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ianharper

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2008, 08:58:26 am »
Thanks Chris

You see mike it can be done. ask Chris how much of his work comes from the Internet each month? and you will see the it pays. the longer you leave it the more money you lose.

It will not happen over night and you get out what you put in. but i spend my time and not my money on the Internet instead of other media that you have to spend money with no proven results like the yellow pages.

your a salesman you know its all about numbers well with the Internet you get all the numbers you like. like my synonymic net has grow so has the hits on my site.

there is no one thing that you can do to make it happen its about the many things. if your happy with the level of income then its harder to take on new stuff but if not then the motivation is higher to learn.

those photos are a massive asset to you. if you have as many as you say then all this will be a lot easier for you as they give you the subjects to talk about.

I have just printed off the keywords that prospects used to find one of my sites this month and there are 161 keyword phrases that's a lot of different problems that they need answers to. so you can see how big the synonymic net is.

one area that i have been getting into on my sites is pet accidents and it's reflected in this list. its a massive area. dogs poo and people don't like cleaning it up. i say that i have earned about £400 this month from this one area. now if you look at other areas like stains, wine etc and you can see how the numbers stack up over the month. but you have to have these words on your site in the volumes that is need to get the positions.

Why spend money on PPC when you can get the same thing for free? if you spend the time writing about the subjects. its the easy way. people value their time more than their money. now if you look at the comments on here about the slow down the answer is to make more with less.

i could quote numbers but i know how they are viewed on here so i will not. but my ROI is the best its ever been on any marketing. and that's the bottom line in business.

Respect

ian harper

Mike Halliday

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2008, 10:12:18 am »
I'm starting think I'm talking to myself ::) Ian please read what I'm saying, and stop trying to fit what I'm saying into what you want to lecture us all on.

the fact that Chris only did 6000 mls is totally irrelevant and proves no point what so ever. I agree Chris does well out of the internet and perhaps he only did 6000 mls because he lives in the most populated area of the UK,  he has a massive potential amount of customers within a very small area geographical area,  Neil probably does well because of the same reason.
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2008, 10:26:58 am »
Thought the population was high everywhere but agreed that more dense in some areas ........... i now turn away new jobs from NW London as takes too long to get there but still maintain the ones i have in that area  ;D

Firmly feel that for the cost of about £40 a year, a basic web page is a must for any business ............. i know loads that have visited my site then booked a job without much persuading ........... they said that pressure selling puts them off phoning some people but website gave them a feel of the quality and  type of work i would do and the type of person i was  ::)

Doug Holloway

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2008, 10:52:42 am »
Hi Guys

I probably have more sites than any other UK CC, over 100.

An upholstery site I set up 3 months ago brought in a 6500 Pound job yesterday and I have also had another excellent 4000+ job in the last few months from a dry site.

The best thing is that you can communicate what you want, target the markets you like and most of all bypass the  large office cleaners etc who used to tie up most of the larger commercial.

I sell from loads of different angles, green, dry, leather, area etc all of which bring their rewards.

If you want to target a tiny geographical area then leaflets is the best way to go but if you want to broaden your horizons then internet is the way to go.

It has transformed my business from a local, comfortable business into a much higher profile, profitable and dare I say saleable growing company.

Cheers

Doug

ianharper

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2008, 11:31:39 am »
opps sorry, i keep it shut from now on then :)

Mike Halliday

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2008, 11:56:02 am »
Sorry Ian, I might have been a litte harsh with my last reply :-* :-*
Mike Halliday.  www.henryhalliday.co.uk

Neil Grainger

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2008, 12:22:27 pm »
You can target if you use Keywords Mike, I target all my area's by town name as most Prople I ask whe they call always say they Searched Carpet Cleaning Town.

Steve Barnett (Carpet Care Plus)

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2008, 02:15:16 pm »
Certainly in my neck of the woods a website is a must - it brings in 80% of my enquiries. Maybe it is a geographical thing as I am in a similar area to Chris and Neil.

I look at it as a pension - once it's built and optimised it takes minimal ongoing investment and time to keep it well ranked.

Got to be one of the cheapest and most effective forms of advertising.

Steve

clinton

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2008, 02:18:25 pm »
Maybe its a little dif down south ???

As what doug said there i have not got anywere near all those thousands of pounds of work and get just a little work from my site :(

clinton

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2008, 02:19:26 pm »
You beat me too it steve :)

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2008, 02:28:57 pm »
Just out of interest how accurate are these tools that say how many visit your site gets. One siad I was getting between 300/400 visits pr month yet I'm lucky to get 3/4 calls from the web a week.

I this typical?


Jim_77

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2008, 03:32:45 pm »
This one?

www.deeperclean.co.uk/contact.htm

Looks quite smart!

Nearest competitor is this one www.easikleen.co.uk/ which also looks very tidy.

Robert Watson

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2008, 03:41:16 pm »
Hi Mike, I don`t trust them and many other web tools.
Is that page visits or site visits? Sometimes easy to confuses the two.
Rab
The Kitchen Door Centre

mark_roberts

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2008, 07:02:21 pm »
Doug

Thats interesting you do so well from your sites.  To be honest I dont like there layout and I didnt read all the text so what in your opinion makes them so successful?

Dont take that personally BTW its just not to my liking but your doing something right.

Mark

Doug Holloway

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2008, 12:37:43 pm »
Hi Guys

Because I have bought so many sites a lot are fairly basic and are currently being revamped.

What I have is excellent search rankings, just try carpet cleaning with essex, southend, brentwood,Chelmsford etc or sofa cleaning, leather cleaning, suite cleaning, chair cleaning, leather cleaning products, green carpet cleaning dry carpet cleaning etc.

I also have high rankings for other areas and this is growing.
I decided to build the portfolio first and gradualy increase the quality.

My customers like the honest, low bull approach and comment they picked me because I seemed like a real carpet cleaner.

Don't get too bogged down with prettyness, go for rankings!

Cheers

doug


Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #36 on: October 26, 2008, 12:46:58 pm »
"seemed" .......... little do they know  :o ::) ;D

Keep up the good work  ;)

mark shannon

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Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #37 on: October 26, 2008, 01:29:33 pm »
Mark i initially thought the same, but you do tend to read Doug's sites they get a point across quickly with out to much technical BS.

And he owns many of the best domain names :)

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #38 on: October 26, 2008, 02:00:14 pm »
Yes

Easiklean are always above me, not sure if it makes that much difference.

Both my site and that one are Mr Roberts efforts, which is a testiment to his abilities.

But my site is younger and all other things being equal I guess links are the only thing that may change that.

I'm thinking of adding opt ins and video to get better convrsion rates. Yes I know some buzz words ;D


clinton

Re: website, yes? or no?
« Reply #39 on: October 26, 2008, 03:08:50 pm »
Same here mark.

They are easy to read sites and as mark says easy to read and no going on about the size of the air flow,what make or model the machines are etc