wfp set up in the next month or so, I was wary as I've heard of a few custies in my town not liking the result the've had from another cleaner who uses one, but it's like anything if he or his guys aren't using it correctly then they could get some poor results.