[Wrekin C S]

David,

Are there any spaces left in Manchester 25,03,2010 need 2 spaces if possible I have left a phone messge and enquired via email but no reply?

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[Moderator David@stives]

matt

not at all, Willis commented on another thread about something, so my answer was to that.

[matt]

matt

not at all, Willis commented on another thread about something, so my answer was to that.

Oh ok, i thought it was a little strange for you to expect the OTT demands ( see what i did then, i will explain it to you drwindows if you dont get it ) of drwindows, as who would expect Willis to tell us how much he gets

[old timer]

matt

not at all, Willis commented on another thread about something, so my answer was to that.

I beg to differ, the way I see it is you both have a business, you both post things about your business on the forum and both businesses can be damaged by idiots gobbing off (that mainly refers to DRwindows who seems to have problems with bitterness and lacks work resulting in endless forum time).... one difference is you get to control the threads about yours and also comment on the others

[Moderator David@stives]

Old timer

He comes here to sell his goods I dont.

If he wants to sell, then he should  expect the odd awkward question.

I am selling nothing, I come here to share my experiences with my fellow posters

[Moderator David@stives]

P.S

If the Willis family found something particularly damaging to ther business and they emailed me i would look at the offending posts and delete them.

Thats not saying i would just delete all the negative comments and leave the positive ones

Dave

[old timer]

Old timer

He comes here to sell his goods I dont.

If he wants to sell, then he should  expect the odd awkward question.

I am selling nothing, I come here to share my experiences with my fellow posters

I agree there is a difference to the reason why you are both on here, however both can have the same effect from negativity...... do you disagree?

Also although they are selling something I feel the comments by DR Windows are a tad too harsh and he needs to get a life

I am not trying to get at you personally but would you be as well known in the industry if it wasn't for this forum...... therefore I feel it is for business purposes also

[steve a]

Sounds like something fishy going on here, why should it cost you money eg time off for you and workers taking part and travelling etc.

We have just gone through the NVQ level 2 course with Preston college and they come out to you to visit to set up course times and what you need to do on certain dates they gave us folders and worked times around our work. At no time did we have to visit college, all assessing was done on the job, my jobs, that is.

The assessor would ring the day before to check every thing was OK for them to come to wherever we were working that day. They were aware of all aspects of window cleaning and even I who has been doing it for thirty odd years was amazed at how knowledgable they were.

Ask this guy about doing the course on the job.

They contacted me.
they came out to visit.
they gave us all the paperwork in my own premises.
They came and assessed us at our sites.(not just in Preston either).

Steve a 

I can confirm we provide all that Preston have provided you 

We do however also provide cutting edge training which after all was/should be the basis of Train to Gain surely

Would you be happy to advise the total hours your assessor / Preston has provided with you in total and also the Unit titles you have completed.

I am interested what qualification you had before taking the NVQ . This would not be experience but certification which Preston may have been used as prior learning.   

The training provided by us is supplied at our cost and is therefore above the  required total hours we need to provide. "Since you made a comment I am just genuinely interested"

Can not do this at the mo as the folders and other stuff have been taken for assessment by who ever does it (city &guilds, maybe) and we are due to receive back sometime in February with our certificates if successful.

HtH


Steve a

[matt]

Also although they are selling something I feel the comments by DR Windows are a tad too harsh and he needs to get a life

dont we all

[dai]

We're never too old to learn as they say, and I'm sure that I would be surprised if I was to attend one of these courses.
It's not just about learning though is it? It's a lot to do with covering your backside as an employer.
The one thing that nails employers if there's an accident is adequacy of training.
An employer must be able to prove that his employee has been adequately trained to perform his duties, and this is where a course like this has major benefits for both employer and employee.
It's just another example of how the insurance industry is attempting to deal with ambulance chasing lawyers.

[steve a]

We're never too old to learn as they say, and I'm sure that I would be surprised if I was to attend one of these courses.
It's not just about learning though is it? It's a lot to do with covering your backside as an employer.
The one thing that nails employers if there's an accident is adequacy of training.
An employer must be able to prove that his employee has been adequately trained to perform his duties, and this is where a course like this has major benefits for both employer and employee.
It's just another example of how the insurance industry is attempting to deal with ambulance chasing lawyers.

And there is that of course.

[drwindows]

dave i have read your reply and i read it that you expect david willis to answer drwindows idiotic question about how much he gets for each window cleaner

surely you dont expect him to answer it

its like a window cleaner asking you how much you get to clean so-and-so hotel in cornwall, your never going to tell him

Its not an idiotic question at all, and that is a wrong parallel.

Its more like a customer asking how much for a window cleaner to clean his house.

WE are the customers, willis & co are trying to sell their course to us.  Just because they claim the fee from the government, doesnt mean we shouldnt know how much they are claimimg for our training.  I bet its at least £500.

What a suprise, I told you he wouldnt answer that question.

[suds window service]

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[amayze]

Has anyone booked a course yet?

I've booked online for the Northampton course, over a week ago and not heard anything since!