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drive surgeon

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is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« on: October 31, 2008, 08:21:51 pm »
hi guys do you think it is worth buying a gutter vac like omni pole? i mainly do pressure washing but wanted more winter work? anyone got one and doing well out of this? :) thanks

drive surgeon

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2008, 09:13:55 pm »
does anyone use one and do well? :o :'(

lovewindows

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2008, 04:21:42 pm »
where are you  based surgeon ? cause i was thinking the same thing
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

gordonswindows

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2008, 04:24:56 pm »
yes yes and yes

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lovewindows

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2008, 04:50:51 pm »
Your website link isn't working Gordon
dont look who's to blame, look how to fix it. anon

Glyn H

Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2008, 04:58:36 pm »

I think this answers the question www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=64136.0

ronnie paton

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2008, 05:38:42 pm »
well make sure you see it in action which may be difficult if your not from down south, i had it on good authority from glyn h that he would sort out for some one to show me the machine in action up north but 2 months later and still nothing.

if im going to spend around2-3k i want to see this thing is has good has they say but if your up north they wont travel................a abit of a joke i think!!

clinton

Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2008, 05:55:31 pm »
Think there is a guy who has the set up in manchester.

 

ftp

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2008, 07:35:18 pm »
well make sure you see it in action which may be difficult if your not from down south, i had it on good authority from glyn h that he would sort out for some one to show me the machine in action up north but 2 months later and still nothing.

if im going to spend around2-3k i want to see this thing is has good has they say but if your up north they wont travel................a abit of a joke i think!!

Just say you are going to build your own you'll get plenty of dialogue then.  ;)

ftp

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2008, 07:49:42 pm »
In response to the original question then i would say yes it's worth getting one if only to stop you clambering up and down ladders. They are pretty easy to use and judging by some of the posts on here can open up some very lucrative work. It's a bit like the wfp debate over traditional methods. Choice is yours and whether you think there is enough demand in your area, and do you have enough room to carry it all about plus generator?

Pittmonkey

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2008, 09:16:42 pm »
Maybe a few of us in the NW could arrange a demo with Glyn, Myself, Ronnie P, Chris Archer and Mick Hay are all interested and probably more, so maybe worth a day up north Glyn ?
(And we'll let you try a Black Pudding ;D)

Wayne
'Success is buried in the garden of failure'

ronnie paton

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2008, 09:47:26 pm »
Wayne maybe we could all put too and share the use of one, im sure we could all come to an agreement, less outlay and we can offer this very good service.

Glyn H

Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 10:06:54 pm »
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if im going to spend around2-3k i want to see this thing is has good has they say but if your up north they wont travel................a abit of a joke i think

To be totally honest we are very busy building wfp, Steam cleaning and pressure washer van mounts as well as gutter cleaning systems and we carry out several demos for prospective customers every day of the week at our workshops, customers travel from all over the UK and Ireland and very often from European Countries.
If we were to travel all over the Uk which we are often asked to do  then we would need to be selling two guttervac systems a day from demos to cover vehicle, fuel, labour,hotel etc.costs (one sale wouldnt cover the costs) and m,ake a profit and as I am now in my mid 50s I dont want to be doing this, the alternative is we take on a salesman who would then pressurise people to buy which is not a method I would like for my company.
For the first three years making systems we used to travel all over  to carry out demos, but often we would turn up and be expected to do the whole wfp job, in one case we cleaned a masive residential care home  in the North East  near the Scottish borders- we  didnt hear any thing for six months when we were asked if we could come and do a demo again at the same residential care home - so that was the end of us traveling.

Be fair would you travel several hundred miles each way to provide a window cleaning  demo and quote even if the job was worth a thousand pounds

paulscotney

Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2008, 10:21:55 pm »
I just took a day off work, got the train from sunny Birmingham down to London. Got a taxi from the local station  to Omnipole for a fiver.

Had the demo, bit of lunch  and went home on the train.

Thought about it and bought an Omnivac a couple of weeks later.

