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I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« on: May 17, 2005, 09:06:36 pm »
This thread is a little off-topic, apart from the fact that I received a call from the MOD police today while I was window cleaning; and an extremely interested customer listened in.

I was questioned, quite nicely by a Police Sergeant over the disapearance of 42 grand!

The background is, a friend of mine was a Regimental Accountant in the army.  I stood in for him for a four week period while he went on a course about three years ago (when I was in the army).

I didn't really know what I was doing; but I received cash in and paid cash out, if authorised vouchers were presented to me.  Apparently; I could've stolen the money during this period.

Unknown to me, my friend, over a period of time had apparantly embezzled £42,000.00 before he left the army.  I left eight months before him.

Anyway, it looks like I'm being investigated too and I'm to be interviewed next week by the MOD Police!  I've told Wor Lass to hide all her porn, just in case they arrive with a search warrant!

I just wish to state, before I disapear from this site for a lengthy term getting a stripy suntan; had I stole £42,000.00 I wouldn't be climbing ladders for a living.  I'd have a top-of-the-range water fed pole system!

When it all comes out in the wash, it should make the newspapers.  Remember you heard it from Windows_Chepstow first!

I just hope they don't dig up our garden!

james44

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2005, 09:15:56 pm »
 Top off the range  wfp system ,   ;D

rosskesava

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2005, 09:54:09 pm »
£42 000 is small time.

I worked on the railways and in the good old days, prior to the charade that is privatisation, 6 tickets collectors between them over a 5 year period collected probably well easily over £500 000 on the barriers at Gatwick Airport and put it in their pockets.

This was late eighties early nineties.

They got away with it on the basis of first of all the Railways should have realised sooner and secondly the only evidence other than heresay was about £300 odd known to have been pocketed by the ticket collectors by plain clothed ticket inspectors who set them up. (One of them who helped was me who had to pretend to be a passenger who hadn't bought a ticket at Victoria but wanted to pay at the barrier at Gatwick ;D  I had just been employed by BR as a shunter)

They got the sack plus small fines. Was it worth it?  ::)

Personally Tosh, I think you have nothing to worry about but I'll keep my eye on the papers and if I read nothing - I'll leak the story for a few bob to the Sun or Daily Mail.

I'll give you 50%.

Cheers

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2005, 09:59:00 pm »
Ross,

I'm not clever enough to commit a white collar crime like accountancy fraud!

Mugging people; yes.  Cooking the books; no.

I found it slightly sureal explaining how an army Regiment organises it's finances; and how it would've been impossible for me to pilfer 42 grand to a police plod, while standing at the top of a ladder with a smiling customer in the garden.

I'm not really in the spot light.  I guess they just have to cover all possiblilities.


rosskesava

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2005, 10:09:40 pm »
Hi Windows

I agree. Cooking the books is too complex.

The only person I tried to mug didn't give me a penny.

Never ever try and mug your missus.

She'll reckonise you straight away and give you hell on the spot and carry on for weeks on end.  ;D

matt

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2005, 10:58:50 pm »
good luck

i expect they are just tie'ing up loose ends etc


good job they dont have kangaroo courts  ;)

baldeagle

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2005, 11:10:33 pm »
You might find the following to be a comfort....

Some number of years ago I worked for a Government Dept, and I was "lent out" on occasions to the Home Office.

I can't give too many details, but part of my job was observing the Police.

Most of them were, and from what I still see are still, the thickest, most stupid individuals it has ever been my misfortune to meet.

The best part of my job was that when I had to report on their behaviour and actions, I used to write the truth in my reports and slag them off to the Home Office something rotten, [and all ranks, too!].

There was never any comeback, and I got the distinct impression that the Home Office, [unofficially, at least], agreed with me!

If the "MODPLOD" are anything like the civvy lot, just go into it with the knowledge that you have a far more superior intellect than them, right from the start.

Baldeagle in Staffordshire.
"John the Window Cleaner."
A business founded during the Elizabethan age.

