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ftp

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Superlight brush question
« on: October 13, 2009, 07:34:57 pm »
I've been using the flocked version for some time now but have decided to go back to the dual trim mono version. Why is it that the splay characteristics are totally different? It feels very scratchy and won't splay so well. Will there be a softer version one day.
Or am I imagining things.

macmac

Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2009, 07:38:39 pm »
You're such a brush "anorak" davith!! ;D

ftp

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2009, 07:45:33 pm »
You're such a brush "anorak" davith!! ;D

I'll have you know 'Ant' I can walk the whole length of B&Q, Wikes, Focus and any superstore these days without the need to fondle the brushes on the way!

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2009, 07:47:25 pm »
I've been using the flocked version for some time now but have decided to go back to the dual trim mono version. Why is it that the splay characteristics are totally different? It feels very scratchy and won't splay so well. Will there be a softer version one day.
Or am I imagining things.

You are not imagining things, they have different diameter bristle strand sizes.  The flocked uses .02mm thinner bristles than the mono-filament.

ftp

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2009, 07:55:18 pm »
Have you experimented with softer dual trims Alex? Or is there no need.

luther1

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2009, 07:56:11 pm »
For day in day out regular domestic cleans is the dt flocked the best choice? Its what i use but wondered if any of the other Superlites were an alternative?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2009, 07:58:31 pm »
Have you experimented with softer dual trims Alex? Or is there no need.

I really think any softer than the current flocked dual trim would just be too soft.  I have played around with various formulas and personally am happy with where we are now.  Do you have the latest version of the flocked dual trim as the latest version (5-6 weeks) has increased angle of splay on the outer bristles making it feel a lot softer.  We also have the same angle of splay on the latest mono-filament dual trims with the same effect.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2009, 07:59:15 pm »
For day in day out regular domestic cleans is the dt flocked the best choice? Its what i use but wondered if any of the other Superlites were an alternative?

I would say the latest flocked dual trim is the best choice for this type of work.

luther1

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2009, 08:02:20 pm »
For day in day out regular domestic cleans is the dt flocked the best choice? Its what i use but wondered if any of the other Superlites were an alternative?

I would say the latest flocked dual trim is the best choice for this type of work.

Many thanks. Also Alex, will you being doing a 650litre ish holding tank van mount. I pick up my new Transporter on the 15th Nov and are debating a new purchase or just swapping from old van to new?

Sapphire Window Cleaning

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2009, 08:03:29 pm »
For day in day out regular domestic cleans is the dt flocked the best choice? Its what i use but wondered if any of the other Superlites were an alternative?

I would say the latest flocked dual trim is the best choice for this type of work.



Alex does the Flocked duel trim fit the extel style poles?
Reaching parts traditional window cleaners can not reach.

ftp

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2009, 08:09:33 pm »
I think I probably have the latest flocked but have been having some problems with spotting and leaving trails of spots behind - my view being that the flagged ends hold too much dirt and if left trailing the glass they contaminate the water. I like the action of the flocked but prefer the rinsability of the mono.  ;D Fussy aren't I?

luther1

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 08:11:28 pm »
I think I probably have the latest flocked but have been having some problems with spotting and leaving trails of spots behind - my view being that the flagged ends hold too much dirt and if left trailing the glass they contaminate the water. I like the action of the flocked but prefer the rinsability of the mono.  ;D Fussy aren't I?

No,just a  pro!  ;D

macmac

Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 08:13:17 pm »
You're such a brush "anorak" davith!! ;D

I'll have you know 'Ant' I can walk the whole length of B&Q, Wikes, Focus and any superstore these days without the need to fondle the brushes on the way!

Nooo Waaayyy!! I can hear the tanoy now "step away from the bently section" ;D

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 08:14:30 pm »

Many thanks. Also Alex, will you being doing a 650litre ish holding tank van mount. I pick up my new Transporter on the 15th Nov and are debating a new purchase or just swapping from old van to new?

We will be bringing out a 650ish litre van mount system.  These will be of a completely unique design, fully crash-tested and would cost about £2800 for the RO version unfitted (+VAT).

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2009, 08:15:22 pm »


Alex does the Flocked duel trim fit the extel style poles?

Yes it does.  It fits all poles/goosenecks that have a standard European screw thread.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2009, 08:16:01 pm »
I think I probably have the latest flocked but have been having some problems with spotting and leaving trails of spots behind - my view being that the flagged ends hold too much dirt and if left trailing the glass they contaminate the water. I like the action of the flocked but prefer the rinsability of the mono.  ;D Fussy aren't I?

Not fussy, just a professional as Luther said.

windowswashed

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2009, 08:18:41 pm »
Loathe the new flocked brushes. Terrible, completely different characteristics to the previous version which was brilliant on sash and georgian windows.

Alex have you posted the two old versions out to me yet as I'm sure they were meant to arrive last week.

luther1

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2009, 08:21:16 pm »
Will the Gardiner household be offering B&B whilst vans are being kitted out,or is it an in and out process?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2009, 08:27:07 pm »
Loathe the new flocked brushes. Terrible, completely different characteristics to the previous version which was brilliant on sash and georgian windows.

Alex have you posted the two old versions out to me yet as I'm sure they were meant to arrive last week.

I thought they had been posted to you but I have emailed the Office and asked them to check.   So far I think you are the only person that prefers the old style.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Superlight brush question
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2009, 08:29:59 pm »
Will the Gardiner household be offering B&B whilst vans are being kitted out,or is it an in and out process?

Not according to Mrs Gardiner  :D - 5 kids in the house is enough!  We are hoping to offer fitting facilities in over 50 locations throughout the UK so hopefully there will be one within 40 miles of you.