[ianhannaford]

it is good. it doesn't do everything i need but compared to wcp for the money you can't argue if wcp had the features i wanted i would buy it. or george for that matter

Hi Steve,

The feature of hiding details on the worksheet is on my list of things to do and will be available in the near future. As with any software it takes time to design, develop, test and release as well as trying to include everybody elses requests.

Ian

there are a few other details to ian but once thats on there i'll have a more serious look at WCP

Sure Steve,

Send me an email with other details so that I can make sure they are included.

Thanks

Ian

[Steve CM]

ok no probs

[Moderator David@stives]

The price of George for what you get is very cheap, I would also pay a yearly fee for upgrades, just like you do for Norton, etc.

I would hate for George to just stop being upgraded, especially when you know Windows can make programs obsolete, without development when new operating systems get released.

[Feen]

I have one query about the new version. Hope you read this Paul. I have 2 small shops in my job list. I price them at £0 weekly. I like them in my list so I see them in the day's jobs. I have another listing for them every 4 weeks, which is when I get paid. Now I can't mark the £0 jobs as "paid".

[Clive McDonald]

There was mention of this upgrade being a change in structure necessary for some 'big things to come'.

I hope that one of the big things to come is a report that gives you the weeky cash coming in figure. I know that the word cash has two meanings, and can simply mean payments. What I am asking for is a stand alone weekly amount of cash that I actually recieve. That is what the tax man likes to see, he couldn't give a hoot about what goes in the bank because that is accounted for, so cheques and credit transfer don't really matter.

What he likes to see is a cash in hand figure that is arrived at by adding last weeks cash in hand and deducting any drawings and any expenses that were paid for in cash.

I don't expect george to do these sums for me, taking off expenses starts to get a bit complex. If george could just kick up a weekly cash (as in actual cash) recieved figure that would be great.

Let me give you an example. Say I pay my mortgage and a lot of my bills out of my seperate personal account using money transfered over from my business account and clearly labeled as drawings, that's fine, but then the tax man says what money do use to live on you never draw any money out of the bank?

I say that I take £200 in cash as drawings every week.

He says okay, but show me where this cash comes from?

Thats why we need the cash figure.

Thanks (no pressure)

[George Systems]

Hi

The daily Payments Received list shows you the actual Cash - but I think you need an accounting system to give you the level of detail you are asking for.

The Finance Report shows your cashflow - I think that's what the taxman is really interested in.

Paul

[Clive McDonald]

don't confuse cashflow with cash.

[George Systems]

Hi

It's cashflow the taxman is interested in.

I do know the difference - I was an accountant for a long time...

Paul

[Feen]

Paul, did you read my query?

[rosskesava]

I also think George is remarkable value for money. I've been using it for about 3 (or is it 4?) years now without a single problem and it's dead simple to use.

Like Dave St Seagull with his clapped out old Porshe, I would also pay yearly for any upgrades.

Cheers

[George Systems]

Hi

I suppose we could analyse the income and expenses on the Finance Report by payment method - but I don't really see the point.

The taxman knows what percentage of your income is needed to maintain your lifestyle. He's not really interested in how it's paid.

Paul

[Moderator David@stives]

Hi Ross

How you doing , long time no hear.

Discount

For now, i think you will have to add up the daily cash summaries for your cash figure, it would be nice to have weekly, but i suppose daily is even better ?

maybe an export facility to a stand alone utility is the way forward, after all if you were paper accounting you would have a separate cash book.

No matter which way, it is a massive or should i say a MASSIVE improvement to what we had.

PAul/ George

Even if it wasnt needed it would be nice to have in a report of some kind at the end of the year

[George Systems]

Paul, did you read my query?

Hi Feen

I don't really understand the question - please contact me direct at our "users@" address.

Paul

[Clive McDonald]

I'm trying not to get on my high horse about this, it's aggravating when you know you are right.

Thanks Dave, yes I agree, maybe to keep good records I need to print both the work done and the payment sheet off every day and then add the cash up for a weekly figure. It's just such a lot of printing off and bother though when a computer and a programme on it could be designed very easily to do this.

I recognise that I will have to deduct my own expenses and cash drawings to arrive at the cash in hand continuity figure that the tax man wants to see, it's just that I was hoping to drop the hint that the provision of this figure would be the biggest single, and a massive selling point- for either programme- for many users.

Just because many don't know what I'm blathering on about or see the relevance don't think that this isn't important.

[George Systems]

Hi

Ok - I just uploaded a modified version of V3.69X4.

The Finance Report now shows an analysis of payments received by payment method.

Is that what you want?

Paul

[Roy Harding]

Thanks Paul

When I first looked I could not see it

However it is there bottom left, for anyone else whos blind like me.


Roy

[ianhannaford]

Hi Discount,

I would be interested to know if its the amount of cash received (daily, weekly or monthly) that you wanted. I have uploaded a sample of a report from wcp that breaks down the amount of money you received by payment method.

Can you let me know if this would meet your requirements.

Thanks

Ian

[Moderator David@stives]

I agree with Discount , It is good practice  to show cash in hand at any given time.

Wether it is essential for the tax man i couldnt tell you, but he would see it as good practice too

[Moderator David@stives]

Cash in hand accounting is acceptable and to me is essential.

2 sets of books , never, if you look at the tax website about cash in hand that is what they advise

[stoner]

been following thread with interest, as i downloaded trial version of george about a year ago and was very impressed with the programme.i bought a palm and set it up on trial,it looked the buisness untill i took it outside on a brightish day ,only to find that i couldn't read the screen because of the glare/reflection.this was really disapointing because it looked to be a cracking programme.anyone else experience the same problem?or offer a soloution.