[Barry Livingstone]

Now now mind all you that have websites for other areas.........dont wind up Major clean and not add your REAL address on it.....

As for my two site the are my address and my partners....

[Adam P]

just realsied something great but haven't got the time to post it before work, will post later. can't wait

feel free to call me and I will explain to you fully how these site work but beware
you will need at least a basic understanding of the following to understand what Iam talking about

lol beware lol, are you trying to scare me off? instead of the list of skills you clearly are great at, instead you will actually just need to know how to use a cheap bit of technology called artisteer, which does all the work for you.

have a look at their demo, it picks the design from thousands of free templates, you then just choose the colour, images you want, text and bingo you have a site made for you. instead of paying £199 for this guy to make it for you pay a minimal amount and you can get it yourself with unlimited changes thereafter for free. you're essentially paying £199 for this guy to link to your website, which is just what google frown upon and although may not currently notice, they will eventually and punish those who link to each other for no reason other then serp boost.

btw i know this software was used as all you have to do it look at the source code, see a template is being used, look at the stylesheet and find the program used to make it, e.g. (carpet cleaning wimbeldon's stylesheet, http://carpetcleaning-wimbledon.co.uk/templates/strikker3/css/template.css, screenshot just in case he removes the line ), first line says what was used to generate the code), look at the demo and you'll see all the sites are extremely similar to this guys sites, look at the favicon (favourite icon next to the address bar) currently used on the carpet cleaning website and you'll see it's the same as being used on http://www.joomla24.com/index.php?set_albumName=album04&option=com_gallery&Itemid=6&include=view_album.php&page=10 and you'll see the thousands of templates ready to use, freely. why pay for this service i don't know.


great knowledge of how to build a decent website
from clicking the link in the header you get 404 error page can't be found, http://carpetcleaningwebsites.co.uk/index.html this is a stupid amateur mistake for it to be in such an important position, ok maybe on a lower down hidden link but up there, when the owner is trying to sell his skills with websites. thing is looking at other websites he "creates" they have the same problems.

i'm trying to help others stop wasting their money, nothing else. don't bother paying £199 when you can do this for free. it's identical to how peopel are with rug doctors, i'm sure you can understand how it comes across when someone trys to sell their service when they use rug doctors. we all know it's better to diy if a rug doctor is used.

i'm sure people will now go against me, i'm just trying to help users remember. i spot a waste of money and something that happens all the time i feel passionate about trying to stop it from happening.

over 10 years experience and the sites you make have plenty of 404 errors.

[derek west]

do it for free?
sounds to good to be true so it must be poo.

your words mate, read em and eat em.

[Adam P]

do it for free?
sounds to good to be true so it must be poo.

your words mate, read em and eat em.

good one? what are you trying to suggest when saying that? was £195 not too good to be true?

i like this template, very similar to this website minus a few changes to colour and left hand side bar.

[derek west]

do it for free?
sounds to good to be true so it must be poo.

your words mate, read em and eat em.

good one? what are you trying to suggest when saying that? was £195 not too good to be true?

i like this template, very similar to this website minus a few changes to colour and left hand side bar.

not compared to free, dp's prices sound very professional now, cheers for that.

[Adam P]

MYSQL Database Optimisation
PHP programming preferabily with and undersatanding of Object Orientated Priciples
Java Script and Jquery
Html & CSS
A Solid understanding of Joomla Core Structure
and an abillity to code using Modal View Control Design Patterns
and for good measure have spent several years in the design industry becoming skilled in design and graphics

anyone else see any similarities to the sales calls you get from places like yell and other online directories? they just spurt a load of fancy words to confuse the customer and make them think they are getting a great deal. so what do you change in the joomla core structure when making a website that simple needs the heading change, the background image changed, and the text? the "core structure" can stay put unless you're doing something that even the user wont know has happened? like creating dead links 

do it for free?
sounds to good to be true so it must be poo.

your words mate, read em and eat em.

good one? what are you trying to suggest when saying that? was £195 not too good to be true?

i like this template, very similar to this website minus a few changes to colour and left hand side bar.

not compared to free, dp's prices sound very professional now, cheers for that.

lol i'm trying to help decent people on these forums from wasting money. you're acting like what i have done has pushed you even more towards thinking that you're getting a good deal, then act like i'd be annoyed, when infact i'm only trying to help good decent people, others can go be foolish with their money as it's foolish customers that you can make more money from, i hope i get a chance to do business with you, i'll have a look out for you at carpex and see if you'll be wanting to buy some magic beans i have for £199, you could of course go buy them yourself for £10, but as i'm chargin £199 that means i'm a professional so it's a good deal. i'm now very happy that my posts are making a difference for the good and i'm sure even more good will come from them

[derek west]

i really couldn't do business with you, i'd be to busy p1ssing myself laughing when you squeezed out of your nissan micra, mop bucket and feather duster in hand, i so couldn't take you seriously. sorry greeny, i'm out.

i'll carry on being a fool like a lot of other cc's on here who have had and are very happy with marks websites.

i'll let you have the last say on the matter. i personally can't carry on this discussion you keep contradicting yourself,.....what was it you said.... he's too cheap so he's an amateur, you should take my advice and get one for free,
your avin a giraffe mate.

