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jeff1

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Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« on: August 14, 2008, 11:04:28 am »
Nice one Alex, I like the new scoop I just spotted on your web-site.

For anyone who needs to clean out guttering from the ground using your own pole, have a look on Alex's site for the new gutter scoop.

www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/New_Contact_Details.html

ftp

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 02:27:26 pm »
Just need Alex to put a vidio up showing it in action before i part with any more money.
Looks nice and rigid.

TVCS

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 04:18:46 pm »
Seems quite exspensive to me. 
Veni, vidi, vino, splatus.

 (I came, I saw, I drank, I fell over...)

steven ainger

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 04:21:59 pm »
how do reach the bottom of a half round gutter with a flat surface, wouldnt it of been better to have a threaded end so differant attachments could be added to suit the type of guttering.

ftp

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 04:43:13 pm »
That's what i had in mind, a scoop, a hook, a spike.

Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 05:02:11 pm »
Knowing Alex he will be aready working on this, as this IMO just would not be up to the jobs we do as there are many different types of gutter.

Alex could you design a gutter vac or are you ?  :-\

ftp

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2008, 05:17:25 pm »
Already been done, most of the parts are on Gardiners site.

Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2008, 05:21:05 pm »
Already been done, most of the parts are on Gardiners site.
I meant as a package

jeff1

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2008, 05:28:50 pm »
Seems quite exspensive to me. 
How much is your safety worth??????

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2008, 05:44:34 pm »
The reason why we have brought this gutter scoop out is to provide a one-shot tool that will clear debris and growth from gutters without the need for a ladder.  I realize that it won't provide a full wipe down clean and it doesn't exactly fit each shaped gutter.  It will however fit in the vast majority of gutters and provide the ability to dig out any areas that need it.  It has been designed for the average window cleaner (like me basically!) who doesn't do many gutters but when they are asked, usually has to get their ladders out or hire a cherry picker.  This tool may well save a lot of the above hassle, it can be fitted in minutes and will clear the majority of muck.  It won't suit everyone, it won't provide quite as good a clean as a gutter vac but it's also a lot lighter and cheaper. 

I understand the idea of having various attachments screw on but the cost for developing a tool like this for a very small market is just not viable.  As it is, with this first trial batch once the tooling costs, CNC costs, annealing costs, etc have been factored in, there is no profit in selling this first batch at all but I wanted one for a few jobs and I thought a few other people might find them useful.  :)

jeff1

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2008, 05:49:49 pm »
If you own a gutter vac or a pressure Lance, this tool (or a tool like it) will eventually be needed when you turn up to a Job and find if full of weeds, that the vac or even the pressure lance wont shift.

ftp

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2008, 05:59:33 pm »
The reason why we have brought this gutter scoop out is to provide a one-shot tool that will clear debris and growth from gutters without the need for a ladder.  I realize that it won't provide a full wipe down clean and it doesn't exactly fit each shaped gutter.  It will however fit in the vast majority of gutters and provide the ability to dig out any areas that need it.  It has been designed for the average window cleaner (like me basically!) who doesn't do many gutters but when they are asked, usually has to get their ladders out or hire a cherry picker.  This tool may well save a lot of the above hassle, it can be fitted in minutes and will clear the majority of muck.  It won't suit everyone, it won't provide quite as good a clean as a gutter vac but it's also a lot lighter and cheaper. 

I understand the idea of having various attachments screw on but the cost for developing a tool like this for a very small market is just not viable.  As it is, with this first trial batch once the tooling costs, CNC costs, annealing costs, etc have been factored in, there is no profit in selling this first batch at all but I wanted one for a few jobs and I thought a few other people might find them useful.  :)

Good for you Alex, i think it's a great idea. Many customers just want the odd growth cleared anyway and wouldn't be prepared to pay for a full gutter clean and this might offer the customer a cheap alternative to clear that odd blockage. Should pay for itself very quickly too if it can do the job.

Glyn H

Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2008, 05:59:55 pm »
Hi Alex
(This is not a negative post - so please other readers do not read negative points into it.)

You should inform users to wear hard hats, and safety specs when using your scoop.
Debris hooked from gutters can and will fall onto to the operator below.
Broken roof tiles,glass, stones and clumps of mud could maim and injure the operator.
At the very least even particles of soil falling into the operators eyes will be uncomfortable.

clean

Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2008, 06:02:31 pm »
Hi Alex
This is not a negative post - so please other readers do not read negative points into it.

You should inform users to wear hard hats, and safety specs when using your scoop.
Debris hooked from gutters can and will fall onto to the operator below.
Broken roof tiles,glass, stones and clumps of mud could maim and injure the operator.
At the vey least even particles of soil falling into the operators eyes will be uncomfortable.

Very good advise there Glyn and a nice way of putting it across to Alex  ;)

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2008, 06:09:28 pm »
Hi Alex
(This is not a negative post - so please other readers do not read negative points into it.)

You should inform users to wear hard hats, and safety specs when using your scoop.
Debris hooked from gutters can and will fall onto to the operator below.
Broken roof tiles,glass, stones and clumps of mud could maim and injure the operator.
At the very least even particles of soil falling into the operators eyes will be uncomfortable.

Good point Glyn. I always carry these items in my vehicle, they should be standard PPE for this type of work.

jeff1

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2008, 06:23:29 pm »
Good advice Glyn, many of the gutters I do even contain sandy like material, Not very nice when you get it in your eye's.

ftp

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2008, 06:24:41 pm »
Alex, how does it work, do you push it or pull it or try and lift the debris out?

Alex Gardiner

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2008, 06:26:09 pm »
Alex, how does it work, do you push it or pull it or try and lift the debris out?

It's angled so that you pull it towards you, once you've hooked it inside the gutter.  I will do a video soon to show how it works.

jeff1

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2008, 06:35:29 pm »
This is my Mk1 home made one, I'm now on Mk3 I had to make a lot of improvements to get it right, I wish alex's gutter scoop was out when I needed one quickly, its a lot more robust than the one I made and well worth the money he's asking.





You can see it removing some large clumps, safely from the ground, you will also get these results using Alex's gutter scoop only Alex's will stay attached to your pole, Mine came detached from my pole once, Alex has over come this problem by the ability of screwing it to your pole. (I did get mine back though Lol)

JSMC

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Re: Gardiners New Gutter Scoop
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2008, 06:45:58 pm »
so basically you just attach this to the poles and then push it along the gutter to the end or something ?