thanks to all who offerd sensible advice to me ,and to all the others,,,,what a bunch of jokers you all are,you should be on the stage are,,ha,,,ha,,,,ha,,,,,ha,,,grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr,,,,,kev (only messing) but to be honest fishing poles are cheap they are great to use,just don,t forget where you left the sections when you put them down,,,nothing worse then getting to the next job and realising you left a couple of sections at the last job,,kev