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NWH

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2009, 08:31:28 pm »
Is the clamp lever adjuster on the left or the right of the pole.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2009, 08:31:40 pm »
and although it is heavier than an sl-x, it really didn't feel like it was, it felt very um, i don't know what the right word is......balanced
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Captain Scarlet

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2009, 08:32:32 pm »
Is the clamp lever adjuster on the left or the right of the pole.

adjuster? you mean where you tighten it up? it was on the left
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

NWH

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2009, 08:40:19 pm »
Yes i did mean that,if it`s on the left it would be perfect for fingertip adjusting when it`s extended for lowering it quickly with the thumb.Is the base slim aswell my 24ft Facelift is a perfect width at the base.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2009, 08:45:14 pm »
35mm handle diameter, similar to the facelift fusion and sl-x
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

williamx

Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2009, 08:56:01 pm »
I also held it and extended and closed it a few times, the weight felt ok, but I would replace the brush head with one of alex's lightweight one.

The clamps ae released by the right hand, I would perfer the other hand but according  Craig to cannot you cannot swap them around.

I don't know what the sl-x is like but if the pole is like the sl2, then I would have to say that the Ionics one felt more ridgit to handle, I do get the feeling that the sl2 will break when I am using it, the Glyder felt more solid.

With a saving of £19.55 (including the vat) I think that Alex has got some real compertition in the Glyder, and with his stock problems I feel that he will lose many customers to ionics because they cannot wait for his stock to arrive.

Ionics also have brought out an anti-snag hose connector which I was impressed with and will be ordering some soon.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2009, 09:13:46 pm »
I also held it and extended and closed it a few times, the weight felt ok, but I would replace the brush head with one of alex's lightweight one.

The clamps ae released by the right hand, I would perfer the other hand but according  Craig to cannot you cannot swap them around.

I don't know what the sl-x is like but if the pole is like the sl2, then I would have to say that the Ionics one felt more ridgit to handle, I do get the feeling that the sl2 will break when I am using it, the Glyder felt more solid.

With a saving of £19.55 (including the vat) I think that Alex has got some real compertition in the Glyder, and with his stock problems I feel that he will lose many customers to ionics because they cannot wait for his stock to arrive.

Ionics also have brought out an anti-snag hose connector which I was impressed with and will be ordering some soon.


 :) It would be competition if the SL-X wasn't 5ft longer, shorter when closed and weighed over 300g lighter. For a lot of our (very patient) clients this alone makes the world of difference.

LOL Alex it really does sound like your worried about that pole,you don`t sound to worried about the Facelift fusion but the Glyder lol. ;D ;D ;D

The Glyder is obviously going to be popular, but I personally would probably go with the Fusion if I didn't have an SL-X

The anti-snag connector is clever, but can you imagine that hitting a window/car. I would rather stick with my Protecta-Ball™, does the same job and is a lot kinder to valuable objects.

I do have to say that they are learning though  ;D The thing I need to learn off of them is how to make as much money as they do. :)

williamx

Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2009, 09:34:48 pm »
I also held it and extended and closed it a few times, the weight felt ok, but I would replace the brush head with one of alex's lightweight one.

The clamps ae released by the right hand, I would perfer the other hand but according  Craig to cannot you cannot swap them around.

I don't know what the sl-x is like but if the pole is like the sl2, then I would have to say that the Ionics one felt more ridgit to handle, I do get the feeling that the sl2 will break when I am using it, the Glyder felt more solid.

With a saving of £19.55 (including the vat) I think that Alex has got some real compertition in the Glyder, and with his stock problems I feel that he will lose many customers to ionics because they cannot wait for his stock to arrive.

Ionics also have brought out an anti-snag hose connector which I was impressed with and will be ordering some soon.


 :) It would be competition if the SL-X wasn't 5ft longer, shorter when closed and weighed over 300g lighter. For a lot of our (very patient) clients this alone makes the world of difference.

LOL Alex it really does sound like your worried about that pole,you don`t sound to worried about the Facelift fusion but the Glyder lol. ;D ;D ;D

The Glyder is obviously going to be popular, but I personally would probably go with the Fusion if I didn't have an SL-X

The anti-snag connector is clever, but can you imagine that hitting a window/car. I would rather stick with my Protecta-Ball™, does the same job and is a lot kinder to valuable objects.

