[dazmond]

its heavy though with the 5 sections on!it might come in handy on the odd house.would be better if i could fit a gardiners supalite brush on the end!the unger brush is damn heavy!its ok for conny roofs and cleaning the car with but 30 feet in the air?im not sure about that!

do you think i should get an 18 brodex hydra alloy pole for run of the mill domestic and use the unger for taller work??

[paul rulton]

salford  in the middle of a load of crackheads/smackhead and drunks!!

still there is always worse places to live! : :

baghdad,beihrut(can't spell it!), Helmand  

im the 1 on this forum that cant spell   stop tryin 2nic my bit  

[mci services]

are you saying the ones that slope from left to peak then down to the right if you face the garage. if so almost impossible to do with a pole. you can buy a roof hook that  attached to a single ladder from screwfix. i always missed these ones and charged accordianly. or do i admit to just walking up the roof : well i did for years but not now. they can be really slippy and i wouldnt recommend walking on any sloping roof

Yes Stu thats the buggers !!

ian the only way i could do these safely was ladder to the centre of the peak and trad pole from the ladder so you are working straight on. as dazmond says leave a gap from top of the pane then detail. i always warned the customer that these windows would never be perfect, but i could do a decent job by the time i went wfp

[mci services]

its heavy though with the 5 sections on!it might come in handy on the odd house.would be better if i could fit a gardiners supalite brush on the end!the unger brush is damn heavy!its ok for conny roofs and cleaning the car with but 30 feet in the air?im not sure about that!

do you think i should get an 18 brodex hydra alloy pole for run of the mill domestic and use the unger for taller work??

daz what i did for a long time was just use the three sections and had the pole hose on the outside of the pole and only added the other sections if needed. yes its heavy but for the odd job it does the job

[dazmond]

sound ok to start me off stu.im gettin a trolley (new 50 lt) capacity pure freedom trolley with 14 25 lt containers and brodex hydra alloy pole (18ft).might be better getting the 25 ft one though as its not much dearer.

cant wait to get my van.hoping ill get a half decent one for 3 grand!

[Ste M]

defo get the 25 over the 18 daz, you can reach above conny's easier with the 25

[jonnyald]

ian,  id say buy a WAGTAIL FLIPPER  these are great on a pole. but before you buy it ----- >

 if you look on YOUTUBE  , go into " MyWagga" you will see the master at work. this fellas videos are a goldmine of information on how to do it , his nickname is wagga , a great guy has made over 40 short youtube videos mainly on pole work but also on w.f.p.

 by the way, buy the wagtail angle arm at the same time, its worth every penny

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

I know it doesn't suit the original question but on this type of work I would ivest in a little wfp equipment. I use trad gear on extention poles for above stairwells or apex windows. I would never want to clean a window with a trad pole that someone stands at though, and I've been doing it years.  I use a wagtail on the high internal windows I do.

I would say if you want them done perfect then get a di vessel, wf-pole and bacpack. One backpack of water will be enough for say 5-10 windows on regular cleans. If you really want to save on money and your customers have an outside tap you could even skip the backpack and go tap>di>pole.

I reckon you could be set up for the odd window for £250.

Simon.     

[dazmond]

on regularly cleaned windows you can do a perfectly good job with a trad pole.i use gg3 and it doesnt leave white marks like fairy round the edges if it dries before you detail.harder to see what your doin!but ive cleaned my own windows in bright sunlight with trad pole and theyve been great when i inspected them.

i normally use the ladders on easy first floor windows.pole on dodgy driveways etc.i have used trad pole on ALL upstairs windows during freezing weather but thats an exception.

windows are never perfect when youve cleaned them with the odd faint spots wfp and the odd dragline/scrim mark in very bright sunlight traditionally!

they look perfect when its cloudy though!!!

[G Griffin]

 What if they are leaded?
  I can`t believe that a trad pole can do a better job than wfp. But I`m willing to be proven wrong.

[AuRavelling79]

I know it doesn't suit the original question but on this type of work I would ivest in a little wfp equipment. I use trad gear on extention poles for above stairwells or apex windows. I would never want to clean a window with a trad pole that someone stands at though, and I've been doing it years.  I use a wagtail on the high internal windows I do.

I would say if you want them done perfect then get a di vessel, wf-pole and bacpack. One backpack of water will be enough for say 5-10 windows on regular cleans. If you really want to save on money and your customers have an outside tap you could even skip the backpack and go tap>di>pole.

I reckon you could be set up for the odd window for £250.

Simon.     

Plus One! Obvious when you think about it.

[dazmond]

trad pole no good on leaded.im not saying its better than wfp as obviously you give the frames a thorough clean but you can do an adequate job for the odd dodgy window IF its not leaded!!!

wfp will do a better job and a lot faster probably!but what if its old wooden windows/oxidized frames and its too dodgy for ladders??and its below freezing?THATS when the extension pole comes into its own!!

i am looking forward to wfp then ill have ALL the tools in my locker
    
   LADDERS/EXTENSION POLES/SCRIMS/SQUEEGYS and WATER FED POLE!!!

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

Dasmond the fact that you are using gg3 must mean you live in a soft water area. If your water was hard with a tds of in the 400's I think the results would be very different. I can clean windows with pure water squeegee off and a wagtail and get good results, but our tap water is a cometely different story.

Simon.   

[dazmond]

35 tds round here simon! ;)thats fairly soft i think!


regards

dazmond

[jonnyald]

What if they are leaded?
  I can`t believe that a trad pole can do a better job than wfp. But I`m willing to be proven wrong.

as ever ,Waggas got a video showing his modified tool for doing leaded windows  up high on a pole .  it uses an unger fixi clamp and a car seatbelt protector . ive  not made one up myself,but no doubt it works good .    check his vid out on youtube (MyWaggas channel )

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

35 tds round here simon! ;)thats fairly soft i think!


regards

dazmond

u shud jus think ov di only then daz i might av a cheapish 25ft pole u cud buy
off me

[Gav Camm lammy 283]

right ian r u listening
here goes windows over a roof
how to clean its easy peasy lemon squeegee
PHONE LAMMY lol

[Ian101]

right ian r u listening
here goes windows over a roof
how to clean its easy peasy lemon squeegee
PHONE LAMMY lol

cheers mate ... made me smile after a long hard day 

will give your number to all of my customers 

[paul rulton]

he'll ave all ya custys off ya...... & while hes at it he will take ur company name 
all in the blink of an eye  aint that rite lammy 

[stay white n bright window cleaning service]

A quick tip,if you have the flexi clamp use a damp micro cloth/scrim then use a dry micro cloth/ scrim to finish .
Never had a problem ,do all my leaded windows this way ,use my pole and trad most days