[Alun Whyte]

Looking to buy a wfp trolley, initially thought about the Pure Freedom 25L then i stumbled upon a trolley from The Cleaning Warehouse Company has anyone got one of their trolleys if so whats your thoughts or even dealt with that company before.
Any other trolley ideas would be welcome

[Martin ccs]

at the end of the day a trolley system is just a trolley with a pump and battery.

not slagging them off! think they are v handy.

what im saying is that most trollys are nearly the same - so prob best to go with the best build one.

i would say purefreedom or give x line a go.

guys at xline are v helpful

[Alun Whyte]

Thats the problem u cant tell the build quality lookin at pics on the web and i aint travellin 500 miles to find out its crap

[Martin ccs]

Thats the problem u cant tell the build quality lookin at pics on the web and i aint travellin 500 miles to find out its crap

x line trolley is prob best but purefreedom is v close second.

ive had both before and i have a x line trolley now.

[Alun Whyte]

Cheers m8 will give em a call ask a few questions

[michael papworth]

The build quality question is important. But you also need to consider that you need to work with it day after day.

My second question would be how high do you need to lift the 25 litre can to get it onto the trolley.

With the pure freedom, you only have to lift it a small distance.

The x-line looks similar

With the H2 Go trolley, it's rather higher.

The polarbrite trolley is even higher still.

Now of you're 6' plus and beefy, this might not be an issue. But you need to think how you might feel about lifting 25 kg cans of water that high all day every day. I personally think that it might get a little wearing.

And for build quality, you just can't beat the pure freedom trolley.

[Alun Whyte]

I see where ur coming from wally, should only be usin the trolley 4 short periods though for some awkward but lucrative  commercial work i got, have you heard of that other company i was on about? Seems not a bad deal on the face of it plus free delivery

[Mike #1]

purefreedom trolley is the best in my opinion after 2 yrs still going strong built to last and easy to lift in and out of car

[matt]

sack truck and build your own

lets face it, a sack truck is designed to move around weights all day long

remove the barrel and battery and its as light as you can get when lifting

[Mike #1]

sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley

[Alun Whyte]

Yeah good point some of the trolleys look totally naff wouldnt be seen dead wi some of em take it no one heard of that other company then?

[matt]

purefreedom trolley is the best in my opinion after 2 yrs still going strong built to last and easy to lift in and out of car

sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley

yet you use a PF truck

the PF is a sacktruck design trolley with a 25 L container sat on top ( as are all the others )

[matt]

i doublt a customer would tell the difference between a PF trolley or a sack truck with pump box and 25 L barrel

both use the same barrels

both have long handles to pull them along

[michael papworth]

sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley

So there's no doubt about it, is there?

It's got to be either Pure Freedom or X-line.

The others look like a school design project that never quite got finished.

[matt]

sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley

So there's no doubt about it, is there?

It's got to be either Pure Freedom or X-line.

The others look like a school design project that never quite got finished.

the Pure Freedom and X-line ( infact the others do aswell ) both look like a sack truck with a foldable handle ( which the customer will not see as you will be using it ) and a box with the pump and battery in which the 25 L barrel sits on

lets not kid ourselves here

[matt]

something made along time before PF ( and the like ) thought of the idea

http://diy*waterfed*pole.co.uk/sack.JPG

remove the 2 * to see the pic

edit, just to point out, the paint wasnt the finished colour, before someone replies " the metal straps look crap because they are not the same colour "

that was just a coat of red lead paint

[Alun Whyte]

I see your point Matt however do u think there would be much savings to be made by sourcing all the parts and building it yourself given the time etc that would cost.

Any ideas where to get spare 25L barrels?

[michael papworth]

sack trucks look really professional with 25ltr containers strapped to them with bungees if we are professional why on earth would anyone use a sack truck rather than a professional looking purpose built trolley

So there's no doubt about it, is there?

It's got to be either Pure Freedom or X-line.

The others look like a school design project that never quite got finished.

the Pure Freedom and X-line ( infact the others do aswell ) both look like a sack truck with a foldable handle ( which the customer will not see as you will be using it ) and a box with the pump and battery in which the 25 L barrel sits on

lets not kid ourselves here

I cannot possibly agree with that.

I've had LOADS of customers look at my business name (Wally the Window Washer) and look at my trolley (Pure Freedom) and ask me if I'm working a franchise. It's the name plus the quality of the equipment that gives that impression.

I'm sure that a can bungeed onto a sack truck wouldn't create the same impression no matter what the name.

No. People CAN recognise quality.

I quite understand that any trolley will do the same job - and probably with very similar reliability - and for about half the price. I'm seriously considering making a trolley system for myself. But quality of design, materials and construction counts for a lot.

That's why Mercs are a little more expensive than other cars - and why people look up to them.

[matt]

I see your point Matt however do u think there would be much savings to be made by sourcing all the parts and building it yourself given the time etc that would cost.

Any ideas where to get spare 25L barrels?

build it when its raining and your not working ( unless you work in all rain ) then your time isnt going to cost you money

as for 25 L barrels, your local mechanical car washs will have them, they have soap delivered in them, some will be happy for you to take them away for free ( just ask around them ) , give them a rinse and job done

if you want to buy them, cleantech used to sell them for 5 quid a pop

[Craig Trevain]

Wally you put a j.peg of our mark 1 up, so here is a link to our mark2! http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_20_24
 as goes the lifting bit the only person that has ever commented on this is you at windex, others comment on the fact that the container is snug in a cage! but each to their own, and variety is good.