[julianbiggs]

Right i'm gonna have abit of a moan.... not directed at anyone particularly.... I put on a thread on here recently basically saying that we've got loads of work and need a hand ( there's two of us work together) to get ourselves back up to date after bad weather and hols. Was looking for someone to help us out for around 10 days or so. So i put a thread up asking for people to email me their daily rate of pay for 9 hours work.  The emails ive received are:

£200 per day
£220 per day
£300 per day
£320 per day


I'm not being funny. Are these people having a laugh!!

Why are they asking for so much when they clearly need more work, hence their reply to me.

For us to pay those figures we'd need to turnover a minimum of £620 a day just to earn £10 more than the person helping us.

I must also add...We're not part of the £5 brigade. We have very good paying work and live in an afluent area. Our average house price is £18.30 so we know how to earn good money. But as a two man team we can't get anywhere near £620 per day.

There...rant finished.....

[NWH]

A 2 man team might not but 1 in each van would do it no problem.

[Steve CM]

i agree NWH

[Clive McDonald]

I suppose they mean't using their own van, water, poles etc. And nine hours is a bit of a long day, after six hours i'm struggling.

[julianbiggs]

I understand that. Long term that is something we are definitely going to do. Some of my previous threads ask questions about expanding. But the point is these are ridiculous expectations of a daily rate.

[NWH]

I understand that. Long term that is something we are definitely going to do. Some of my previous threads ask questions about expanding. But the point is these are ridiculous expectations of a daily rate.

I can understand you saying that about someone starting out but if you asked an established WC for help meaning he would be putting off his own work it`s not un reasonable,why should he earn less than he would on his own work.

[Sir Squeaky]

A 2 man team might not but 1 in each van would do it no problem.

Of course you always do over £300 a day on houses... :

Most people I know do £100-150 a day on domestics.
How can you be doing over double?

[julianbiggs]

Thanks Squeaky someone being realistic. As i said earlier if we were to pay between £200 and £300+ then to make it worth our while we need to turnover £600+ a day.  No sensible person running a business would pay somebody more than they would earn.  

[julianbiggs]

It shouldn't really make any difference. Daily rate is daily rate. I wanted to get an idea of people's expectations first before mentioning anything.

[NWH]

Thanks Squeaky someone being realistic. As i said earlier if we were to pay between £200 and £300+ then to make it worth our while we need to turnover £600+ a day.  No sensible person running a business would pay somebody more than they would earn.  

depends what you mean by being realistic,that might be realistic to him and his round but not me.It makes me LOL when i see people write that certain things are not possible,how the hell does anyone know what is possible for me if you have an average round of domestics built up over years you should be able to do over £200 a day easy.That is not a boastfull egotistical statement it`s a fact and if your not doing that i would seriously look at your business and where it`s taking you.

[jaykie]

Im new and have a day that i do where i get £220 from 9 till 3

Chris

[Paul Coleman]

Thanks Squeaky someone being realistic. As i said earlier if we were to pay between £200 and £300+ then to make it worth our while we need to turnover £600+ a day.  No sensible person running a business would pay somebody more than they would earn.  

If I was short of work and the alternative was earning nothing, I think £20 an hour is not  unreasonable.  That involves using my own water, poles, vehicle etc.  You would get a decent return from me for that as well provided the work was priced alright.  I expect more from my own work of course but appreciate that you would need a fair margin.  The alternative, of course, would be to pay on a percentage basis to ensure you weren't out of pocket.  As far as I'm concerned it's academic anyway as I'm 200 miles from you.  As I live in the southeast, it may be that my expectations are a bit higher too as there do seem to be regional variations in rates.

[prestigeclean]

nwh is working in the same area as me and what he says is spot on , regards alan

[matt]

£200 per day
£220 per day
£300 per day
£320 per day

the 200 quid a dayers should get it together, if your not earning 500 quid a day, you must be doing something seriously wrong

[Paul Coleman]

I agree it’s about continually building your business until you have reached maximum earnings for yourself. I think people get stuck with customers they should have replaced a long time ago.

Getting stuck is where I'm at at the moment.  I've quite a bit of good work and some excellent work but I have fallen into the trap of not increasing prices enough down the years on a fair bit of the OKish work.

[LSB]

it would seem to me that if you have the time off to do extra days work for someone else ,
then you have some days off or gaps in your round , that means you should be realistic in an extra day(s) wages ,
however 9 / 10 hours a day is probably too much !

[ftp]

Oh come on Matt, some days i only earn £450 i can't possibly earn £500 every day all week - sometimes it rains.

[NWH]

And if Matt can`t do it nobody can.

[Paul Coleman]

it would seem to me that if you have the time off to do extra days work for someone else ,
then you have some days off or gaps in your round , that means you should be realistic in an extra day(s) wages ,
however 9 / 10 hours a day is probably too much !

Of course, in the mid to long term it is more viable seeking more work for your own business.  However, if there is a need to earn the money urgently in the here and now, then subbing work like that needs to be done with a thought for the contractor's margin.

[prestigeclean]

why don,t some of you raise your expectations , this is a money making machine regards alan