[Adam P]

i really couldn't do business with you, i'd be to busy p1ssing myself laughing when you squeezed out of your nissan micra, mop bucket and feather duster in hand, i so couldn't take you seriously. sorry greeny, i'm out.

i'll carry on being a fool like a lot of other cc's on here who have had and are very happy with marks websites.

i'll let you have the last say on the matter. i personally can't carry on this discussion you keep contradicting yourself,.....what was it you said.... he's too cheap so he's an amateur, you should take my advice and get one for free,
your avin a giraffe mate.

i said £199 is amatuers prices, not a professionals, so if you're going to pay, either pay for a professional, or if you can't, then do it yourself for next to nothing, as that's what you're getting with this guy, he fills out a few boxes on a program to chose the header text, main text etc, and then charges £199 for this.

btw there is a few basic things you learn when you first start learning about seo. one is the importance of the h1 tag and how the main keywords should be put in this on each page. the words in the h1 tag on the http://carpetcleaning-wimbledon.co.uk/ website is a phone number, great seo there. seriously amateur stuff that, i mean seriously amateur. have a quick read yourself http://lmgtfy.com/?q=importance+of+the+h1+tag and then even better, the title tag, this is extremely important stuff, and keywords must be here, yet on the same site the word carpet is missing!!! i can't beleive what i'm seeing! ahhh my eyes



anyone ever heard of pagerank? it's what google assign each website and typically the higher pagerank, the higher you're on google, unless there is little competition. http://www.walsall-commercial-cleaners.co.uk/ and the owners other one has a pagerank of 0/10. results are being had purely out of luck that there is little competition, nothing to do with how great the website is, which can be had for practically free as others will happily back me up on.

of course derek you woudln't, i knew this and set you up to predictably insult me, and with what, because i use a small nissan micra when a small car is all that i need. you could have left it saying you wouldn't do business with me but you needed to add the personal insult hmm wonder why.

thing is you wont know who i am at carpex, i'll have a look for an affordable cleaner and i'll confuse with my mumbo jumbo keywords nonsense and i'm sure i'll win you over you feel for it iirc twice already, thats £400 when you could have done it for £50, i'm sure you'll do it again.

[Adam P]

do it for free?
sounds to good to be true so it must be poo.

your words mate, read em and eat em.

good one? what are you trying to suggest when saying that? was £195 not too good to be true?

i like this template, very similar to this website minus a few changes to colour and left hand side bar.

not compared to free, dp's prices sound very professional now, cheers for that.

Derek he is right, why pay £199 to rent a rug doctor when you can buy one for £50, I have taken this from one of the sites Straker eco, its part of the html (hyper text markup language) and its shocking:

<meta name="keywords" content="carpet cleaning, Rug leaning, curtain cleaning" />
  <meta name="title" content="London Wimbledon Cleaning Services" />
  <meta name="description" content="Wimbledon & London Areas Awardwing Eco Friendly Carpet, Rug, Upholstery and Curtain Cleaning Specialists" />
  <meta name="generator" content="Joomla! 1.5 - Open Source Content Management" />

Just visit this link and do it your self for a 1/4 of the price  https://www.siteground.com/  if anyone needs help changing the meta tags for seo just email me, if I have the time I will help you for free, or maybe for a bit of advice on cc.

I dont claim to have two degrees in anything, but I have done a fair few courses a while ago in web design and seo at night school.

Before anyone attacks me with a sarcastic reply, just ask yourself this question, why would someone need to advertise web design and hosting on a carpet cleaning forum, easy pickings maybe,  enough said I think.  

funnily enough i don't think derek wants to be proved wrong, he after all has paid £400 or whatever which he could have saved and he could possibly be on a commission, i mean why defend the creator so much when it's clearly an overpriced service? i'll come back to it again, if someone was to say about how great a rug doctor is they'd quickly go against the person as anyone with knowledge knows although you get "results" it's nothing like those from a professional carpet cleaning machine. this is identical.

