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Pole 2 Pole

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2009, 07:29:48 am »
Tell them you work that area ever 4th Monday.......then turn up every 4th Tuesday  ;D Sorted  ;)

d s windowcleaning

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2009, 08:19:16 am »
my pennies worth,if it was going to kick off he wouild have told you there and then,why ask you quistions then do it,that doesnt make sence,to be on the safe side,take someone with you for a while if you can.
when he was asking me the questions mate he was on is own collecting but normally theres 4 of them , a few years ago this same guy kicked the bottom of another cleaners ladders while he was up it ( at least i dont use a ladder ) hes  thrown a tin of paint over a car that belonged the lad he knocked of the ladder . it just shows what he will get up to . see the round he dos he bought it for £4000 and he lost a lot of the work im doing houses he bought but they are my family and friends , they didnt like this guy but they gave him a chance when he started he started losing them and i was picking them up , ive got about £600 worth of the work he bought and he aint happy .
where theres muck theres money

Pole 2 Pole

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2009, 08:31:26 am »
Is that £600 a month or a year Dave? I think there is some kinda lesson to be learned here for anyone "buying" a round. It in no way gurantees the work you buy will last a month,2 months, a year.......I can see both sides to this coin though,altough this fella does sound like the kinda bloke ya don't wanna get on the wrong side of. or have him doin ya windows,come to that. Tricky one this...........jack in doin ya friends n family's houses or bite the bullet........have a pleasant word in his shell and hope for the best.

Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2009, 08:35:40 am »
cant get finger prints off house bricks :o
fingers prints maybe not dna they defo can. standing up to them if they start or just carry on as normal. I had that on an estate in cambridge but they realised I was not going away, most guys now speak to me, he may have just been interested and trying to get on with you. Not a nice feeling all the same.

henryfitz

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2009, 09:26:56 am »
If i was you i would ask him if he wanted my wfp shoved up his ass ,and if he got smart id kick him in the b***lks and when he was rolling about on the floor reverse my van over him!!! Problem sorted 8)

Pole 2 Pole

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2009, 12:25:38 pm »
That oughta do it  ::)

jonnypneumonic

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2009, 01:40:38 pm »

Possibly they have only just realised your on what they consider their patch. If you've said you've been at it for years and have never even came across each other before, possibly they'll just walk away. They might have thought you were a new invader - lol - hell bent on cause them hassle?

If the worst does come to the worst, you go to your local rag and give them the story. A nice centre spread (no nudes - lol) detailing how these thugs beat-up an innocent w/c as he went about his business can only serve to lose them the bulk of their trade and maybe you'll even end-up benefiting.

Personally i'd be in my trainers for the next few weeks, just in case you need to make a quick getaway - lol.

Good luck with it; i hate this kind of awkward situations.


JP.
Location:  Sunny Nairn (lol), Inverness-shire, Highlands of Scotland.

Always keen to accept constructive advice on setting-up / working in the W/C business.

s.w.c

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2009, 07:42:27 pm »

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fingers prints maybe not dna they defo can.
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most wear gloves while wfp.      officer he came up to me and started threatening me verbally and his body action where very aggressive i started to be in fear of my safety he came closer as it looked like he was going to attack me , so i had to use necessary force to repel him so i pushed him as hard as possible away from me he must of tripped over something and fell when he didn't move i tried to see whats wrong i see where he fell and there was a brick , he had split his head open on so i phoned for ambulance,  in any court of law that is called self defence , what is necessary force if the person is acting so crazy what force is needed to deal with the person????, if worde3d correctly the law is easy this also can apply to help in someone else as you thought they was in fear of there own safety . self defence is allowed providing you know what your talking about, when you are questioned, but knowing all this takes time,

d s windowcleaning

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2009, 08:09:34 pm »
Is that £600 a month or a year Dave? I think there is some kinda lesson to be learned here for anyone "buying" a round. It in no way gurantees the work you buy will last a month,2 months, a year.......I can see both sides to this coin though,altough this fella does sound like the kinda bloke ya don't wanna get on the wrong side of. or have him doin ya windows,come to that. Tricky one this...........jack in doin ya friends n family's houses or bite the bullet........have a pleasant word in his shell and hope for the best.
its £600 per month mate , if tony macmac came on he would tell you athersley is a really big area im born and bred there and know just about everyone .
if i really wanted i could pick up all or as many houses as i wanted but ive stuck to family and really close friends .
where theres muck theres money

ronnie paton

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2009, 08:14:35 pm »

