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Ross G

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2010, 10:15:57 am »

Neil, thanks for that it's posts like that that keep me coming back to CIU. Up here in Edinburgh it's been the worst I can remember since I was a wee lad, i've managed to do 1 day this week. It's a hard one to be sitting about indoors when it's wall to wall blue skies and sunshine, but if anything it feels even colder this morning.
Cards on the table on Monday though it's back to work no matter what and i'll certainly be using some of yours and some of the other guys on here tips. I'm liking that 11.00 am start rule, that could be implemented all year round (I wish).
Keep yer peckers up (Dambusters theme plays loudly in the background as I leave room to go   









and put the kettle on)
 ;)

lst class cleaning

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2010, 10:32:02 am »
Well done to that guy with the 1st post, im sitting at home looking out the window looks beautiful but i no it's deadly out there, managed 2 days this week, im a real pusher with work and never miss any days however after 21 years this week certainly beat me so for those of you sitting at home theirs not much you can do.

cheers

jim 1st class Liverpool

GoCleanLimited

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2010, 11:05:46 am »
Neil100 thanks for a well informative post. That's the value of a forum like this for me.

I've been searching around where to get a ceramic oil such as Neil suggested. Google isn't giving up much this morning. I'll keep digging and if I find a supplier I'll post here.

tia
Graeme

gewindows

Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2010, 11:21:43 am »
Neil100 thanks for a well informative post. That's the value of a forum like this for me.

I've been searching around where to get a ceramic oil such as Neil suggested. Google isn't giving up much this morning. I'll keep digging and if I find a supplier I'll post here.

tia
Graeme

http://alturl.com/rz7v

TonyD

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2010, 11:30:32 am »
Neil100 thanks for a well informative post. That's the value of a forum like this for me.

I've been searching around where to get a ceramic oil such as Neil suggested. Google isn't giving up much this morning. I'll keep digging and if I find a supplier I'll post here.

tia
Graeme

http://alturl.com/rz7v

That's Silicone oil, not to be let anywhere near your pole, Silicone oil will seriously ruin the cleaning if it reaches the brush, which it will if it's on the pole.
 

TonyD

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2010, 11:33:55 am »
I've never heard of Ceramic oil ?  I've used ceramic ingredients for years in my auto detailing business, but they're always used as an abrasive, as in Detailing clay, which uses ceramic ingredients as the abrasive ingredient, or some polishes that have ceramic particles as the abrasive working ingredient.  I'd guess any oil with ceramic ingredients would be abrasive and damaging to a pole and it's fittings.  Do you have a link to this patented Ceramic oil ?

TonyD

  • Posts: 331
Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2010, 11:41:50 am »
Do you think you're insurance will pay out if you put any water on the ground that freezes (which it will) and someone slips and puts a claim in ?   Then the insurance find out that you where knowingly cleaning in minus degrees.

I think working wfp when the temperature is below zero is just wrong, if not for the sole fact that you're releasing water in freezing temperature, risking not only yours and your staffs health but putting customers at risk to accidents too. 


wizard

Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2010, 11:45:26 am »
Ceramic or Silicone oil is produced by silica sand so it could be abrasive or smooth. Also used in hair products and sealers.If does get on glass it will make the glass hydrofobic and water will just run off . But if applied and wiped of I think it would be better.It can be washed off with soapy water with borax added.

stfc

Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #28 on: January 08, 2010, 12:19:49 pm »
just been looking at the forcast apparantly sunday,monday tuesday its above freezing ranging from 0 to 3,went out this morning and again water on window just froze up

telboy

Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2010, 12:43:30 pm »
 a special patented ceramic oil
Could you tell us what it is called and where we could buy some please ;)

neil100

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2010, 09:50:21 pm »
For those asking about the Ceramic oil here is a bit more info on the oil:-                                       Ceramic Wet is so unique and leading edge its been patented!
Finish Line have combined engineered ceramics with the slipperiest fluoropolymers available, and put it into a base of premium pure 100% synthetic oils
Every time you use Ceramic Wet, it builds a ceramic coating into frictional surfaces that results in increasingly smoother performance
Ceramic coating allows the chain to run extremely clean since dirt does not stick to it easily
Overall drive chain noise is reduced for near silent running and gear changing
Ceramic Wet delivers the ultimate in long lasting, yet clean running performance
Provides long intervals between applications, perfect for riders who like to spend their time riding not maintaining their bike!

Its a cycle oil but superb on poles.If you check the website they also do a ceramic wax which is also excellent.Are the web site.If you like cycling youwilllove it.

http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/sp/road-track-bike/Lubricants-Oils-Degreasers-Finish-Line-Ceramic-Wet-Lubricant/FINILUBE370
Been at worktoday -5degrees when we set off at 11am but the first pole froze out at 3.40pm.

Keep safe Neil


Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2010, 11:10:58 pm »
The thing that worries me mostly is what customers will say when you start spraying water on their paths/around their house etc which will then freeze - no matter how much salt you chuck on it!!

I've only done a couple of days this week due to the fact I could only barely drive our car up our back lane let alone pull a trailer too! But I really need to do some next week.

I've made a list of stuff I can do whatever the weather which will keep me ticking over. It also means that if the weather does clear up a bit I can prioritise on the work that may cause me problems in the minus temps.

Here's hoping the weatherman is wrong and more snow is not heading our way...

gewindows

Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #32 on: January 08, 2010, 11:12:52 pm »
Neil100 thanks for a well informative post. That's the value of a forum like this for me.

I've been searching around where to get a ceramic oil such as Neil suggested. Google isn't giving up much this morning. I'll keep digging and if I find a supplier I'll post here.

tia
Graeme

http://alturl.com/rz7v

That's Silicone oil, not to be let anywhere near your pole, Silicone oil will seriously ruin the cleaning if it reaches the brush, which it will if it's on the pole.
 

Thats what Mr Gardiner recommends mate.

gewindows

Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #33 on: January 08, 2010, 11:15:20 pm »
Do you think you're insurance will pay out if you put any water on the ground that freezes (which it will) and someone slips and puts a claim in ?   Then the insurance find out that you where knowingly cleaning in minus degrees.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=87584.msg783163#msg783163

Mike #1

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2010, 08:49:34 am »
i have the streamline lite-5 pole hose which works in temp down to -5 never had it frezze yet , just other parts and on glass

Rob.Hall

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #35 on: January 09, 2010, 11:08:11 am »
Yep, the freezing pole info is well cool.......Sorry about lingo...been around my boy a lot recently ::)

Dougaldum

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Re: Tips on working wfp in the Freezing Weather
« Reply #36 on: January 09, 2010, 12:10:13 pm »
My tip is using a back pack or trolley so you haven't got as much hose on the ground. I only do the upstairs with wfp so not as much water used. Also use a towel on downstairs windowsill to catch most of the water so that less falls on the ground and freezes. Use trad on downstairs.