people will come back saying they're happy with the result so it's worth it, but completely miss the point. i'm not denying that you're getting results from the website you're given, it's just you're being foolish with your money and buying something that could be had for much much less. as very minimal amounts has gone into the website for some to get success, that means competition can do the same. i have in fact spotted a massive gap in the market. i should contact the competition for the people on this website and explain the situation, explain the lack of seo on the websites listed here and how bugger all was done to get lasting results, so if they paid me a bit of money to improve there seo they'll quickly jump ahead of those listed here. sounds like a ****ing good plan. in fact i could even just use a free template program and then just add basic seo (seo is essentially why you'd pay for a website to be made by a professional rather then diy) as what is lacking with all the websites made by this guy is seo (as well as any input from himself in the design).

even more shocking http://www.walsall-commercial-cleaners.co.uk/ has NOTHING in the h1 tag, not a single thing. over 10 years this guy claims to have experience and all these degrees and knowledge of such unknown skills, yet nothing to back it up but a website made by a program, which are extremely poor quality.

and i have just realised another thing. a lot of free templates are given out with the right to use the design freely, but they need to mention who made it. that means the designs being used are currently braking the rules set out by the owner and once notified will possibly result in a fine being made against the owner of the website. i may be wrong and the free designs are free to use without any mention of the creator, but if i'm right this is quite serious. you're essentially stealing as someone would have put time into creating the template but getting nothing for it. lets hope not aye as if so all the websites listed will need a redesign and as mentioned could face a fine

[happy mondays]

 

Green clean is right Derek, you have mentioned in a previous post that you are having 2 more sites built, WHY??? if you want to spend £199 for each site, thats up to you, but do it yourself for a fraction of the cost or spend the grand on just one site from a reputable company, the site will be done right with a good design, meta tags and keywords that search engines will allow, these companys dont have to come on to forums to get business because they dont need to.

[derek west]

westy
go on your profile and click on your last posts at the bottom

give someone else ago mate, they'll starting getting jealous.

[Mike Halliday]

I have one of his websites.

it could have a million mistakes in the design, and could be from a template that is copied around the country but does it matter to the most important people..... those that search google and find me on page one

the people who find me don't think 'I'm not calling him because his meta tag is wrong', they don't know or care that there is a company in Liverpool that has a site that looks a bit like mine.

I paid £199 for a site that tells my prospective customers everything thy need to know. and is always on page one of google. Maybe I could have paid less and done it my self but I didn't want to. no one is forced to use Marks and its good that you have brought up an alternative way to get a website... it gives people a choice

[John Higgins]

Mark DP Print
Thanks for comment mike
The bottom line on this is the websites make money for carpet cleaners every website we have built as turned a profit for the carpet cleaners who have had them built.

the most important factor in SEO is relevenat incomeing links

ie links to you site on from other carpet cleaning company's all the sites we build are automatically cross linked to each other.

the linking process is dynamic so has more sites are built the more relevant links the sites obtain

As for meta tags Matt Cutts is words no mine he actually works for google

Google doesn’t use the keywords meta tag in web search
September 21, 2009

We wanted to debunk that misconception, at least as it regards to Google. Google uses over two hundred signals in our web search rankings, but the keywords meta tag is not currently one of them, and I don’t believe it will be.

[mitch2810]

What a load of crap! How can you insult this guy and say he is not running a reputable company. I will bet my house on it that his knowledge of web design is far better than yours. What you and the green fellar fail to understand here is that Mark has designed websites for me and dozens of other carpet cleaners at a price we are more than happy with, which is all that matters and it hasnt cost us anything in time, freeing us up to carry on doing what we do best and that is carpet cleaning. You are suggesting that everybody should do it themselves. Do you also think that everybody should hire a rug doctor and clean their own carpets. I dont know how much you charge but lets face it £199 for a website.... two rooms of carpet cleaning and thats it paid for the year, now do you really think that you would not get two rooms of carpet cleaning from a page 1 listed website.

Green clean is right Derek, you have mentioned in a previous post that you are having 2 more sites built, WHY??? if you want to spend £199 for each site, thats up to you, but do it yourself for a fraction of the cost or spend the grand on just one site from a reputable company, the site will be done right with a good design, meta tags and keywords that search engines will allow, these companys dont have to come on to forums to get business because they dont need to.

[Doug Holloway]

Hi Guys

You pays your money you makes your choice!

The main thing which would concern me is ownership, I would want in writing that I am would be able to transfer the domain.

Mark is a nice guy and would not stitch you, but he migft sell up and in a few years time you may find you have problems.

It is easy enough to register sites in the name of the relevant CC and then just build and host them.

Cheers

Doug

[happy mondays]

westy
go on your profile and click on your last posts at the bottom

give someone else ago mate, they'll starting getting jealous.