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2005, 11:39:34 pm »
If the "MODPLOD" are anything like the civvy lot, just go into it with the knowledge that you have a far more superior intellect than them, right from the start.

Thanks, Baldeagle, but you obviously don't know me very well.

Thanks for your support too, Graham!


texas girl

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2005, 03:58:49 am »
Windows,

It's always something isn't it? Hang in there. You know you did nothing wrong.

Hopefully this will blow over soon.

Hugs,

Texas Girl :-*
Debbie

dennis buller

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2005, 05:19:49 am »
TOSH,
it will only be routine, mainly to see if you knew your mate was at it, you can only be tried by your c.o for up to 3 months ater leaving the service and a court martial for up to 6 months after leaving. so they will have to take you to the civil courts. that is a good thing has the MOD police from expierence only deal with missing sailors washing, so they aint that bright. how ever there is an organisation called forces law and these lawyers are ex-forces barristers and very good in matters such has these. you are welcome to any support from me or any further advice.
DENNIS (if your porn is too hot too stash perhaps i could provide a safe house)

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2005, 09:18:42 am »
Ouch Baldeagle :-\ - I was one of H.M.'s civvy street thickies and those generalisations are as inappropriate for the police as they are for window cleaners - good and bad - stupid and bright people form the basis of most organisations. Amen ;D

Ian_Giles

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2005, 09:36:02 am »
A most interesting topic, now drifting utterly away from anything window cleaning related.
Moderator hat on I'm afraid, give it some relevance guys, you know the form if you don't :-X..........

Regards

Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Duke

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2005, 04:10:37 pm »
I clean a policeman's house Ian...does that count ? (lol...sorry, it's a wind up)

Ian_Giles

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #13 on: May 18, 2005, 04:41:25 pm »
I'll forgive you Duke, but your name goes in my little black book ;) Come the revolution...... 8)


Ian
Ian. ISM CLEANING SERVICES

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #14 on: May 18, 2005, 05:46:25 pm »
A most interesting topic, now drifting utterly away from anything window cleaning related.
Moderator hat on I'm afraid, give it some relevance guys, you know the form if you don't :-X..........

Regards

Ian

A MOD Police sergeant called Steve, who sounds like he wants to be my best mate, phoned and has arranged to visit me tomorrow evening.  My missis is 'flapping' thinking I'm going to be 'stitched up', but she's been watching too much of The Bill.

Don't tell anyone, but I know my mate did it.  He reckons it's going to be worth a six month tour of Her Majesties Establishment.  He says it can't be any worse than a six month tour of Bosnia, and the pay is far better (£42,000 tax free).  It's just unfortunate I stood in for him when he went on a course.  But I'm honest and everything was above board - so no worries here.

Anyway, Ian, sorry mate.  Thanks for the help for the quote etc the other day.  To rein it back onto window cleaning, when Steve, my potential best friend calls with his notebook tomorrow; I'll ask him if his windows need doing. 

Never miss an opportunity for getting new business!

zeusjazmin

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2005, 08:36:48 pm »
hey chepstow,now you know i dont earn much ,if you go on a forced holiday for a few years ,can i take over your round ;D

dustycorner

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #16 on: May 18, 2005, 08:58:59 pm »
Hi Tosh ,

Have crimewatch contacted you yet for a reconstruction?

Cheers Mark.

dai

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #17 on: May 18, 2005, 09:19:30 pm »
Hi Tosh, could you mention that it may be in my garden, My mrs is getting on to me, hasn't been dug for years, Dai

rosskesava

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #18 on: May 18, 2005, 09:41:42 pm »
Tosh

I can just see the headlines

'Geordie Window Cleaner Accused of Cleaning Out the Army'.

and the first paragraph in the Sun

A window cleaner today was accused of putting our soldiers lives at risk by alledgedly cleaning the Army of £42 000 when he was a serving officer. An army spokeman said that front line resources are being put at risk by this type of theft as the money was intended for vital equipment used by our brave boys who are serving their country...............

