[R W C]

When i was told the price they where paying for one these jobs £12 1 large pane and a door i said id of done the inside too every other clean for that price, thats when they said its mine if i want it.

Chris

[sageorgeta]

Just go for it,dont listen to the dogooders,they dont pay your bills and support your family.You have already justified being offered the work by saying that you will do the insides,so you are offering a better service already than the other wc....

Take what you can get,whichever way you can get it...if like others say you get stiffed every now and again,dont moan about it...just put it down to business.

[kenaltobelli]

what goes around comes around or something like that these jobs come up.
and next min your history as well if hes doing a good job leave him be.
not worth hassel thers loads of glass out there to clean can you realy do with muppets
hiring and firing for no real reason

[Ian_Giles]

When i was told the price they where paying for one these jobs £12 1 large pane and a door i said id of done the inside too every other clean for that price, thats when they said its mine if i want it.

Chris

On the above evidence you got the job (or will have if you take it on) on business merit, the other window cleaner is absolutely ripping off the customer...£12.00 for 2 panes of glass?
You're having a laugh! He deserves to lose it.

Just go for it,dont listen to the dogooders,they dont pay your bills and support your family.You have already justified being offered the work by saying that you will do the insides,so you are offering a better service already than the other wc....

Take what you can get,whichever way you can get it...if like others say you get stiffed every now and again,dont moan about it...just put it down to business.

Got to disagree with you here, lots of reasons not to cynically dump on a competitor, I totally agree  with competition, but you take on work in a sneaky fashion you are going to come up against a great deal of resentment, at the first opportunity the other guy is going to dump on you whenever and however possible.
Business is not a popularity contest, if you are invited to submit a quote then you do so, but when you operate with the business ethics of a shark your reputation will spread, no one will trust you because they know you will shaft them the moment you get the chance.

Ian

[sageorgeta]

Ian,who is going to know you will shaft them...? another window cleaner...?

I would not worry one bit about what other wc's think,as i stand by my statements that business is business.
Do you think that all major businesses got to where they are by being the nice guy,of course not,they would be the first ones to tread on your toes.
If you had the chance of taking work from a large company would you not get pleasure in taking it?I would and a lot of others would as well...yet we would still be taking work from someone.....
Go and ask some of the big boys about their consciences when it comes to getting work.
Each to their own,and if it makes you feel like you have done the right thing then good on you,but i like to get what i can if i want it and i dont care if it does come back around...to me that is part of business.

[Ian_Giles]

Fortunately around here most of us operate with a good business ethic, there are a couple (Tosh and Squeaky in particular) who I trust enough to caretake my round (the shops at least) and I know they are not going to leap in and try to take the work from under my nose, likewise there is another guy who gets me to look after some of his work when he goes away.
There are also a couple with the ethics of a shark, they have earned the distrust of most who come across them, they'll undercut you and take work off you in whatever way they can...
Are they big, successful entrepenaurs? Are they hell! The one in particular I dislike with a vengence, the other is a ...well, on here I'm polite so I won't say!
Neither earn as much as I do and the one has been going as long as I have.

I get on well with my competitors and I'll compete as hard as I can for the same work too.
If I scratch their backs, they will return the favour, but if one of them dived in and took one of my good accounts off me purely on the basis that their mate was the manager of the shop...well what do you think would happen?
All trust gone, all friendship gone and I'd be poised to dump on them at the very first opportunity, just as they would on me if the postions were reversed.
I've no doubt the likes of Alan Sugar are utterly ruthless in business, but they operate in a very different league to us, people are just pawns to them.
Small people like us need to operate in a different way, far better to earn the trust and respect of customers AND competitors..it's a reputation that gets you far more work at a better price than the stab-in-the-back-get-the-work-at-any-cost brigade....

[sageorgeta]

Ian....your views are respected but not supported by me.
Each to their own.

[R W C]

cor what have I started  :

[Ian_Giles]

cor what have I started  :

A good discussion and exchange of viewpoints!
No ranting or slagging, which is how debate should be

Ian

[R W C]

Just how the forum should be 

[R W C]

thing is Chris you arnt going to clean them are you 

im going to get you too do them for me stan and pay you £1.70