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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2009, 07:55:50 pm »
Ian if you have a 110V machine and plug it straight into your custards leccy supply it wont work.

If I buy one of these the thing to do is buy the 110V model with transformer and use custards leccy.

Dont use 240V outside, your asking for trouble.
Matt, I am not stupit, I know about volts and custards  ::)

Sorry mate, thought you was confused, I am  ;D

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2009, 07:59:00 pm »
The hose is a light weight hose, however the higher you go its obviously heavier and is advisable to have 2 operatives,

Within our services part of the company we to maintain apartment blocks and we never plug into the mains, we always use a genny.

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2009, 07:59:27 pm »
Interesting...........

Craig, what are your views (or Numatics) regarding using the vac with a generator in wet conditions 240v?

I'm asking 'cos I use mine (same as Omnivacs but diy) in wet weather. Some people don't worry whilst others say no way! Omni wouldn't comment on here when I asked.

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2009, 08:02:29 pm »
We would strongly advise against using any electric appliances in wet conditions. safest way is a 110v with a genny.

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2009, 08:06:26 pm »
 I keep seeing the words " two people "regarding gutter vacs.  If they need two people, I may just has well have someone footing the ladder instead.
The whole point of a gutter vac for me, is to save on labour, by doing it myself.

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2009, 08:10:17 pm »
If you use a 6kva generator you need two people to lift that out of the van, its heavy.

lots of our customers use it on houses with one operative, however we need to advise the safest way!

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2009, 08:12:50 pm »
Keep my gennie in a trailer - nearly gave myself a hernia getting it in there initially.  :o

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2009, 08:13:00 pm »
I think i spoke to you didnt i Steven? few weeks back.

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2009, 08:14:38 pm »
I keep seeing the words " two people "regarding gutter vacs.  If they need two people, I may just has well have someone footing the ladder instead.
The whole point of a gutter vac for me, is to save on labour, by doing it myself.

Yer sod the safety part ah  ::)

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #29 on: November 07, 2009, 08:19:00 pm »
Yes, thats right. I will be ordering one early December. With some other bits.  

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2009, 08:21:16 pm »
If you use a 6kva generator you need two people to lift that out of the van, its heavy.

lots of our customers use it on houses with one operative, however we need to advise the safest way!
I have a 6kva and wheel it out of the van it is fitted too, there are ways to do this with one person safe without lifting and straining, cost me about £150 ish.

I am glad a supplier is being honest in rergards to the volts on a vac, using 240 volts in the rain is plain stupid, unless they want to replace jamie affro on xfactor
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2009, 08:22:58 pm »
 Are use the customers electricity instead. .

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2009, 08:25:11 pm »
If you use a 6kva generator you need two people to lift that out of the van, its heavy.

lots of our customers use it on houses with one operative, however we need to advise the safest way!
I have a 6kva and wheel it out of the van it is fitted too, there are ways to do this with one person safe without lifting and straining, cost me about £150 ish.

I am glad a supplier is being honest in rergards to the volts on a vac, using 240 volts in the rain is plain stupid, unless they want to replace jamie affro on xfactor

Kev Red never thought so, regularly used his in the pouring rain with employees too.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=64741.0

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2009, 09:28:29 pm »

Water and electric do not mix.  Which anyone knows.
 But if the electrical device is waterproofed, with some kind of breaker, then its a different story. It is the current, not the voltage that is dangerous.
Don't know why you went off on one ftp..

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #34 on: November 07, 2009, 11:18:24 pm »
If you use a 6kva generator you need two people to lift that out of the van, its heavy.

lots of our customers use it on houses with one operative, however we need to advise the safest way!
I have a 6kva and wheel it out of the van it is fitted too, there are ways to do this with one person safe without lifting and straining, cost me about £150 ish.

I am glad a supplier is being honest in rergards to the volts on a vac, using 240 volts in the rain is plain stupid, unless they want to replace jamie affro on xfactor

Kev Red never thought so, regularly used his in the pouring rain with employees too.

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=64741.0
I would lay money Kev red would say he was silly for doing this, lucky it did not cause a problem.

then main point is, do not mix water with electric, if you dont care about yourself, think of others or it could and will land you in prison should a very bad thing happen, loads will say will not happen to me, the one it happens to will say I should have listened to that, dont be that idiot!! idiots will not listen and think they know better.........
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #35 on: November 07, 2009, 11:22:09 pm »

Water and electric do not mix.  Which anyone knows.
 But if the electrical device is waterproofed, with some kind of breaker, then its a different story. It is the current, not the voltage that is dangerous.
Don't know why you went off on one ftp..

 ??? I didn't

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Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #36 on: November 07, 2009, 11:55:13 pm »

Water and electric do not mix.  Which anyone knows.
 But if the electrical device is waterproofed, with some kind of breaker, then its a different story. It is the current, not the voltage that is dangerous.
Don't know why you went off on one ftp..

 ??? I didn't
I was the one that said it, and would love kev R to comment, I know he would 100% agre with me on the safe aspect of the vac 110 volt, 240 is house use, you are not house use, there for suppliers should only sell youi the 110 v vac, they dont as they want your money, that is fact, (correct me if I am wrong)

none seem to be doing this at the moment, i guess i am banned from ordering  :) if so it will work against you  ;)
If your not willing to learn, No one can help you, If you are determined to learn, No one can stop you ;)

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #37 on: November 08, 2009, 12:00:31 am »
not banned here, im happy to sell you a 110v !!

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #38 on: November 08, 2009, 12:11:19 am »
No i will only offer  YOU a 110v. We stock both as they are also used for floods, gully's, drains, high ledges etc internal and external, so we have to offer choice.

Buffing machines, standard vacs, carpet cleaning machines, steam cleaners are all 230-240v and used by cleaning companies.

Re: Polarbrite gutter vac
« Reply #39 on: November 08, 2009, 12:16:45 am »
I agree 110v is safer, however know that within the cleaning industry both HAVE TO be available.

Thats why Numatic, Karcher etc manufacture both. And why we to offer both.