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #19 on: May 18, 2005, 09:50:06 pm »
Aye, aye, you're all very funny.

I'll have a bit of fun with my 'potential best mate' tomorrow and tell you what he says.

rosskesava

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #20 on: May 19, 2005, 12:00:08 am »
Sorry Ian

Maybe not see it as 'off topic' but more as a 'human interest' story by a w/c.

Anyway, Windows_Chepstow started it so it's his fault.

Cheers

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #21 on: May 19, 2005, 08:58:20 pm »
'Steve' visited this evening to ask me a whole load of questions (after following my bad directions and getting hopelessly lost).

He's a copper who spoke to an accountant yesturday, who gave him a whole load of accountancy related questions to ask me.  Unfortunately, Steve didn't write them down properly; so I was asked a lot of questions that were difficult to understand.  Rubbish in = Rubbish out.

Anyway, it looks like they've got my mate in a corner.  They've asked the bank to provide copies of every cheque he's wrote over a four year period.  It took a year to get the information; but they've got it; so some bright spark will go through every transaction he's ever done and find out how he's snaffled the money away.

I did take the opportunity to stick the knife into my old boss and Commanding Officer; with regards to their sloping shoulders and lack of care towards regulations.  I didn't like either of the two self-serving gits.

So, Steve will be typing up my statement, then e-mailing it to me; so I can make changes; then print it out and post it back to him.  Saves him some travelling time I suppose.

Anyway, apologies to the Mods.  Why don't you delete this thread after anyone whose interested has had a chance to read it?  Say tomorrow?

Regards

Tosh.

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #22 on: May 19, 2005, 09:53:06 pm »
hey chepstow,now you know i dont earn much ,if you go on a forced holiday for a few years ,can i take over your round ;D

Zues,

I know of a local round going for sale!  Why don't you sell up, buy this round and re-locate?  You better move fast though. 

busydaffodil

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #23 on: May 25, 2005, 09:18:31 pm »
hey chepstow,now you know i dont earn much ,if you go on a forced holiday for a few years ,can i take over your round ;D

Zues,

I know of a local round going for sale!  Why don't you sell up, buy this round and re-locate?  You better move fast though. 

Is this round in Chepstow?   Hubby starting up in South Wales Area.
Lizzy

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #24 on: May 25, 2005, 09:20:07 pm »
Yes, PM sent.

stevekennedy

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Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #25 on: May 29, 2005, 08:06:42 pm »
Hi Tosh,

You shouldn't really discuss this on here. It could prejudice any future case. Check with your solicitor.

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2005, 07:28:05 pm »
Hi Tosh,

You shouldn't really discuss this on here. It could prejudice any future case. Check with your solicitor.

Steve,

I don't really care, Mate.  The money wasn't stolen from a charity or a worthy cause.  It was taken from a fund which actively seeks to drain money from squaddies; and then spent (sometimes on their welfare), but normally how the Commanding Officer thinks is best.

I haven't been told I can't talk about the case; or not to speak to my mate; but I WAS asked if I would speak to him.  I said truthfully said, 'Yes'.

They can't make me pregnant; and I thought this might be a semi-interesting thread.  It's had enough view?  And it's a reminder to me to check my e-mail to see if my statement has been sent for me to amend it.

Remember; when it makes the Sun newspaper; you heard it from me first!

cleanthrough

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2005, 07:30:37 pm »
Hello

How is this cleaning related?

I had my post edited/deleted for just saying how some old bint canceld on me  because I was gay.


John

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #28 on: May 31, 2005, 08:20:04 pm »
Hello

How is this cleaning related?

I had my post edited/deleted for just saying how some old bint canceld on me  because I was gay.


John

John,

I thought your post was interesting; but I don't agree with public shows of affection in general; and definately not while at work. Gay or straight.  I often see Ian_Giles working around the Chepstow area, and no matter how much I'd love to kiss him; I don't.  Professionalism is everything and you've got to look the part too.