I do have to say that they are learning though  ;D The thing I need to learn off of them is how to make as much money as they do. :)

Have stock always in your warehouse. ;D

NWH

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2009, 09:37:22 pm »
The customer service that Gardiners supply is by far superior to ionic,i know for a fact that if i have a problem with anything they send me they will replace it the next day or whenever possible.When you talk to Gardiners they actually sound like they care and try there hardest to help,with ionic your lucky if they return your calls.I think i`ll stick with the supplier i trust.

Alex Gardiner

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2009, 09:38:53 pm »
Have stock always in your warehouse. ;D

Top tip  ;D

SherwoodCleaningSe

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2009, 09:49:14 pm »
So I take it then the clamps are levers on the side like the old universal poles.  If that is the case I'd be a little disappointed.  To even come close to the slx it would have to be extremely good. 

Captain Scarlet

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2009, 09:56:55 pm »
The Glyder cant really be compared to the latest sl-x, as its longer, shorter closed, and lighter, but in its own right, i think its great, and so is the fusion
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

[GQC] Tim

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2009, 09:58:08 pm »
The customer service that Gardiners supply is by far superior to ionic,i know for a fact that if i have a problem with anything they send me they will replace it the next day or whenever possible.When you talk to Gardiners they actually sound like they care and try there hardest to help,with ionic your lucky if they return your calls.I think i`ll stick with the supplier i trust.

Same here, I never ever have to worry.

suds window service

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #33 on: March 14, 2009, 10:00:08 pm »
You can view a list of there roadshow dates here

http://www.ionicsystems.com/english/news.html

scroll down the page
why is there no dates between Sheffield and edinburgh do they think us n.e boys can't afford one?

pure_genius

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2009, 08:19:20 am »
I think if you look again they are coming to Newcastle on Monday 23rd April  ;)

Russell oxley

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #35 on: March 15, 2009, 06:58:52 pm »
Hi Guys

Nice to hear the good reviews of the new Fusion poles. We are very excited about them.

Just to make everyone aware that the fusion is available in 3 sizes 25ft, 30ft and 35ft.

Check out the web site in the next few days for exact weights of the new poles.

They are now availble for pre order.

Russ

NWH

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #36 on: March 15, 2009, 09:16:02 pm »
I can`t see a lot of people being intersted in the Fusion to be honest if it`s a glass carbon mix it will be heavier than the 24ft carbon that you do already,you would have been better off reducing the price of the carbon poles and sold more of them.The Facelift carbon i have is a great great pole but the fiberglass facelift i have isn`t at all,they are miles apart in quality i`m afraid to say.I just hope the new Fusion is better than the Xtel Hybrid poles because they are the worst pole i`ve ever used out of all of them,some sites give a comparison with the 24ft Facelift carbon and it couldn`t be more further from the truth comparing it to the Hybrid pole of the same length,IMO the Hybrid pole gets absolutley knowhere near the Facelift on rigidity quality and weight it`s no different the a run of the mill Xtel.

Captain Scarlet

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #37 on: March 15, 2009, 09:22:13 pm »
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I just hope the new Fusion is better than the Xtel Hybrid poles because they are the worst pole i`ve ever used out of all of them

the fusion is a completely different pole, i agree the xtel hybrid is rubbish, this is a different finish and feel
Ffenest ( est 2007 ) is a fully insured premium quality window cleaning service based at Llandderfel near Bala. All our work is guaranteed, rain or shine, year round.

NWH

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #38 on: March 15, 2009, 09:25:01 pm »
Forget the finish the pole must do it`s job well,Hybrid poles are cheap as chips and don`t last 5 minutes.

Russell oxley

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Re: What is the Ionic's Glyder made of?
« Reply #39 on: March 15, 2009, 10:42:51 pm »
NWH
I'm glad you like your 24 carbon. And i agree with you that trying to imitate a hybrid would be a waste of time.

I think you are going to have to put the fusion in your hands to make a comparison between the fusion, the hybrid, glyder or slx.

The hybrid from extel is not what we have tried to imitate, copy or compete with.

The Fusion is a far better quality pole, more along the lines of the present carbon range. they are light rigid and durable. And don't forget that you can add and take away sections to make the pole any size from 5 ft to 35ft.