Manchester is only about another hour at most on the train to London. If you are thinking of spending a lot of money, why not just have a day off and get the train down there.

Kevin R

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2008, 11:08:08 pm »
Well I meant to make a comment earlier but I am afraid I have been cleaning gutters for the last 6 days straight - all commercial and much more to do next week too. 

Is buying a gutter vac worth it? was the original question and I would have to say it defiantly has been one of my better purchases - in fact most of my commercial window cleaning work is "farmed out" until I decide what to do next. My company is about to expand but "how" is the bit Im still sorting. The growth is because of the Omnivac and its marketing.
 
You will make far more money per hour with the Omnivac then you could with wfp - carpet cleaning - or pressure washing. How do I know? well I supply all of these services.

If you already have a commercial client base adding on gutter clearing services is a doddle, but even if you dont, selling the Omnivac over the alternatives is a complete no brainer and people will bite your arm off.

I currently have a three month waiting list (hoping to resolve that very soon) and regular gutter cleaning contracts spanning the next 7 years!!!!!

I would like also like to make the comment that if you wan't to see one in action then make the effort. A day off to visit Omnipole is just the beginning to unlocking your potential earnings. Sit at home wishing Omnipole would visit you is just plain silly. If you want to buy a specialised car you would travel, so why not to see a specialised bit of kit that will make you money??? Did your wfp supplier visit you at home before you decided on which pole to buy? I think not  ;)

So in summary its more than worth it   ;)



ronnie paton

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2008, 11:22:55 pm »
Quote
if im going to spend around2-3k i want to see this thing is has good has they say but if your up north they wont travel................a abit of a joke i think

To be totally honest we are very busy building wfp, Steam cleaning and pressure washer van mounts as well as gutter cleaning systems and we carry out several demos for prospective customers every day of the week at our workshops, customers travel from all over the UK and Ireland and very often from European Countries.
If we were to travel all over the Uk which we are often asked to do  then we would need to be selling two guttervac systems a day from demos to cover vehicle, fuel, labour,hotel etc.costs (one sale wouldnt cover the costs) and m,ake a profit and as I am now in my mid 50s I dont want to be doing this, the alternative is we take on a salesman who would then pressurise people to buy which is not a method I would like for my company.
For the first three years making systems we used to travel all over  to carry out demos, but often we would turn up and be expected to do the whole wfp job, in one case we cleaned a masive residential care home  in the North East  near the Scottish borders- we  didnt hear any thing for six months when we were asked if we could come and do a demo again at the same residential care home - so that was the end of us traveling.

Be fair would you travel several hundred miles each way to provide a window cleaning demo and quote even if the job was worth a thousand pounds

Some fair comments but you your self promised to get it sorted on another post on here which was only about 4 weeks ago so why the big change of heart?? i wouldnt promise something ic ouldnt keep ....not good business.

I would say if you did a demo for 4 or 5 would it be worth it............ like in all businesses its word of mouth if you come up did a demo and sold a couple when we were uding them we would say were got them from and hey presto that leads to more sales.

The very least you could do is ask some one you have sold one to locally to let us see it in action for say a small return.

The answer to your questiom is if the job was worth a couple of K i would do the quote and sub it out not say one thing and do another!!

Back to you..........................

Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2008, 11:37:22 pm »
\Glyn if you want me to demo these units call me on 07788 732 789 and I will have a chat with you

cherubs cleaning

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2008, 08:08:52 pm »
I currently have a three month waiting list (hoping to resolve that very soon) and regular gutter cleaning contracts spanning the next 7 years!!!!!


kevin


how many staff do u have?


jerry

Kevin R

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2008, 08:59:37 pm »
At the moment I have no staff on the books- however I have four sub-contractors I use and a very regular basis. I am looking to employ very soon to cut my costs - but I am still working my way through the costs etc of having permanent staff.

cherubs cleaning

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Re: is it worth purchasing a gutter vacuum?
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2008, 09:03:49 pm »
kevin

where r u based?


Jerry