The moderators have deleted MANY of my posts; and more often than not it's because I'm having a 'go' at the Scottish people here.  I often post stuff like they're 'half Geordie - half pig.  And you wouldn't have a Jock if it weren't for a Geordie going over the border and copulating with a pig'.

It's all part of the game, John.  Don't take it personally.  If they really didn't like you; they'd delete your account here!

Regards, (even if you have sent me nasty PMs)

Tosh

rosskesava

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2005, 12:18:18 am »
I've also had postings deleted.

Some of which I felt made good points window cleaning related.

Homophobic is to often the cry of gays who feel that others have to agree with them or be labelled 'homophobic' as if it is some magical right that makes the person absolutely right and in that statement, every one else bows down.

Others sometimes don't agree with me but I have to put up with it and there is no 'thing' I can shout for about it except that they don't agree. I think there should be a 'Rossophobic' rule but there isn't.

People are just people and some will be ok about about it and some won't. That's life.

You claim your posting was deleted because some old bint cancelled you because you were gay.

That is not the truth.

Your posting was about how some old couple were homophobic because they saw you and your partner kissing/cuddling, even though you were openly gay, because your partner had received some bad news and this old'er'ish couple cancelled you doing their cleaning and they were homophobic and ignorant etc.

And you wrote something about wanting or 'is there' a forum or a place for gay window cleaners.

To my mind, your posting was about someone or a couple being homophobic because they did not agree with you and unless others agree also, then they are also homophobic.

If you had posted 'how do I deal with this situation whilst window cleaning' then you would have had my support.

I work with someone who is also openly gay and his veiw about what you posted is that 'people are just people' and they will be just what they are. These things happen.

A customer cancelled us last week because we scared her dog.

Cheers






rosskesava

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2005, 12:23:23 am »
Anyway............

About the £42 000 ................ any update?

Londoner

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2005, 10:27:21 am »
The key thing in all of this is the fact that they phoned you first. That speaks bundles.
If they thought you had been at it they would have turned up unannounced ( quite possibly at 5am ) in order to catch you off guard.

UBA1

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2005, 11:05:50 am »
I've also had postings deleted.

Some of which I felt made good points window cleaning related.

Homophobic is to often the cry of gays who feel that others have to agree with them or be labelled 'homophobic' as if it is some magical right that makes the person absolutely right and in that statement, every one else bows down.

Others sometimes don't agree with me but I have to put up with it and there is no 'thing' I can shout for about it except that they don't agree. I think there should be a 'Rossophobic' rule but there isn't.

People are just people and some will be ok about about it and some won't. That's life.

You claim your posting was deleted because some old bint cancelled you because you were gay.

That is not the truth.

Your posting was about how some old couple were homophobic because they saw you and your partner kissing/cuddling, even though you were openly gay, because your partner had received some bad news and this old'er'ish couple cancelled you doing their cleaning and they were homophobic and ignorant etc.

And you wrote something about wanting or 'is there' a forum or a place for gay window cleaners.

To my mind, your posting was about someone or a couple being homophobic because they did not agree with you and unless others agree also, then they are also homophobic.

If you had posted 'how do I deal with this situation whilst window cleaning' then you would have had my support.

I work with someone who is also openly gay and his veiw about what you posted is that 'people are just people' and they will be just what they are. These things happen.

A customer cancelled us last week because we scared her dog.

Cheers







Agree with the above. Me personally, i would detest seeing a couple of gays kissing, especially if i had my kids in my house. I think there is a time and a place for it. Yes i am slightly homophobic, but 2 consenting adults may do what they like behind closed doors, but please not in my boat race or at work.

Anyways, i wish W.Chepstow all the best, chin up geezer.

regards

telboy

Re: I'm being investigated for stealing £42,000.00
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2005, 12:43:16 pm »
CONSIDERING THEY DONT BREED THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF THEM ???

TEL BOY ;)

ANGEL C/S