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fingers prints maybe not dna they defo can.
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most wear gloves while wfp. officer he came up to me and started threatening me verbally and his body action where very aggressive i started to be in fear of my safety he came closer as it looked like he was going to attack me , so i had to use necessary force to repel him so i pushed him as hard as possible away from me he must of tripped over something and fell when he didn't move i tried to see whats wrong i see where he fell and there was a brick , he had split his head open on so i phoned for ambulance, in any court of law that is called self defence , what is necessary force if the person is acting so crazy what force is needed to deal with the person????, if worde3d correctly the law is easy this also can apply to help in someone else as you thought they was in fear of there own safety . self defence is allowed providing you know what your talking about, when you are questioned, but knowing all this takes time,

really so you think you would get away with it by WORDING it right hahaha are you for real

d s windowcleaning

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2009, 08:27:56 pm »
lets not argue lets reflect on what pole 2 pole said , how would you feel if you bought a round and lost £600 worth of work .
where theres muck theres money

s.w.c

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2009, 08:43:33 pm »


really so you think you would get away with it by WORDING it right hahaha are you for real
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yes i do and know it can be done, Ive got away with it lots of times when working the doors and off its just knowing the law system and i have over 14years experience of it, i guess for those not like me they wouldn't understand and that's fine we all have different backgrounds, just because i wasn't spoon fed and had a different walk of life from you , this doesn't mean I'm wrong and you know it all, i was just stating a fact if worded correctly and accidents happen and the reason if any of my dna was on the brick is because i moved him to see whats wrong and called the ambulance, you cant say yes i lumped him with the brick and think your gonna get away with it now can you.

s.w.c

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #32 on: January 26, 2009, 08:48:37 pm »
its like if a burglar is in your house after breaking in you can get a bat and as long as its below the waist you can get away with it, so if you break his legs you was only trying to stop the armed burglar from getting away , but above the waist like head shots you will get into trouble the will class this a malicious wounding, so remember if you do find a rat in your house below the waist,

ronnie paton

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #33 on: January 26, 2009, 09:06:29 pm »
spoon fed mmmmmmmmmm i too have experienced on both occasions i really did defend my self but i got charged so maybe i too have experience and that is to avoid doing anything like that at all cost, if you have to defend your self its doesnt mean you will be believed.

s.w.c

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #34 on: January 26, 2009, 09:19:02 pm »
spoon fed mmmmmmmmmm i too have experienced on both occasions i really did defend my self but i got charged so maybe i too have experience and that is to avoid doing anything like that at all cost, if you have to defend your self its doesnt mean you will be believed.


i don't know how long ago you got charged, i don't know what happened in your case but if the little red monster came out and the full rage the brain don't think as well as a calm mind, only you know what happened , but the way the law is worded it is more than possible to get away with it but you got to know what your doing, i also have been charged a few times but in those cases the rage took control and that was that, but if calm cool headed i know how to twist the system, if i can stay calm,   as for the word spoon fed was a term i used as i don't know who you are or your walk of life but by use in those words gets a reaction and then i have a clue of your walk of life how big of a clue depends on how you answer. there is a old say a dish is best served up cold rather than hot. so cool calm wins over hot headed,

ronnie paton

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2009, 09:22:02 pm »
good advice and some thing i will try take up, its counts for everything in life, business, fighting for contact of children driving, ect ect

but i think were getting of topic so ill leave it there but thanks for the advice

