[L.J.Thorpe]

i have only just read these posts
makes me wonder if george is really the be all and end all
matt b
matt
ian ww
nwh
all people who seem to concur with my opinion on most things
all seem to work in a similar way to me
i might do the free trial and see how i get on
from what i have read tho it dont seem to do anything i cant do already

[L.J.Thorpe]

I haven’t bothered to use the pda version (yet) and sometimes I go to work without any kind of list as I can remember what I have to do that day.

George comes into its own when you are using the full version on your computer.

So I utilise memory, pen & paper and software. Like wise you shouldn’t inform others not to use software if you are not using it yourself!

It can make you more money if fully utilised, but you wouldn’t know because you don’t use it.

Been using the software since I started window cleaning again, pen & paper before that.

sometimes you can remember what to do :
this is why i DONT need george
everyone is different
i do my records retrospective
day at a time
i "wing" it
i know what i expect to do next WEEK without a list
i know how much i am owed without a list
i bank all money earned and use same account to pay for anything related to business
my accounts write themselves
i will still give it a go tho
just to see

[L.J.Thorpe]

ewan
if its not needed its not an "improvement"

[Oakley Windows]

I don’t know why people get upset talking about possible improvements to there business. I’m sure a lot of you are very well established in your business and maybe that’s why your resist any kind or to big a change.

I doubt its quite as simple as that.

You cant tell me you immediately feel a warmth, affinity and tenderness towards an upstart trying to teach his Grandmother how to suck eggs ?

  

[L.J.Thorpe]

In that case window cleaners never use to use a vehicle that still applies today!

 

used to use

[L.J.Thorpe]

i need wfp to comply with h&s on some jobs
i need a vehicle because i cant get a 650ltr tank on a pushbike
i dont NEED a computer programme to run my round

[L.J.Thorpe]

ewan its not that i think you dont know anything
its that YOU seem to think you know EVERYTHING

[NWH]

Keep it real lol.

[Oakley Windows]

ewan its not that i think you dont know anything
its that YOU seem to think you know EVERYTHING

Yes, that is it.

[Oakley Windows]

Fair comment, it wont be the first time I have had that said to me. I do need to be reminded.

Ewan are you a slow learner? I dont mean that insultingly, more like, you're highly opinionated and wont change that opinion. Regardless. Despite what others with more experience say. Adamant. Inflexible. Stubborn. Unyielding.

[Gilbert Sprous]

Wow what a string of posts and interesting too.  It seem to me if someone can articulate exactly why they dont need something then they probably dont need it.  If they just say they dont need it without being able to articulate why, then they are not bothered and may miss out on an opportunity. 

I usually whatch other strings, but I might just watch you ww guys, this was something.

Cheers

[merson]

Welcome Gilbert, another slow learner, you know what they say slow and steady wins the race.

 

Are you best friend with toilet clean Ewan ?

[dai]

I guess I am in the same position as many sole traders on this forum.
I am a sole trader because I couldn't afford to take some one on full time.
Good luck to all you guys that consistently earn £200 a day, and I really mean that.
some of us either because we have placed limitations on ourselves, have no great ambition, or we can't command high enough prices on our rounds will not achieve this.
I am happy to work for £20 an hour but my average is nearer £15, and £15 an hour is what I reckon a guy who worked for me would have to earn for me to break even, so it's not worth the hassle of employing.
I didn't come into window cleaning to create an empire, I came into it to replace a lost job in engineering,
I achieved that within the first year. I refuse to feel inferior to any one else on here because I don't earn as much as them, I owe no one a penny, and have just spent the last month with my family on the beach in Bali.
As a self employed window cleaner you are entitled to earn as much or as little as you need, if your happy your happy. End of story.

[seandyer2003]

nothing wrong with £15 an hour if you are averaging 8 hrs a day 5 days a week, if its close to home and overheads are low then its mostly profit! some lads i know go on about £30-50 an hour but they only have 3 hrs and go home! whats the point??  and they drive almost an hour to do it.might as well do average work for 8 hours.

better to be out 30 hrs a week,for 15-25 which most window cleaners will average over the year, due to illness, rain etc.

i average around 20-25 but only have about 3 days a week , but i do 8 hours a day, and im happy doing that. In the past ive given work up that is £15 a hr, but when i look back if id of kept it id be better off financially, but i just got above myself and thought im not working for 15 an hour, but its 3x minimum wage, and is still 120 for days work., and i know that in alot of areas you cant get any more than that, i was just happy to cut my losses and look for better paying work. But nowt wrong with it if you got it and its close to home.

[seandyer2003]

yeah your right there, the advantage with a wage from an employer is its all yours, whereas we pay out on marketing, diesel, vans, insurances, and if you employ the list is endless, i am currently working at getting 4 days at £200 a week, will be happy with that, i know alot are saying 200 isnt possible everyday etc, but i can do it on all of my work 3 days a week at present, just a case of doing 7-8 hours at a reasonable pace, and if i only have 4 days a week i can catch up for days off, rain etc, plus at present i am basing my earnings on trad but picking up speed now changed to wfp so 200+ should be possible, or perhaps just easier days All work at moment i am pricing up to 30 an hr plus, but i am in an area where its possible, i have worked rounds where to get 20 an hr was an achievement but it would of taken years of price rises to get more, my bro in law always says how do you manage 200 as he does about 130, but hes doing 3.50 4.00 jobs, but they are on his doorstep and no wfp to run, whereas im travelling about 25 mile round trip and runnin pole, but im still coming out better off in the long run...

[Gilbert Sprous]

Welcome Gilbert, another slow learner, you know what they say slow and steady wins the race.