[ccdm]

Wanted Commercial - retail shops CHESTER,WREXHAM,WIRRAL,BIRKENHEAD,WALLASEY 25 miles radius of Chester
ANY Amount small or large .
Thanks Craig
07759 851316
01244 679884

[NWH]

Get in line there`s 50 WC`s in front of you lol.

[ccdm]

Hi ,NWH do you work in these areas.

[WCE]

Wanted Commercial - retail shops CHESTER,WREXHAM,WIRRAL,BIRKENHEAD,WALLASEY 25 miles radius of Chester
ANY Amount small or large .
Thanks Craig
07759 851316
01244 679884

I dont understand the obsession with shopfronts - most of the prices they pay are rubbish. Around where I am theres a guy doing most the shops for £2-£3.00 each. If you allow 10 mins per shop inc moving to the next and so on that means that at £3.00 he is making £18.00 P/H Thats way below what you can make on domestic and way below what you can make on the proper commercial work. I imagine this situation is repeated all over the country and then there are the nationals driving the prices down further so I really cant see the attraction. Anyway thats my take on it and at those prices I certainly wouldn't travel 25 miles to do shops that will drop the profits even further however if thats the type of work you are after then I wish you luck. Those that do shops usually hang on to them and many regard them as their best jobs and treat them as the holy grail of window cleaning. If they want to sell themselves short than thats their choice, Nwh you say that there is 50 WC's in front of them, good I hope between them they get them all. Then while they are doing their under priced work I will be cleaning up on the real money earners, well paid domestic and large commercial jobs (hotels, office blocks etc etc etc). 

[ccdm]

WCE ,Thanks for your interest in me ,I am new on this site BUT NOT NEW TO WINDOW CLEANING .Hey I would not do the smallest shop for less than £ 5.00 ,and just think 20 shops in one road no ladders 5 mins per shop = £ 100 before you are out of bed ,start as early as you like ,getting the money is easy.

[tradman]

smallest shop for less than fiver...you sure? i mean you sure you from this planet?

[ccdm]

TRADMAN , not sure what you mean there LAD ,do you mean that you would not do for less than £ 5.00 like me .how long have you been in business ! On this planet that is .

[WCE]

WCE ,Thanks for your interest in me ,I am new on this site BUT NOT NEW TO WINDOW CLEANING .Hey I would not do the smallest shop for less than £ 5.00 ,and just think 20 shops in one road no ladders 5 mins per shop = £ 100 before you are out of bed ,start as early as you like ,getting the money is easy.

Thats the point though, nowadays you'll be hard pushed to find shops that'll pay that and those shops will be few and far between and I doubt you'll get a run of 20.  There are wc's in every town already that do the shops for less than what you want to charge so if you go into a town and canvass the shops as soon as they  find out your more expensive you will have lost them as with shops it usually comes down to whose the cheapest. And if you do buy the work and the price is lower than you want and you try to put the price up then the shops will find someone else who will do it cheaper - They always do.
Change of subject - Just out of interest whats your story (with w/cing I mean). I notice that you have another post looking for a round, does this mean you don't have a full round or have you come back to the industry?   

[WCE]

smallest shop for less than fiver...you sure? i mean you sure you from this planet?

Tradman, If you don't mind me asking, whats the price range of the shops your selling (ie whats the lowest and highest)?

[ccdm]

WCE,I have more than one full round,and have been self employed since 1983

[tradman]

3 for £3 next to each other done in less than 5 mins is the cheapest the most expensive ones are pubs upto £20 takes less than 15 mins. just completed all my commercial today. 2 men 9 to 5 with a few break n food breaks. over £332 trad!! like i said good work but i have a landrover with a commercial rack n ladder, getting em on off is a pain the arse, brill earner just not my cup of tea

[WCE]

WCE,I have more than one full round,and have been self employed since 1983

Widow cleaning since 1983?

3 for £3 next to each other done in less than 5 mins is the cheapest the most expensive ones are pubs upto £20 takes less than 15 mins. just completed all my commercial today. 2 men 9 to 5 with a few break n food breaks. over £332 trad!! like i said good work but i have a landrover with a commercial rack n ladder, getting em on off is a pain the arse, brill earner just not my cup of tea

Thanks for sharing that I meant just shops though so whats the highest paid shop?
I happen to agree that in general commercial work is good and pubs etc great! It's just the shops I find a bit of a waste of time.

[ccdm]

TRADMAN ,Just looking at your profile ,what area are you from ,as your profile has no info.

[tradman]

i would love to have a days work in a town centre but sadly i don't think that there are many around and if they did come up for sale when someone died i couldn't afford em. my most expensive shop is a tenner, 4 large panes outsides only...but i now have a wagtail so even easier now, if i can get good at using it on office windows then maybe i may keep the work, dunno, but if it sells it sells.

[tradman]

up north y? u wanna kissss meeeee?lol

[ccdm]

Thats what I like about this site everyone is so proffessional

[tradman]

my god you are expecting way too much in life and this site....a run of shops that you can charge more than a fiver (probably wanna pay less than a million aswell) now you want us to be behave like proper businessman...good job you never met jonah / sjm /simon 123...you would of been reeeaaalllly disappointed in us all. lol.

[ccdm]

JUST seen your lot for sale good luck with the sale.
Also about prices when i go to new customers i advise them and get a good price for a good service tradition window cleaning,I guess you have to  be a bit of a salesman . CUSTOMERS WILL PAY FOR A GOOD SERVICE.

[WCE]

JUST seen your lot for sale good luck with the sale.
Also about prices when i go to new customers i advise them and get a good price for a good service tradition window cleaning,I guess you have to  be a bit of a salesman . CUSTOMERS WILL PAY FOR A GOOD SERVICE.

Some customers will but in the shop front world with too many it comes down to price. If this wasn't true then why have the nationals done so well? They charge penuts and usually provide a poor service yet they have many chains tied to them.

[ccdm]

They are doing all the cleaning for the hole shop on contract ,ie intial,mitie etc,
and as you say doing a very bad job a lot with WFP WHEN IT IS QUICKER and better Trad.
But this is not all shops mainly banks ,building soc's