 ? and

[derek west]

never mind westy, you carry on contradicting every thing i say, i'm fine with that, personally i'd rather work with you than against you. i've never heard a bad word about dreamkleen round here so for me thats good for the industry. keep up the good work and hopefully, affordable cleaners can be as big as your company one day.

[happy mondays]

never mind westy, you carry on contradicting every thing i say, i'm fine with that, personally i'd rather work with you than against you. i've never heard a bad word about dreamkleen round here so for me thats good for the industry. keep up the good work and hopefully, affordable cleaners can be as big as your company one day.

Sorry Derek I am not trying to contradict anything you say, maybe it does look that way, but that isnt my intention, sorry if you feel I am.

I have never heard anything bad against yourself either, all good I'm happy to say.  I would also like to work with you and not against you, after all you are only a couple of miles from me. 

We have had a bad couple of years as a company and have learnt alot in the process, big customers going into administration on us, at least 13k last year that we will never get. Losing a 50k pa tender that we have had for 6years to a new company that is now doing it for peanuts.

I am an honest and open person that appreciates help, and will give advice when needed, although sometimes certain things cant be discussed on an open forum.

[Adam P]

What a load of crap! How can you insult this guy and say he is not running a reputable company. I will bet my house on it that his knowledge of web design is far better than yours.

but this is the thing, he doesn't have very much knowledge at all. the nonsense he is coming out with is ridiculous, he clearly doesn't know what he is doing with the most basic seo as the websites he "creates" have minimal amounts if any at all, let alone more advanced stuff.

Mark DP Print

As for meta tags Matt Cutts is words no mine he actually works for google
Google doesn’t use the keywords meta tag in web search
September 21, 2009

We wanted to debunk that misconception, at least as it regards to Google. Google uses over two hundred signals in our web search rankings, but the keywords meta tag is not currently one of them, and I don’t believe it will be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK7IPbnmvVU

well done, they KEYWORDS meta tag isn't used by google (but other search engines do, so why ignore them when it takes a few seconds to add?) but all other meta tags are looked at by google, clearly shown from the youtube video from the guy himself. what is your point?

as i mentioned i knew people would post about how they get results and that's enough for them, but they don't realise that the reason is simple because there is minimal amounts of competition and the results will not be lasting. all the competition has to do is a tiny bit of on page seo and they'll beat you as your sites have none. you'll then have to pay to have the site updated but it wont be able to be from this guy as he isn't showing an seo knowledge even though he advertises it.

Mark DP Print

the most important factor in SEO is relevant incoming links
ie links to you site on from other carpet cleaning company's all the sites we build are automatically cross linked to each other.

yes relevant incoming links plays a big part in seo, but when they are links that are only there for one reason to boost serp then google doesn't like this and penalises sites that do this. If you don't believe me then think about this. Why do google boost the serp of a website when it's got links? there must be a logical reason for why they chose that. well there is. when you link to anothers website you are essentially recommending them, just as in real life if someone is looking for a good builder, you ask your friends, and they'll tell you one that is decent, so say you're looking on a house building design website and think you need a good builder after you have your design, the design website links to builders it recommends. google sees this and thinks that website being linked to from one that is relevant must be good so we will increase their serp. now if say you was to go to your friend and ask of good builders, and rather then them recommending one that they knew was good from experience with them, they instead suggest one simple because the builder has given them £10 to say so, how is this a useful recommendation? it's not as it's just paid for, nothing to do with how good the builder is at his work, but instead how much they can pay for a recommendation. it's the same with online links. if you're linking because it was paid for or because you're linking to each other then google doesn't like this one bit and will penalise once they realise it. you're getting the same thing on your websites everone, link swapping is going on and google will eventually realise this and punish. again this is such common knowlegde with anyone who has a tiny bit of experience, this, amongst all the other reasons, are why i call this guy amateur (feel free to call me amateur with cleaning as i am).

[derek west]

i remember reading an article in web pro news about meta tags having no or little relevance with google. didn't read it all, didn't see the point, thats what marks for. i just clean carpets.

i had a go at building a website a few months ago, took me all day to knock up 7 pages. can understand building your own if your savvy but if your not then you need to get someone in. thats why mitch put this thread up to recommend a low cost alternative with good results. i got quoted £200 a month for seo on one of my sites, and i got quoted £3500 to build one. glad i turned them down, i'm on page one for all my searches and lets face it, the site doesn't need to be all singing and dancing as long as it gets the message across which i think mine do.
glad i was recomended mark for my website and i would definately reccomend him to anyone else who is not website savvy.

few more points
i'm not on commission allthough i wish i was.
i have used a rug doctor which is why i chose this proffession and also why i slag them off.
and i'm definately NOT a fool. which in my eyes was the first stone cast, hence the micra

right i'm off for some anti glide training so don't ring me steve

have a good day chaps.