[Craig - CW Window Cleaning]

so far so good, I have been out of window cleaning for sometime got back into it this year always used to trad methods before. but I thought I'd give wfp a go only a simple set up two di filters as water here is only 75tds, but I find its great but only for the right job I use it on difficult access for ladders but the results have been superb one customer asked me what chemicals i use in the water very surprised when i said its pure water.
So far no spotting or water marks always give a good rinse....

[L.J.Thorpe]

done properly wfp is AT LEAST as good as trad for customer
much better for window cleaner
faster
safer
some exceptions but for most run of the mill modern housing (built within last 30 yrs) with upvc windows
you cannot beat it 

[Oakley Windows]

quit yo jibber jabber fool

 

[AuRavelling79]

Shops are a waste of time WFP unless there high n huge,it`s quicker to blade them and traffic film plays havoc with WFP at the best of times.WFPoleing shops is just plain lazy,like i say less hassel with the good old blade.

Blimey, someone who agrees with me about that.

I agree with you Roger. (Unless the windows are high and huge)

I don't do shops - but I have one commercial customer in Avonmouth whose windows are old critall metal framed, painted windows. They are all ground floor and I can just reach the tops from the ground but use a cut down 6ft ladder and do them trad.

If I did shops I would also worry about mess/slipping/ice after I had gone and for this reason i usually blade custies front doors in winter.

[Sir Squeaky]

If I did shops I would also worry about mess/slipping/ice after I had gone and for this reason i usually blade custies front doors in winter.

I always squeegee doors, unless they're not in.
It's just polite.
I had someone (quite fairly) complain about stepping out into a puddle, and I've never done it since.

[kris martin]

i have been wfp for about 4 months now, i have well over 1000 custys and i havnt lost one, some of my jobs are amazing and some leave spotted runs...it is hard to get the knack but you have too have confidence in it... i think it can take a lot of cleans to get every job on every house good (despite people saying one good clean and its all good) but this is where customer relations comes in to play, be nice tell them things will improve if you leave messes, and sell the product... that is what i have done and not yet lost a single customer touch wood...  also the amount of trad window cleaners in my area that have been sacked and i have got there work (not since i have ben wfp) because there crap... what im saying is there is good and bad WC in both methods..

[[GQC] Tim]

Shops are a waste of time WFP unless there high n huge,it`s quicker to blade them and traffic film plays havoc with WFP at the best of times.WFPoleing shops is just plain lazy,like i say less hassel with the good old blade.

Blimey, someone who agrees with me about that.

I agree too, especially double handed squeegeeing will be very fast. Maybe if you had a 20' brush with 4 jets in it......lol

[JSMC]

well hopefully in next few weeks i'll be set up and use it on my own house and friends etc to ge tthe knack of it. It just seems i am  going to be running into trouble befor ei even start due to other Wc's

[LWC]

jsmc

stop going on about "horror stories"

do a good job, be friendly with your customers, take your time and do it properly, ive picked up loads of work where theyve said "your not going to use that are you" and i say yes and theyre like "cause it rubbish" and i say look ill do your house and if your not happy call me, never hear anything, theres doing it properly and theres splishing and splashing

now shut up and stop being a girl and get on with it

[SherwoodCleaningSe]

A very very small minority of customers will not take to wfp come what may, but most will go on the results.

The problem with converting to wfp is that most wfp retailers will tell you that you can go up to twice as fast as trad, maybe possible if you've only been cleaning windows for a year trad but if your a long standing trad cleaner then to go twice as fast is gonna be real hard.  To make it worse converting windows to wfp would normally take up to twice as long as trad, but now the new inexperienced wfper is going to try to do the job in about a 1/4 of the time he should as he thinks he should be finishing by lunch time.  The results are normally a horror story.

If your that worried stay on a ladder, however if you make the change, do every window twice (frames and glass and then just glass).  Maybe convert the ups to wfp first and leave the downs trad for a while until the custys get used to it.  Tell every customer to call you asap if the windows come up bad and that you will redo them.  Before long all your custys will be amazed at how good this new invention is.

As regards shops and wfp.  I personally wouldn't but I once worked with a guy in Grantham who does most of the shops in the town wfp, even double handed wouldn't beat the speed he went and he did a good job. He had static hose reels though which makes a big difference.  He did loose one job from wfp though.

Hope it goes well.  Simon.