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L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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`Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« on: January 17, 2009, 06:18:52 am »
I`m having to start using my 40 foot plus height fishing pole `set-up`
More these days.I`m starting to find that I assume because of the weight
Of the sections nearer to the ground,they are starting to `stick and jam`.
I  can`t remove em`at all sometimes.I think I`ve read somewhere that ya
Have to tape the sections to stop that.Can members who experience this
Explain how they tape their sections,and also after taping do they still fit
Inside each other during transit and storage.
Thanks for help and advice on this subject.


Lewis Doubtfire  Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )
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ftp

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 08:06:47 am »
Just put the sections together, then when you have a good fit wrap a few turns of insulation tape around the male section up to the join to stop the sections closing any tighter. I also make collars with tape around the outside of every base to protect them from chipping this also stops them sliding inside each other too far during storage.
You might find that the tape on the joins impeeds a couple of the nearly straight bigger sections from storing inside each other. Have a play and you'll soon see what i mean.
Oh and another top tip - keep some rubber gloves in the van and wear these when you get a jammed pole - they grip better than hands so you don't need to squeeze so tight.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 09:29:00 am »
As long as you have butt wrapped the pole section base as above a coating of monthly vaseline will help. The butt wrap collar/protector helps stop the base pole  tip from exploding the upper base section outwards under pressure, bit like the old cartoons of an exploding barell when loosing its ring collars. Both Manuf use these now but they stick out and annoy your palms, I prefer built up tape which has a smoother slide between your hands. - another reason for a pole stop wrap at the joint, - to make it stronger.

AuRavelling79

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 09:43:25 am »
Another tip to free a stuck joint is to wrap gaffer tape around each section when it happens as follows:-

Take about two feet of gaffer tape and fold it in half lengthways then stick it to the pole but with half folded back so that you have a sticky side out too. This gives you much better grip.

Alternatively buy a roll of double-sided carpet tape and use that.

On domestic use this sticking rarely happens but at third floor or gutter cleans where you compress the joints more then it can.

I have even had the embarrassment (before taking the above measures) of having two sections stuck together and asking a custy and his wife to get on one end and me on the other to free them!
It's a game of three halves!

ftp

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 09:45:58 am »
Me too had to drive home with mine tied on the roof with rags. I was in a pretty black mood when i got home.  :)

Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2009, 09:49:37 am »
Guaranteed to turn he men into wimps, wrists turn to jelly and the Bxxxy poles are still fused.  ;D If they are extremely fused Heat and Cold will eventually work.

matt

Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2009, 10:09:02 am »
ref the stuck joints

if you use the tape stops, you should have them stick

Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2009, 10:45:27 am »
ref the stuck joints

if you use the tape stops, you should have them stick
Do'nt  you mean they will not stick  :)

matt

Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2009, 10:49:36 am »
ref the stuck joints

if you use the tape stops, you should have them stick
Do'nt  you mean they will not stick  :)

yes , i meant shouldnt

s.w.c

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2009, 07:42:27 pm »
also if you get some wet an dry paper rub down the joint section to a dull mat finish this also helps them to stop sticking. then for extra protection as jeff said use tape as the buffer.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2009, 07:45:55 pm »
Thats cracking term to explain the ring of tape and what it does, "Buffer"  simple  ;)

s.w.c

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2009, 08:29:17 pm »
i thought so, so lads that are new to modular pole make sure you use the BUFFER method. ;D

L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2009, 07:48:08 am »
Do you fellās keep the tape on all the time on the sections?
When ya drop down on heights say 3 story to 2 story etc.
Via Jeff Brimbles `magic knot`? Thanks.


Lewis  Doubtfire Gleem Clean ( The Blade Runner )
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2009, 10:12:38 am »
Yes. The buffer is built up at the point where the joint is on each section, its not over the joint. It stays there semi permanately, you may need to move it 1/2" downwards in a year or two as the pole wears. Want a pic ?

L.Doubtfire - The Blade Runner

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2009, 11:07:04 am »
If ya would Jeff,yes,thanks.I just can`t quite `get my head around`.
The part whereby storing in transit etc.When I`ve had sections
Repaired at my fishing pole supply place,that particular section
Won`t fit inside the others and I`ve to carry it separate,which I find
Can be a `pain`.( Keep forgetting it etc.)


Lewis  Doubtfire  Gleem  Clean  ( The Blade Runner )
L. Doubtfire
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Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2009, 11:52:05 am »
Immagine a roll of tape slid up the base section till it touches the joint, now immagine that roll is say 1/8th thickness, thats what your trying to achieve.
Whether it will stack/dovetail inside  internally after having the 1/8th thickness added near the tip will depend on the taper of the pole. You might get away with 1/16th, just something you will have to experiement with. All the sections of the F16 stack but one of the Emporium wont. pic to follow later.
Yeh I am always leaving sections behind  ;D but am getting more methodical lateley when packing up.

Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2009, 02:59:20 pm »

bottom pic is of a wrap of blue tape just before it pushes tight into the base of an extension section.
 Middle is the poles stacked inside each other with butt protection and also stops the poles going too far into the "shell" of poles making them easier to take out.
Top is the tip of a Gangster. TIP   8)  The blue bands are simple antifriction bands to prevent pole wear, better to have the cheap pvc tape wear than the carbon fibre itself. The white bands are the buffers.
Hope the pics help !


s.w.c

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2009, 03:02:18 pm »
i just done some pics.

s.w.c

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2009, 03:03:40 pm »
some more inc a half butt section

Jeff Brimble

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Re: `Sticking`Fishing Pole Sections Advice
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2009, 03:06:14 pm »
Snap SWC  ;D (only took me 2 hours)  8)