macmac

Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2009, 09:30:26 pm »
Is that £600 a month or a year Dave? I think there is some kinda lesson to be learned here for anyone "buying" a round. It in no way gurantees the work you buy will last a month,2 months, a year.......I can see both sides to this coin though,altough this fella does sound like the kinda bloke ya don't wanna get on the wrong side of. or have him doin ya windows,come to that. Tricky one this...........jack in doin ya friends n family's houses or bite the bullet........have a pleasant word in his shell and hope for the best.
its £600 per month mate , if tony macmac came on he would tell you athersley is a really big area im born and bred there and know just about everyone .
if i really wanted i could pick up all or as many houses as i wanted but ive stuck to family and really close friends .

Yeah it's big with loads of compact housing estates.

It's a tough one Dave, at least it's your area so that should give you some feeling of security, where are these guys from?
If you feel realy threatened you could always buy a baseball bat (argos/sports shop) & keep it in the van. I had to do this once (long time ago) BUT make sure you buy a baseball too to keep with it, this way it's classed as sporting equipment (as you now play baseball) & not an offensive weapon! ;)

Tony

s.w.c

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2009, 09:33:07 pm »
that is true ronnie, i wasn't trying to get off topic, because it can be relevant what we are talking about because depending on the type of chap he is dealing with it can be relevant, i think he said pushed some one off a ladder and through some paint over his car, sounds like a right little charmer and the only way these type will understand is with methods they know, this is a unfortunate fact.

Pole 2 Pole

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Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2009, 09:58:29 pm »
Is that £600 a month or a year Dave? I think there is some kinda lesson to be learned here for anyone "buying" a round. It in no way gurantees the work you buy will last a month,2 months, a year.......I can see both sides to this coin though,altough this fella does sound like the kinda bloke ya don't wanna get on the wrong side of. or have him doin ya windows,come to that. Tricky one this...........jack in doin ya friends n family's houses or bite the bullet........have a pleasant word in his shell and hope for the best.
its £600 per month mate , if tony macmac came on he would tell you athersley is a really big area im born and bred there and know just about everyone .
if i really wanted i could pick up all or as many houses as i wanted but ive stuck to family and really close friends .

Yeah it's big with loads of compact housing estates.

It's a tough one Dave, at least it's your area so that should give you some feeling of security, where are these guys from?
If you feel realy threatened you could always buy a baseball bat (argos/sports shop) & keep it in the van. I had to do this once (long time ago) BUT make sure you buy a baseball too to keep with it, this way it's classed as sporting equipment (as you now play baseball) & not an offensive weapon! ;)

Tony
That reminds me............I must go buy some tees tommorow to go with my 9 iron  ;D

macmac

Re: can see trouble coming my way
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2009, 10:13:01 pm »
Is that £600 a month or a year Dave? I think there is some kinda lesson to be learned here for anyone "buying" a round. It in no way gurantees the work you buy will last a month,2 months, a year.......I can see both sides to this coin though,altough this fella does sound like the kinda bloke ya don't wanna get on the wrong side of. or have him doin ya windows,come to that. Tricky one this...........jack in doin ya friends n family's houses or bite the bullet........have a pleasant word in his shell and hope for the best.
its £600 per month mate , if tony macmac came on he would tell you athersley is a really big area im born and bred there and know just about everyone .
if i really wanted i could pick up all or as many houses as i wanted but ive stuck to family and really close friends .

Yeah it's big with loads of compact housing estates.

It's a tough one Dave, at least it's your area so that should give you some feeling of security, where are these guys from?
If you feel realy threatened you could always buy a baseball bat (argos/sports shop) & keep it in the van. I had to do this once (long time ago) BUT make sure you buy a baseball too to keep with it, this way it's classed as sporting equipment (as you now play baseball) & not an offensive weapon! ;)

Tony
That reminds me............I must go buy some tees tommorow to go with my 9 iron  ;D

 ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, it's true, I got pulled over & the cop spotted the bat in the car, anyway, to cut a long story short, when he realised I wasn't a yob he told me I needed to buy a ball & why! ;)

Tony