[geefree]

My right shoulder is killing, with pushing that pole up and down, and sideways every day,

someone said to me  " its as though you are going to the gymm
every day,   from morning until night".... but, only doing one exercise.... something has got to give, using the same repetitive movements day in , day out,

been told to do stretches before and after work, shoulder rolls,

and go for a deep tissue massage.... was even told a visit to a "chiropactor" would be helpful.

am i alone in dropping to bits ?....starting swapping hands today to give my right arm/shoulder a rest.

[mark dew]

I don't use this technique often but before i went wfp, i'm sure people on here were saying that the safest way to use the pole was to step forwards and backwards. Without moving arms up and down.

[geefree]

Hi,

Yes i have tried it, but i think its the whole thing... including downstairs windows.   

[prestigeclean]

go for the deep tissue massage i have one every fortnight and its worked wonders for me , try and find someone who can reccomend a practioner so you know there good regards alan

[AuRavelling79]

How old are you Gazza? What weight/type/length of pole do you use? How many hours a day? Kind of work?

Then Dr. Malc can help!

[Tosh]

You know you're getting old when you go to bed feeling fine and then wake up in the morning with a knee/shoulder/elbow/kneck/back* injury!

How does that happen?

*Delete where applicable.

[simbo]

same here! shoulder & elbow, makes me wonder when it comes to employing somebody as they could claim against you for repetetive strain injury. I worked in a shoe factory for 17 years and my joints are shot to pieces from it and only just turned 40, ive got another 25 years to work yet and wonder if i will be able to manage it.
worrying
simbo

[dai]

go for the deep tissue massage i have one every fortnight and its worked wonders for me , try and find someone who can reccomend a practioner so you know there good regards alan

I'm really lucky because my Mrs is brilliant at it, they are taught it very early in the Indonesian back and beyond, they have techniques you wouldn't dream of, a skilled practitioner can even terminate a pregnancy, although my Mrs Say's she would never do it.

[mikethechamois]

you aint wrong stan, wfp has made wcs soft

[geefree]

Stan, i was doing trad the other day.... and it was murder trying to swivel a squeegie over the glass.... my arm.... my elbow (must have come back stan, tennis elbow  )... and my shoulder... had sharp little muscle pains..... im off for a deep massage.cheers prestigeclean ...

Malc, im 6ft slim.. n trim... always kept fit, and im 40 odd lol

i mainly use the 21ft extel... for both....

but today i went back to the super light fishing pole for a while.

i work 7 hours a day.

[Tosh]

you aint wrong stan, wfp has made wcs soft

There's nothing soft about using an easier, safer, and qucker method to clean windows!  You're not 'hard' 'cos you routinely use a ladder.

Most of the guys here started off using ladders, some of them when I was still in nappies!

[mikethechamois]

i meant he should swop back,i dont get any pains, apart from the hernia im suffering with 

same as you stan. no hernia though,  up and down ladders all day no aches or pains whatso ever

[trevor perry]

My right shoulder is killing, with pushing that pole up and down, and sideways every day,

someone said to me  " its as though you are going to the gymm
every day,   from morning until night".... but, only doing one exercise.... something has got to give, using the same repetitive movements day in , day out,

been told to do stretches before and after work, shoulder rolls,

and go for a deep tissue massage.... was even told a visit to a "chiropactor" would be helpful.

am i alone in dropping to bits ?....starting swapping hands today to give my right arm/shoulder a rest.

why do people think that if you use your shoulders alot they will wear out afterall arent your shoulder joints made of the same stuff as ankle joints and no docter tells you you shouldnt walk to far or else your ankles will get repetitive strain injury.
  the pain is either caused by lifting at an unatural angle or you need to build up certain muscles i would strongly recomend looking at www.fitness4x4.com on the about us page there is a video of just how good your shoulder muscles can become with the right training.

  

[geefree]

So did i ...of course ,, i could not afford wfp.... so i learnt how to trad.... i am really glad i did.... it will always be used in my opinion, at some point....

i mean, try cleaning the inside of a car show room ,wfp way....

but i love wfp too.... it just wears my shoulder away.

[geefree]

My right shoulder is killing, with pushing that pole up and down, and sideways every day,

someone said to me  " its as though you are going to the gymm
every day,   from morning until night".... but, only doing one exercise.... something has got to give, using the same repetitive movements day in , day out,

been told to do stretches before and after work, shoulder rolls,

and go for a deep tissue massage.... was even told a visit to a "chiropactor" would be helpful.

am i alone in dropping to bits ?....starting swapping hands today to give my right arm/shoulder a rest.

why do people think that if you use your shoulders alot they will wear out afterall arent your shoulder joints made of the same stuff as ankle joints and no docter tells you you shouldnt walk to far or else your ankles will get repetitive strain injury.
  the pain is either caused by lifting at an unatural angle or you need to build up certain muscles i would strongly recomend looking at www.fitness4x4.com on the about us page there is a video of just how good your shoulder muscles can become with the right training.

 

thanks for that. i have always kept fit with football and going to the gym, my arms and shoulders are strong.... i really suspect its muscular pain,... same muscle contracting all day , will eventually strain i think.

[trevor perry]

My right shoulder is killing, with pushing that pole up and down, and sideways every day,

someone said to me  " its as though you are going to the gymm
every day,   from morning until night".... but, only doing one exercise.... something has got to give, using the same repetitive movements day in , day out,

been told to do stretches before and after work, shoulder rolls,

and go for a deep tissue massage.... was even told a visit to a "chiropactor" would be helpful.

am i alone in dropping to bits ?....starting swapping hands today to give my right arm/shoulder a rest.

why do people think that if you use your shoulders alot they will wear out afterall arent your shoulder joints made of the same stuff as ankle joints and no docter tells you you shouldnt walk to far or else your ankles will get repetitive strain injury.
  the pain is either caused by lifting at an unatural angle or you need to build up certain muscles i would strongly recomend looking at www.fitness4x4.com on the about us page there is a video of just how good your shoulder muscles can become with the right training.

 

thanks for that. i have always kept fit with football and going to the gym, my arms and shoulders are strong.... i really suspect its muscular pain,... same muscle contracting all day , will eventually strain i think.

your shoulders may be strong but may not be trained for endurance as an example there are many bodybuilders who undoubtably have strong legs yet only a few of them would be able to run a marathon, the same is true for the upper body and if you can find the balance between both strentgh and endurance then that is when you can manage the tasks that dragon achieves in his video and works brilliantly in our job.

[Chris B]

Sure its not your age gaz?

 

[Jeff Brimble]

Gaz, try resting it over the weekend by taking enough Ibuferen on a friday  and continue till monday morning to help relax it over the weekend. Not all week just at w/ends. Honeygar will help take the inflamation out.
Oh and accupunture helps.

[AuRavelling79]

OK Gazza I'm nearly ten years older than you - 6ft and prolly a stone overweight at 13st 10lb.

When I was on ladders it was my knees that hurt and my squeegee wrist.

I lost a couple of stones and that certainly helped.

When I went Wfp I had the infamous unger ali pole with the twist lock sections and my hands and wrists really started to hurt. I went fishing pole two years ago and I have no more probs.

So for me a lighter pole with pushfit sections worked.

Alternate between different poles to give certain muscles a break.

My fee is one English pint of bitter!

[elite mike]

hi gaz

i have allways taken cod liver oil capsules,

and eat plenty of sardines ,mackrel  salmon

at least 3 or four times a week <helps if you like fish>

also a bit of light weight training

perhaps you need to go back to your zensoflex