[Gav Camm lammy 283]

its a hard time of year we'll get through it

[G Griffin]

its a hard time of year we'll get through it

Oh I don`t know.
   "I`m just going outside; I may be away some time".

[Sir Squeaky]

You can't do it properly with a squeegee on a pole at that length, that's the problem.

In these damp conditions even downstairs windows are a nightmare to wipe the edges.
Totally impossible on a 12ft pole!

[Window Washers]

You can't do it properly with a squeegee on a pole at that length, that's the problem.

In these damp conditions even downstairs windows are a nightmare to wipe the edges.
Totally impossible on a 12ft pole!

Not being rude, but practice m8 are you not very good at trad cleaning ?, this weather would make no difference wiping the edges or are you looking for an excuse ? it is not ideal but you need money, that is an option to earn some

[traps7]

You can't do it properly with a squeegee on a pole at that length, that's the problem.

In these damp conditions even downstairs windows are a nightmare to wipe the edges.
Totally impossible on a 12ft pole!

I agree. Trad poles are fine for shops but there's no way you'll get a good finish on first floor windows. Dazmond is always banging on about his trad poles!

[AuRavelling79]

I'm with Dazmond on this - if you need money desperately then trad pole will keep you going - and £50 is better than sitting at home using the heat and light.

[simon w]

First bit of snow for us "Bristol" was Sunday night started about 10pm ish, woke up 6am Monday morning went out removed snow from windscreen and windows on van, mostly powder but some ice as well, probably used half can deicer with plenty of scraping as well, doors didn't take too much effort to open.

My 650LTR tank was completely full of pure water ready for work, the tank I have is thermally insulated no working parts are exposed out side the tank, twin pumps, DI bottles are both inside the insulated cabinet tank, the half inch outlet hoses about 1 metre in length are lagged with pipe lagging I don't bother to remove this and keep it on throughout the year, I do remove the two half inch hoses from the external outlet port wrap them and keep them inside the van.

All W F Poles and hose reels stay in garage over night no heater, it always remains above freezing I think because it's well insulated and attached to the house.

Started work an hour later than normal "9am", had a few problems for the first hour with tee pieces freezing on brush heads, but managed to cure that with some hot water and keeping the water flow higher than normal,
managed to clean three care homes and a small office all external we keep 25kg sacks of sodium grit for paths and entrances, but to be honest the three care homes had already had their paths and entrances gritted before we'd arrived so this didn't become much of an issue for us.
Finished work now for Xmas will be back again on 30 December for one day and then back to work on 4 Jan 2010.

Merry Xmas to all and I hope you all have a prosperous new year.

Simon. 

[G Griffin]

I'm with Dazmond on this - if you need money desperately then trad pole will keep you going - and £50 is better than sitting at home using the heat and light.

You`ve made me feel guilty now, I`m not working.

[Londoner]

There come a point where I have to say is it worth it? If you do turn up at the customers they think you are mad. They you risk falling over and when you do finally get started you end up with two ice lollys running down the glass and your jets freeze.

A man's got to know his limitations. My van was reading an air temperature of -5.4 C yesterday at 8.30am. Nobody can clean windows in that. Surely most of us have a little put by for such eventualities.

[Nathanael Jones]

Trad poling is a lot easier with a wagtail,.. but it is slower than trad by hand and you might have trouble with water freezing on the glass?

[dazmond]

ive been using trad poles for years!!NEVER HAD ONE COMPLAINT!!HONESTLY!i always make sure i use a good rubber on my squeegy and use a bone dry microfibre in a clamp for detailing!fine for regular cleaned 1st floor windows.most people dont even look at their upstairs windows anyway!i make sure the downstairs ones are spot on though!defo worth it when ur system is froze and its too dangerous to use WFP!with the extra money due to xmas tips etc it all adds up and keeps me ticking over!im well practised in the use of trad poles and im pretty quick now but when i started using them it took a few months to do a competent job at a reasonable pace!

[dazmond]

in this weather 11am-4pm is better than not working.what if this weather comes back for a few weeks in jan/feb/march?£80-£100 a day is better than zilch!i also feel better getting out in the fresh cold air than sitting in with the heating on all day not earning!saying that its blizzard like conditions here in the north west now!might have to leave it til tommorrow!! :

[Gleaming windows]

I cant see how you can do a satisfactory job with a squeegee on the end of a 12' pole either.

If that was the case why didnt we all used to clean like that instead of using ladders before WFP? I know why and Im no genius.

Try brushing your hair with a comb on the end of a 12' pole, sowing on a button, mixing up some concrete and lay some bricks, change the oil in your car, go on smart-arses  and then take a picture, see what it looks like.

[Gleaming windows]

Heres a wall I built earlier using a twelve foot pole












Not quite how I want it to look, sure they said it was a special comb for 12' poles 











I tried shaving with my razor on the end of a twelve foot pole, anyone got a plaster?

[Sir Squeaky]

You can't do it properly with a squeegee on a pole at that length, that's the problem.

In these damp conditions even downstairs windows are a nightmare to wipe the edges.
Totally impossible on a 12ft pole!

Not being rude, but practice m8 are you not very good at trad cleaning ?, this weather would make no difference wiping the edges or are you looking for an excuse ? it is not ideal but you need money, that is an option to earn some

Not at all, I'm very good at trad cleaning. I did it for 10 years, come on!
But pole work is good enough for shop fronts only. Doing customers windows on the upstairs is asking for trouble.

Besides, my last squeegee rubber is about 3 months old!
Definitely wouldn't manage it with that!

[dazmond]

its worked for me matt for years thats why i was undecided about wfp.but i think wfp will be a lot quicker.trad pole work takes marginally longer than a ladders but obviously wfp cleans frames and sills thoroughly.also its harder work with a trad pole.bringing it down to change tools etc.their no good for leaded or georgian though it has been known for me to use a damp scrim/microfibre in a clamp on a pole to give them a quick tickle if their not too dirty!but like i say i make sure the bottoms esp living room/kitchen windows are spot on!ladders are used normally .trad pole for awkward/dangerous windows under normal working conditions.

[dazmond]

it is not hard to squeegy a window off with a pole on 1st floor windows once u get the hang of it!angle adaptor/good rubber/dry microfibre in a clamp for detailing.whats the problem?maybe the odd line down the window occasionally just like the spotting u wfp guys leave behind!! .ive had a lot of practice!!im going nowhere today as its heavy snow here.doesnt look like showing any signs of abating :.

like the humour matt!!

[G Griffin]

Not the best time to start learning/practicing with a trad pole though is it?

[williamx]

I crashed the van Sunday night on the mountains in Cumbria, while I am waiting for the insurance company to get into gear with a replacement van, I have to hire a trannie for £30 a day to clear off the back log I have.

Roll on the 5 January.

3 weeks in The Gambia, with plenty of Sun, Sea, Lager and no bloody frozen windows

[martinsadie]

i think id get wfp before i started fannying about with a pole on upstairs